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Solar Sailing about to start
http://www.planetary.org/news/2004/s..._set_1109.html
Arthur C. Clarke published a short story about it in 1960s called "The Wind from the Sun." Perhaps it will actually work. -- "j" ganz @@ www.sailnow.com |
That reminds me. Remember that idiot, over in England I think, who
claimed he could use a windmill contraption aboard his boat to power the boat straight into the wind using only the power of the wind? Bwaahahhahahahahahhahhahha. That solar sail will work but only downwind or crosswind. It will never be able to go upwind. It is against the known laws of physics for a sailboat to sail directly into the wind and it's the same for solar sails. CN CN "JG" wrote in message ... http://www.planetary.org/news/2004/s..._set_1109.html Arthur C. Clarke published a short story about it in 1960s called "The Wind from the Sun." Perhaps it will actually work. -- "j" ganz @@ www.sailnow.com |
Cripes... how dumb are you anyway?
Wind in space???? It's a Solar Sail!!!! Sheesh! CM "Capt. Neal®" wrote in message ... That reminds me. Remember that idiot, over in England I think, who claimed he could use a windmill contraption aboard his boat to power the boat straight into the wind using only the power of the wind? Bwaahahhahahahahahhahhahha. That solar sail will work but only downwind or crosswind. It will never be able to go upwind. It is against the known laws of physics for a sailboat to sail directly into the wind and it's the same for solar sails. CN CN "JG" wrote in message ... http://www.planetary.org/news/2004/s..._set_1109.html Arthur C. Clarke published a short story about it in 1960s called "The Wind from the Sun." Perhaps it will actually work. -- "j" ganz @@ www.sailnow.com |
And, it uses the solar wind to sail. We know you're dumb.
-- "j" ganz @@ www.sailnow.com "Capt. Mooron" wrote in message news:gYbNd.1088$K54.979@edtnps84... Cripes... how dumb are you anyway? Wind in space???? It's a Solar Sail!!!! Sheesh! CM "Capt. Neal®" wrote in message ... That reminds me. Remember that idiot, over in England I think, who claimed he could use a windmill contraption aboard his boat to power the boat straight into the wind using only the power of the wind? Bwaahahhahahahahahhahhahha. That solar sail will work but only downwind or crosswind. It will never be able to go upwind. It is against the known laws of physics for a sailboat to sail directly into the wind and it's the same for solar sails. CN CN "JG" wrote in message ... http://www.planetary.org/news/2004/s..._set_1109.html Arthur C. Clarke published a short story about it in 1960s called "The Wind from the Sun." Perhaps it will actually work. -- "j" ganz @@ www.sailnow.com |
"JG" wrote in message ... And, it uses the solar wind to sail. We know you're dumb. Solar Wind??? Bwahahahahahahahahaahaaaaa!! CM |
OzOne wrote in message Solar wind Mooron....or should I drop an 'o' Oh here we go... now Ozone is going to tell me about the space breezes and how to reef the space sails... Bwahahahahahahahahaaaa!! Heh Ozone.... do you think the planetary orbit might be affected by a really strong burst of "space wind".... Bwahahahahahahaaaaa!! Solar Wind.... Bwahahahahahahahaaaaaa!!! Next you'll be claiming Lunar Rain? CM |
OzOne wrote in message Oh dear, poor Moron, living in the jungle, living in the dark ages. Sheesh Ozone... you're the one claiming a Solar Wind!!!! Solar Wind... Bwahahahahahahahaaaa Tell me Ozone... do you think the Solar Sails would withstand a really good Solar Gale?? Bwahahahahahahhaaaaa CM |
Yeah, I guess NASA doesn't know what it's talking about....
http://science.msfc.nasa.gov/ssl/pad/solar/sun_wind.htm -- "j" ganz @@ www.sailnow.com "Capt. Mooron" wrote in message news:jycNd.1209$K54.482@edtnps84... "JG" wrote in message ... And, it uses the solar wind to sail. We know you're dumb. Solar Wind??? Bwahahahahahahahahaahaaaaa!! CM |
Everyone else has...
-- "j" ganz @@ www.sailnow.com OzOne wrote in message ... On Sat, 05 Feb 2005 22:41:16 GMT, "Capt. Mooron" scribbled thusly: Cripes... how dumb are you anyway? Wind in space???? It's a Solar Sail!!!! Sheesh! CM Solar wind Mooron....or should I drop an 'o' Oz1...of the 3 twins. I welcome you to crackerbox palace,We've been expecting you. |
What a fool. The solar wind absolutely affects the orbit. It doesn't have to
be "really strong." -- "j" ganz @@ www.sailnow.com "Capt. Mooron" wrote in message news:sGcNd.1213$K54.365@edtnps84... OzOne wrote in message Solar wind Mooron....or should I drop an 'o' Oh here we go... now Ozone is going to tell me about the space breezes and how to reef the space sails... Bwahahahahahahahahaaaa!! Heh Ozone.... do you think the planetary orbit might be affected by a really strong burst of "space wind".... Bwahahahahahahaaaaa!! Solar Wind.... Bwahahahahahahahaaaaaa!!! Next you'll be claiming Lunar Rain? CM |
"JG" wrote in message ... Yeah, I guess NASA doesn't know what it's talking about.... Oh I'm certain they do.... do you think they have the Solar Wind set to a Beaufort Scale yet? Heh Jon... maybe they can "hear" the solar wind when it's blowin' hard! The Solar Wind on Mercury must be wicked Eh? Bwahahahahahahahaaaaa...... CM |
"JG" wrote in message ... What a fool. The solar wind absolutely affects the orbit. It doesn't have to be "really strong." Heh Jon... maybe it's the "Solar Wind" blowing us further out of orbit that's causing global warming.... I can hear the Van Allen Belts flapping right now..... Wooooooooooo it sounds like a force 8 Solar Wind!!! Bwahahahahahahahahaaaa CM |
"JG" wrote in message ... Everyone else has... I can't hear you over the scream of the Solar Wind Ganz..... Bwahahahahahahahahaaa CM |
Capt. Mooron wrote:
"JG" wrote in message ... Yeah, I guess NASA doesn't know what it's talking about.... Oh I'm certain they do.... do you think they have the Solar Wind set to a Beaufort Scale yet? Heh Jon... maybe they can "hear" the solar wind when it's blowin' hard! The Solar Wind on Mercury must be wicked Eh? Bwahahahahahahahaaaaa...... CM I'm guessing you don't check out the Space Weather every day. http://www.sec.noaa.gov/SWN/index.html |
"Jeff Morris" wrote in message I'm guessing you don't check out the Space Weather every day. http://www.sec.noaa.gov/SWN/index.html No Jeff I admit I don't..... but let's face it... I believe the term "wind" when they say solar wind is a bit of a misnomer. My understanding is that it's not a wind and the solar sails don't catch a breeze. Maybe you can explain it for us Jeff...... CM |
Maybe you need to read a decent science book. You certainly don't have much
in the way of education. -- "j" ganz @@ www.sailnow.com "Capt. Mooron" wrote in message news:LkdNd.1241$K54.164@edtnps84... "JG" wrote in message ... What a fool. The solar wind absolutely affects the orbit. It doesn't have to be "really strong." Heh Jon... maybe it's the "Solar Wind" blowing us further out of orbit that's causing global warming.... I can hear the Van Allen Belts flapping right now..... Wooooooooooo it sounds like a force 8 Solar Wind!!! Bwahahahahahahahahaaaa CM |
Because all you pass is hot air... I understand.
-- "j" ganz @@ www.sailnow.com "Capt. Mooron" wrote in message news:cmdNd.1251$K54.963@edtnps84... "JG" wrote in message ... Everyone else has... I can't hear you over the scream of the Solar Wind Ganz..... Bwahahahahahahahahaaa CM |
"JG" wrote in message ... No matter how it works, it's called Solar Wind, which you claimed was bogus. In fact, you're bogus. It seems like it's just blowin' up a storm around Uranus!! Ganz thinks the Sun farts ...and the wind blows around the solar system.!! Ganz thinks the "Solar Wind" causes dust storms on the moon!! CM |
"JG" wrote in message ... Maybe you need to read a decent science book. You certainly don't have much in the way of education. Can you recommend one... I'm looking for something in Advanced Physics for my niece... and any book you may have read and understood will no doubt be suitable for a 6 year old! BTW - since you claim to be a science whiz.... can you explain a photon? CM |
"JG" wrote in message Because all you pass is hot air... I understand. Men are from Mars , Women are from Venus... but Ganz is from Uranus!! Bwahahahahahahahaaaaa CM |
wrote in message Just substitute a ZERO Aw shut yer Yap Bill... can't you see I'm tormenting Ganz? Now **** off... go on... Git!!!.... and don't bother me until you find some new material! Frickin' little clingin', needy remoras on this reef are really startin' to try my patience! CM |
OzOne wrote in message Oh oh here we go. Moron wants you to rewrite the terms used to suit his limited understanding. Good Luck. Aye Matey.. you'd best batten down the hatches.. I just seen me a sunspot and you know that only means one thing..... we got a fresh Solar Wind comin' right towards us... lets reef those Solar Sails... I'll plot us a course past the Asteroid belt!! Bwahahahahahahahaaa Yeah Ozone.... if it wasn't for the Van Allen belts holding the planet to the orbital cycle... we'd be blown clear past Uranus because of those damned Solar Winds. CM |
That's what he gets only reading the back of bourbon bottles . . .
"JG" wrote in message ... Maybe you need to read a decent science book. You certainly don't have much in the way of education. -- "j" ganz @@ www.sailnow.com "Capt. Mooron" wrote in message news:LkdNd.1241$K54.164@edtnps84... "JG" wrote in message ... What a fool. The solar wind absolutely affects the orbit. It doesn't have to be "really strong." Heh Jon... maybe it's the "Solar Wind" blowing us further out of orbit that's causing global warming.... I can hear the Van Allen Belts flapping right now..... Wooooooooooo it sounds like a force 8 Solar Wind!!! Bwahahahahahahahahaaaa CM |
Be a man. Admit your foolish error. Further Ganz bashing only demonstrates
your frustration - not your manliness. CN "Capt. Mooron" wrote in message news:UefNd.14392$tU6.9630@edtnps91... "JG" wrote in message Because all you pass is hot air... I understand. Men are from Mars , Women are from Venus... but Ganz is from Uranus!! Bwahahahahahahahaaaaa CM |
"Capt. Mooron" wrote in message
news:r6fNd.14390$tU6.3265@edtnps91... "JG" wrote in message ... No matter how it works, it's called Solar Wind, which you claimed was bogus. In fact, you're bogus. It seems like it's just blowin' up a storm around Uranus!! ewwwww..... |
Mooron, why are you intrigued by uranus?
-- "j" ganz @@ www.sailnow.com "Capt. Mooron" wrote in message news:uJfNd.14399$tU6.5624@edtnps91... OzOne wrote in message Oh oh here we go. Moron wants you to rewrite the terms used to suit his limited understanding. Good Luck. Aye Matey.. you'd best batten down the hatches.. I just seen me a sunspot and you know that only means one thing..... we got a fresh Solar Wind comin' right towards us... lets reef those Solar Sails... I'll plot us a course past the Asteroid belt!! Bwahahahahahahahaaa Yeah Ozone.... if it wasn't for the Van Allen belts holding the planet to the orbital cycle... we'd be blown clear past Uranus because of those damned Solar Winds. CM |
A photon? Nope. And their can any scientist who's being honest.
Good, fun science books... how about "How to Clone the Perfect Blonde" or "Moonrush". -- "j" ganz @@ www.sailnow.com "Capt. Mooron" wrote in message news:SafNd.14391$tU6.1488@edtnps91... "JG" wrote in message ... Maybe you need to read a decent science book. You certainly don't have much in the way of education. Can you recommend one... I'm looking for something in Advanced Physics for my niece... and any book you may have read and understood will no doubt be suitable for a 6 year old! BTW - since you claim to be a science whiz.... can you explain a photon? CM |
I think you might want to rethink your continuing comments like this. You're
really looking stupid. -- "j" ganz @@ www.sailnow.com "Capt. Mooron" wrote in message news:UefNd.14392$tU6.9630@edtnps91... "JG" wrote in message Because all you pass is hot air... I understand. Men are from Mars , Women are from Venus... but Ganz is from Uranus!! Bwahahahahahahahaaaaa CM |
Still yappin I see... you LOST. Bwahahahaaaa
-- "j" ganz @@ www.sailnow.com "Capt. Mooron" wrote in message news:nkfNd.14394$tU6.4655@edtnps91... wrote in message Just substitute a ZERO Aw shut yer Yap Bill... can't you see I'm tormenting Ganz? Now **** off... go on... Git!!!.... and don't bother me until you find some new material! Frickin' little clingin', needy remoras on this reef are really startin' to try my patience! CM |
Poor Mooron, there is no greater humiliation than to lose to Jonathan! CN "JG" wrote in message ... Still yappin I see... you LOST. Bwahahahaaaa -- "j" ganz @@ www.sailnow.com "Capt. Mooron" wrote in message news:nkfNd.14394$tU6.4655@edtnps91... wrote in message Just substitute a ZERO Aw shut yer Yap Bill... can't you see I'm tormenting Ganz? Now **** off... go on... Git!!!.... and don't bother me until you find some new material! Frickin' little clingin', needy remoras on this reef are really startin' to try my patience! CM |
"Capt. Neal®" wrote in message ... I hate to admit it but Jonathan is right and Mooron is wrong. There is a 'solar wind.' It consists of charged particles and it is strong enough to make it all the way to the heliopause. These charged particles bouncing off the solar sails impart small forces in the direction away from the sun and the sails are propelled away at very high velocities though the acceleration is rather uninspiring. Calling a recurring wave of charged particles a "Wind"..... well it's cute and all... but Ganz and Ozone think it's a breeze and you can set your sails to the wind! CM |
Neither of them is that stupid. I'm sure they realize the limitations
of solar wind sailing. But, the funny thing is by using the gravity fields of various objects in the solar system, solar sails can and probably eventually will be able to 'sail' towards the sun. CN "Capt. Mooron" wrote in message news:L6gNd.14401$tU6.2456@edtnps91... "Capt. Neal®" wrote in message ... I hate to admit it but Jonathan is right and Mooron is wrong. There is a 'solar wind.' It consists of charged particles and it is strong enough to make it all the way to the heliopause. These charged particles bouncing off the solar sails impart small forces in the direction away from the sun and the sails are propelled away at very high velocities though the acceleration is rather uninspiring. Calling a recurring wave of charged particles a "Wind"..... well it's cute and all... but Ganz and Ozone think it's a breeze and you can set your sails to the wind! CM |
"Capt. Neal®" wrote in message ... Be a man. Admit your foolish error. Further Ganz bashing only demonstrates your frustration - not your manliness. Stand Down.... I've made no error! If I recall correctly you were alluding to tacking through a Solar Wind... which would outline your proficiency in the subject you've only recently researched by utilizing Ganz's links! Here let me quote you brainiac.. Bwaahahhahahahahahhahhahha. That solar sail will work but only downwind or crosswind. It will never be able to go upwind. It is against the known laws of physics for a sailboat to sail directly into the wind and it's the same for solar sails Cross Wind????? ... on a photon wave?? Solar Wind..... Pffft! ......and since when are you placing limits to tormenting Ganz? CM |
"Capt. Mooron" wrote in message news:HegNd.14405$tU6.444@edtnps91... .....and since when are you placing limits to tormenting Ganz? CM A manly man will support even a dweeb like Jon when he is right. It happens so rarely that it takes no real effort at all . . . CN |
"Capt. Mooron" wrote in message news:HegNd.14405$tU6.444@edtnps91... Stand Down.... I've made no error! You made a HUGE error! All the ranting and raving in the world won't change that fact. If I recall correctly you were alluding to tacking through a Solar Wind... which would outline your proficiency in the subject you've only recently researched by utilizing Ganz's links! Here let me quote you brainiac.. Bwaahahhahahahahahhahhahha. That solar sail will work but only downwind or crosswind. It will never be able to go upwind. It is against the known laws of physics for a sailboat to sail directly into the wind and it's the same for solar sails Cross Wind????? ... on a photon wave?? Solar Wind..... Pffft! I stand by my statements. A solar sail cannot go anywhere but downwind. It can use gravity assist from various bodies in space to go sideways to the solar wind and even directly upwind in which case the sails would have to be furled or turned edge on to the solar wind. The velocity a solar sail attains from going downwind can be used to allow it to travel in any direction provided it has an intelligent program using planetary mechanics. And, I still have not visited a single ganz link on this subject. I have bookmarked a couple of space sites and I read them regularly. This is why I know it all. CN |
"Capt. Neal®" wrote in message ... Poor Mooron, there is no greater humiliation than to lose to Jonathan! I've lost nothing... I've made no claims..... I only posted insults and innuendo. You on the other hand seem to have lost your dignity! You lumbered in on a subject you were ill informed on and made outlandish claims... agreeing with Ganz that a Solar Wind was equivalent to an ocean breeze! Ganz posted URLs that only served to prove he didn't have a clue about the subject.... and now you've decided to compound that by siding with Ganz in the Loser's Box! Way to go there .... those books on the language of women really have had an effect... you now know how to communicate with Ganz! CM |
"Capt. Mooron" wrote in message news:TCgNd.14413$tU6.82@edtnps91... "Capt. Neal®" wrote in message ... Poor Mooron, there is no greater humiliation than to lose to Jonathan! I've lost nothing... I've made no claims..... I only posted insults and innuendo. You on the other hand seem to have lost your dignity! You lumbered in on a subject you were ill informed on and made outlandish claims... agreeing with Ganz that a Solar Wind was equivalent to an ocean breeze! Ganz posted URLs that only served to prove he didn't have a clue about the subject.... and now you've decided to compound that by siding with Ganz in the Loser's Box! Way to go there .... those books on the language of women really have had an effect... you now know how to communicate with Ganz! CM You cracked me up with that last statement. roflmbfao I guess you've noticed how, even when one is defending Jon, it's really insulting to him. CN CN |
"Capt. Neal®" wrote in message I stand by my statements. A solar sail cannot go anywhere but downwind. It can use gravity assist from various bodies in space to go sideways to the solar wind and even directly upwind in which case the sails would have to be furled or turned edge on to the solar wind. The velocity a solar sail attains from going downwind can be used to allow it to travel in any direction provided it has an intelligent program using planetary mechanics. Oh cripes... that's not what you said... here's what you said Einstein! That solar sail will work but only downwind or crosswind. And, I still have not visited a single ganz link on this subject. Yes you have..... I have bookmarked a couple of space sites and I read them regularly. If you did... you'd know how stupid your original statement was! This is why I know it all. Bwahahahahahahaaa.... Really Space Cadet?.... then kindly explain how you'd set your solar sails for a beam reach on a solar wind despite the radial pattern of dispersion. Then since you know it all..... explain the description of photon waves as a "wind".... CM |
"Capt. Neal®" wrote in message I guess you've noticed how, even when one is defending Jon, it's really insulting to him. Jon is his own worst enemy..... Frankly I'm elated you decided to jump in ... at least I was forced to engage brain cell activity! I even managed to get Ozone to jump in ... but I think he caught on as to where I was going with this and bailed! :-) CM |
Neal can't set any sails to any wind.
-- "j" ganz @@ www.sailnow.com "Capt. Mooron" wrote in message news:L6gNd.14401$tU6.2456@edtnps91... "Capt. Neal®" wrote in message ... I hate to admit it but Jonathan is right and Mooron is wrong. There is a 'solar wind.' It consists of charged particles and it is strong enough to make it all the way to the heliopause. These charged particles bouncing off the solar sails impart small forces in the direction away from the sun and the sails are propelled away at very high velocities though the acceleration is rather uninspiring. Calling a recurring wave of charged particles a "Wind"..... well it's cute and all... but Ganz and Ozone think it's a breeze and you can set your sails to the wind! CM |
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