World fuel consumption [demand] is exceeding supply. Oil
reserves will run out in our lifetimes. Scientists are now
saying we will run out of fossil fuels before they have a
significant impact on global warming.

Get a clue. Every bit of mineral oil in the ground or under
the sea, that can economically be extracted--will be extracted.
No matter where it is. The entire world economy depends on
it. You depend on it.

If you really want to save the Artic, the solution is to push for
legislation to develop and commericially market hydrogen fuels.

Consider that from the prespective of geological time the
life of Artic oil fields will be very short.

Even if nothing was done to clean up damange, which would
not happen, Mother Nature would solve this problem all by herself.
The fact is there would be a clean up when we are done extracting
this oil.

There is nothing on the ocean that can long survive--no ship,
no mining structure, and no mineral oil spill that Mother Nature
won't clean up herself in a very short time. On land it takes a
little longer.

If you want to be concerned about the environment, be concerned
about toxic chemicals and radiological contaminants--you will
find those closer to home--not in the Artic.

Let them pump all the oil and natural gas they can out of there and
simply make sure they do a clean job of it and remove all the
damage when they leave! Given time, there will be nothing
significant to show we were there. If you really care, go up there
and monitor what they are doing. I doubt you care enough to leave
your warm home--heated with fossil fuel, and put action to your
words.

In five years oil prices will be sharply higher, and you will be
mad at whoever is in office because fuel prices will be too high.
People will have bigger concerns--like how to stay warm.

"Bobsprit" wrote

Dear NRDC BioGems Defender,

No one voted on Election Day to destroy the Arctic National Wildlife
Refuge.
But President Bush is now claiming a mandate to do exactly that.

Congressional leaders are pushing for a quick vote that would turn
America's
greatest sanctuary for Arctic wildlife into a vast, polluted oil field.

Even worse, they are planning to avoid public debate on this devastating
measure by hiding it in a must-pass budget bill.

Please go to http://www.savebiogems.org/arctic/ta....asp?ms=RR0501
right now and send a message telling your U.S. senators and representative
to
reject this sneak attack on the Arctic Refuge.

And please forward my message to your friends, family and colleagues. We
must
mobilize millions of Americans in opposition as quickly as possible.

Don't believe for a second that the president is targeting the Arctic
Refuge
for the sake of America's energy security or to lower gas prices at the
pump.

President Bush knows full well that oil drilled in the Arctic Refuge would
take

ten years to get to market and would never equal more than a paltry one or
two
percent of our nation's daily consumption. Simply put, sacrificing the
crown
jewel of our wildlife heritage would do nothing to reduce gas prices or
break
our addiction to Persian Gulf oil.

But if the raid on the Arctic Refuge isn't really about gas prices or
energy
security, then what is it about?

It's the symbolism.

The Arctic Refuge represents everything spectacular and everything
endangered
about America's natural heritage. It embodies a million years of
ecological
serenity . . . a vast stretch of pristine wilderness . . . an
irreplaceable
birthing ground for polar bears, caribou and white wolves.

It is the greatest living reminder that conserving nature in its wild
state is
a core American value. It stands for every remnant of wilderness that we,
as a
people, have wisely chosen to protect from the relentless march of
bulldozers,
chain saws and oil rigs.

And that's why the Bush administration is dead set on destroying it.

By unlocking the Arctic Refuge, they hope to open the door for oil, gas
and
coal giants to invade our last and best wild places: our western
canyonlands,
our ancient forests, our coastal waters, even our national monuments.

This is the real agenda behind the raid on the Arctic Refuge and the
entire
Bush-Cheney energy plan: to transfer our public estate into corporate
hands so
it can be liquidated for a quick buck.

House Majority Leader Tom DeLay (R-TX) admitted as much when he said this
battle over the Arctic Refuge is really a fight over whether energy
exploration

will be allowed in similarly sensitive areas in the future. "It's about
precedent," Rep. DeLay said.

I take him at his word. If we let the president and Congress plunder the
Arctic

National Wildlife Refuge for the sake of oil company profits, then no
piece of
our natural heritage will be safe from wholesale destruction.

Please go to http://www.savebiogems.org/arctic/ta....asp?ms=RR0501
and tell your senators and representative they have no mandate to destroy
the
Arctic Refuge. Then please be sure to forward this message to as many
people as

you can.

And thank you for speaking out at this critical time.

Sincerely,

Robert Redford
Board of Trustees
Natural Resources Defense Council (NRDC)

Oil is created by bacteria from organic material. It does not take thousands
of years to create. It can be created in a short time from biomass.

Where does hydrogen occur naturally? How can it be gotten and yet there be
a net energy gain?

Whale blubber reserves are increasing. Using eco-statistical methods, before
we die from global warming we will be crushed by excess whale blubber.

"Bart Senior" wrote in message
...
World fuel consumption [demand] is exceeding supply. Oil
reserves will run out in our lifetimes. Scientists are now
saying we will run out of fossil fuels before they have a
significant impact on global warming.

Get a clue. Every bit of mineral oil in the ground or under
the sea, that can economically be extracted--will be extracted.
No matter where it is. The entire world economy depends on
it. You depend on it.

If you really want to save the Artic, the solution is to push for
legislation to develop and commericially market hydrogen fuels.

Consider that from the prespective of geological time the
life of Artic oil fields will be very short.

Even if nothing was done to clean up damange, which would
not happen, Mother Nature would solve this problem all by herself.
The fact is there would be a clean up when we are done extracting
this oil.

There is nothing on the ocean that can long survive--no ship,
no mining structure, and no mineral oil spill that Mother Nature
won't clean up herself in a very short time. On land it takes a
little longer.

If you want to be concerned about the environment, be concerned
about toxic chemicals and radiological contaminants--you will
find those closer to home--not in the Artic.

Let them pump all the oil and natural gas they can out of there and
simply make sure they do a clean job of it and remove all the
damage when they leave! Given time, there will be nothing
significant to show we were there. If you really care, go up there
and monitor what they are doing. I doubt you care enough to leave
your warm home--heated with fossil fuel, and put action to your
words.

In five years oil prices will be sharply higher, and you will be
mad at whoever is in office because fuel prices will be too high.
People will have bigger concerns--like how to stay warm.

"Bobsprit" wrote

Dear NRDC BioGems Defender,

No one voted on Election Day to destroy the Arctic National Wildlife
Refuge.
But President Bush is now claiming a mandate to do exactly that.

Congressional leaders are pushing for a quick vote that would turn
America's
greatest sanctuary for Arctic wildlife into a vast, polluted oil field.

Even worse, they are planning to avoid public debate on this devastating
measure by hiding it in a must-pass budget bill.

Please go to http://www.savebiogems.org/arctic/ta....asp?ms=RR0501
right now and send a message telling your U.S. senators and
representative
to
reject this sneak attack on the Arctic Refuge.

And please forward my message to your friends, family and colleagues. We
must
mobilize millions of Americans in opposition as quickly as possible.

Don't believe for a second that the president is targeting the Arctic
Refuge
for the sake of America's energy security or to lower gas prices at the
pump.

President Bush knows full well that oil drilled in the Arctic Refuge
would
take

ten years to get to market and would never equal more than a paltry one
or
two
percent of our nation's daily consumption. Simply put, sacrificing the
crown
jewel of our wildlife heritage would do nothing to reduce gas prices or
break
our addiction to Persian Gulf oil.

But if the raid on the Arctic Refuge isn't really about gas prices or
energy
security, then what is it about?

It's the symbolism.

The Arctic Refuge represents everything spectacular and everything
endangered
about America's natural heritage. It embodies a million years of
ecological
serenity . . . a vast stretch of pristine wilderness . . . an
irreplaceable
birthing ground for polar bears, caribou and white wolves.

It is the greatest living reminder that conserving nature in its wild
state is
a core American value. It stands for every remnant of wilderness that
we,
as a
people, have wisely chosen to protect from the relentless march of
bulldozers,
chain saws and oil rigs.

And that's why the Bush administration is dead set on destroying it.

By unlocking the Arctic Refuge, they hope to open the door for oil, gas
and
coal giants to invade our last and best wild places: our western
canyonlands,
our ancient forests, our coastal waters, even our national monuments.

This is the real agenda behind the raid on the Arctic Refuge and the
entire
Bush-Cheney energy plan: to transfer our public estate into corporate
hands so
it can be liquidated for a quick buck.

House Majority Leader Tom DeLay (R-TX) admitted as much when he said
this
battle over the Arctic Refuge is really a fight over whether energy
exploration

will be allowed in similarly sensitive areas in the future. "It's about
precedent," Rep. DeLay said.

I take him at his word. If we let the president and Congress plunder the
Arctic

National Wildlife Refuge for the sake of oil company profits, then no
piece of
our natural heritage will be safe from wholesale destruction.

Please go to http://www.savebiogems.org/arctic/ta....asp?ms=RR0501
and tell your senators and representative they have no mandate to
destroy
the
Arctic Refuge. Then please be sure to forward this message to as many
people as

you can.

And thank you for speaking out at this critical time.

Sincerely,

Robert Redford
Board of Trustees
Natural Resources Defense Council (NRDC)

On Fri, 11 Feb 2005 02:19:21 GMT, "Gilligan"
wrote this crap:

Oil is created by bacteria from organic material. It does not take thousands
of years to create. It can be created in a short time from biomass.

Where does hydrogen occur naturally?

Everywhere. The oceans are 2/3rds hydrogen. Your body is full of
hydrogen.


How can it be gotten and yet there be
a net energy gain?


Fusion.





Pathetic Earthlings! No one can save you now!

That is bound hydrogen. The fuel is atomic hydrogen, which is unbound. The
energy cost is in breaking the bond. Did you know that gasoline has lots of
hydrogen in it?
"Horvath" wrote in message
...
On Fri, 11 Feb 2005 02:19:21 GMT, "Gilligan"
wrote this crap:

Oil is created by bacteria from organic material. It does not take
thousands
of years to create. It can be created in a short time from biomass.

Where does hydrogen occur naturally?

Everywhere. The oceans are 2/3rds hydrogen. Your body is full of
hydrogen.


How can it be gotten and yet there be
a net energy gain?


Fusion.





Pathetic Earthlings! No one can save you now!

Horvath wants to be bound.... and gagged.

--
"j" ganz @@
www.sailnow.com

"Gilligan" wrote in message
ink.net...
That is bound hydrogen. The fuel is atomic hydrogen, which is unbound. The
energy cost is in breaking the bond. Did you know that gasoline has lots
of
hydrogen in it?
"Horvath" wrote in message
...
On Fri, 11 Feb 2005 02:19:21 GMT, "Gilligan"
wrote this crap:

Oil is created by bacteria from organic material. It does not take
thousands
of years to create. It can be created in a short time from biomass.

Where does hydrogen occur naturally?

Everywhere. The oceans are 2/3rds hydrogen. Your body is full of
hydrogen.


How can it be gotten and yet there be
a net energy gain?


Fusion.





Pathetic Earthlings! No one can save you now!

"JG" wrote in message
...
Horvath wants to be bound.... and gagged.

And I want to spank you with a big rubber paddle!

Gilligan

What's the matter? ****ed off that you got bounced because you use a bunch
of sockpuppets?

--
"j" ganz @@
www.sailnow.com

"Gilligan" wrote in message
ink.net...

"JG" wrote in message
...
Horvath wants to be bound.... and gagged.

And I want to spank you with a big rubber paddle!

Gilligan

On Fri, 11 Feb 2005 10:08:19 -0800, "JG" wrote
this crap:

Horvath wants to be bound.... and gagged.


Must you gay up every post with your homosexual fantasies?





Pathetic Earthlings! No one can save you now!

On Fri, 11 Feb 2005 13:47:23 GMT, "Gilligan"
wrote this crap:

That is bound hydrogen. The fuel is atomic hydrogen, which is unbound. The
energy cost is in breaking the bond. Did you know that gasoline has lots of
hydrogen in it?


I can write you the chemical formula for heptane, hexane, and octane.



"Horvath" wrote in message
.. .
On Fri, 11 Feb 2005 02:19:21 GMT, "Gilligan"
wrote this crap:

Oil is created by bacteria from organic material. It does not take
thousands
of years to create. It can be created in a short time from biomass.

Where does hydrogen occur naturally?

Everywhere. The oceans are 2/3rds hydrogen. Your body is full of
hydrogen.


How can it be gotten and yet there be
a net energy gain?


Fusion.





Pathetic Earthlings! No one can save you now!




Pathetic Earthlings! No one can save you now!

They're cyclic hydrocarbons.
What's the formula for cocaine?

Gilligan


"Horvath" wrote in message
...
On Fri, 11 Feb 2005 13:47:23 GMT, "Gilligan"
wrote this crap:

That is bound hydrogen. The fuel is atomic hydrogen, which is unbound.
The
energy cost is in breaking the bond. Did you know that gasoline has lots
of
hydrogen in it?


I can write you the chemical formula for heptane, hexane, and octane.



"Horvath" wrote in message
.. .
On Fri, 11 Feb 2005 02:19:21 GMT, "Gilligan"
wrote this crap:

Oil is created by bacteria from organic material. It does not take
thousands
of years to create. It can be created in a short time from biomass.

Where does hydrogen occur naturally?

Everywhere. The oceans are 2/3rds hydrogen. Your body is full of
hydrogen.


How can it be gotten and yet there be
a net energy gain?


Fusion.





Pathetic Earthlings! No one can save you now!




Pathetic Earthlings! No one can save you now!