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Dear NRDC BioGems Defender,
No one voted on Election Day to destroy the Arctic National Wildlife Refuge. But President Bush is now claiming a mandate to do exactly that. Congressional leaders are pushing for a quick vote that would turn America's greatest sanctuary for Arctic wildlife into a vast, polluted oil field. Even worse, they are planning to avoid public debate on this devastating measure by hiding it in a must-pass budget bill. Please go to http://www.savebiogems.org/arctic/ta....asp?ms=RR0501 right now and send a message telling your U.S. senators and representative to reject this sneak attack on the Arctic Refuge. And please forward my message to your friends, family and colleagues. We must mobilize millions of Americans in opposition as quickly as possible. Don't believe for a second that the president is targeting the Arctic Refuge for the sake of America's energy security or to lower gas prices at the pump. President Bush knows full well that oil drilled in the Arctic Refuge would take ten years to get to market and would never equal more than a paltry one or two percent of our nation's daily consumption. Simply put, sacrificing the crown jewel of our wildlife heritage would do nothing to reduce gas prices or break our addiction to Persian Gulf oil. But if the raid on the Arctic Refuge isn't really about gas prices or energy security, then what is it about? It's the symbolism. The Arctic Refuge represents everything spectacular and everything endangered about America's natural heritage. It embodies a million years of ecological serenity . . . a vast stretch of pristine wilderness . . . an irreplaceable birthing ground for polar bears, caribou and white wolves. It is the greatest living reminder that conserving nature in its wild state is a core American value. It stands for every remnant of wilderness that we, as a people, have wisely chosen to protect from the relentless march of bulldozers, chain saws and oil rigs. And that's why the Bush administration is dead set on destroying it. By unlocking the Arctic Refuge, they hope to open the door for oil, gas and coal giants to invade our last and best wild places: our western canyonlands, our ancient forests, our coastal waters, even our national monuments. This is the real agenda behind the raid on the Arctic Refuge and the entire Bush-Cheney energy plan: to transfer our public estate into corporate hands so it can be liquidated for a quick buck. House Majority Leader Tom DeLay (R-TX) admitted as much when he said this battle over the Arctic Refuge is really a fight over whether energy exploration will be allowed in similarly sensitive areas in the future. "It's about precedent," Rep. DeLay said. I take him at his word. If we let the president and Congress plunder the Arctic National Wildlife Refuge for the sake of oil company profits, then no piece of our natural heritage will be safe from wholesale destruction. Please go to http://www.savebiogems.org/arctic/ta....asp?ms=RR0501 and tell your senators and representative they have no mandate to destroy the Arctic Refuge. Then please be sure to forward this message to as many people as you can. And thank you for speaking out at this critical time. Sincerely, Robert Redford Board of Trustees Natural Resources Defense Council (NRDC) |
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Wow... you got a letter from Robert Redford.... you are well connected in
the movie industry aren't you Bob! BTW - tell Robert Redford that anyone who voted for Bush ... did indeed vote to turn the refuge into an oil field.... Duh!! CM "Bobsprit" wrote in message ... Dear NRDC BioGems Defender, No one voted on Election Day to destroy the Arctic National Wildlife Refuge. But President Bush is now claiming a mandate to do exactly that. Congressional leaders are pushing for a quick vote that would turn America's greatest sanctuary for Arctic wildlife into a vast, polluted oil field. Even worse, they are planning to avoid public debate on this devastating measure by hiding it in a must-pass budget bill. Please go to http://www.savebiogems.org/arctic/ta....asp?ms=RR0501 right now and send a message telling your U.S. senators and representative to reject this sneak attack on the Arctic Refuge. And please forward my message to your friends, family and colleagues. We must mobilize millions of Americans in opposition as quickly as possible. Don't believe for a second that the president is targeting the Arctic Refuge for the sake of America's energy security or to lower gas prices at the pump. President Bush knows full well that oil drilled in the Arctic Refuge would take ten years to get to market and would never equal more than a paltry one or two percent of our nation's daily consumption. Simply put, sacrificing the crown jewel of our wildlife heritage would do nothing to reduce gas prices or break our addiction to Persian Gulf oil. But if the raid on the Arctic Refuge isn't really about gas prices or energy security, then what is it about? It's the symbolism. The Arctic Refuge represents everything spectacular and everything endangered about America's natural heritage. It embodies a million years of ecological serenity . . . a vast stretch of pristine wilderness . . . an irreplaceable birthing ground for polar bears, caribou and white wolves. It is the greatest living reminder that conserving nature in its wild state is a core American value. It stands for every remnant of wilderness that we, as a people, have wisely chosen to protect from the relentless march of bulldozers, chain saws and oil rigs. And that's why the Bush administration is dead set on destroying it. By unlocking the Arctic Refuge, they hope to open the door for oil, gas and coal giants to invade our last and best wild places: our western canyonlands, our ancient forests, our coastal waters, even our national monuments. This is the real agenda behind the raid on the Arctic Refuge and the entire Bush-Cheney energy plan: to transfer our public estate into corporate hands so it can be liquidated for a quick buck. House Majority Leader Tom DeLay (R-TX) admitted as much when he said this battle over the Arctic Refuge is really a fight over whether energy exploration will be allowed in similarly sensitive areas in the future. "It's about precedent," Rep. DeLay said. I take him at his word. If we let the president and Congress plunder the Arctic National Wildlife Refuge for the sake of oil company profits, then no piece of our natural heritage will be safe from wholesale destruction. Please go to http://www.savebiogems.org/arctic/ta....asp?ms=RR0501 and tell your senators and representative they have no mandate to destroy the Arctic Refuge. Then please be sure to forward this message to as many people as you can. And thank you for speaking out at this critical time. Sincerely, Robert Redford Board of Trustees Natural Resources Defense Council (NRDC) |
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On Fri, 04 Feb 2005 11:21:51 GMT, "Capt. Mooron"
wrote this crap: Wow... you got a letter from Robert Redford.... you are well connected in the movie industry aren't you Bob! BTW - tell Robert Redford that anyone who voted for Bush ... did indeed vote to turn the refuge into an oil field.... Duh!! Better there, than in the Great Lakes. Pathetic Earthlings! No one can save you now! |
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![]() "Horvath" wrote in message ... On Fri, 04 Feb 2005 11:21:51 GMT, "Capt. Mooron" wrote this crap: Wow... you got a letter from Robert Redford.... you are well connected in the movie industry aren't you Bob! BTW - tell Robert Redford that anyone who voted for Bush ... did indeed vote to turn the refuge into an oil field.... Duh!! Better there, than in the Great Lakes. The Great Lakes are an environmental hazard... that's close enough! CM |
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Bob,
Guess you never been fishing at an drilling or production rig have you? You dont know sqawt about the oilfield. It about time we reduce the dependence on other for our energy needs. More Nukes, More Drilling, More Solar, More wind. All made in America. Joe |
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More like hot air.
-- "j" ganz @@ www.sailnow.com "Joe" wrote in message oups.com... Bob, Guess you never been fishing at an drilling or production rig have you? You dont know sqawt about the oilfield. It about time we reduce the dependence on other for our energy needs. More Nukes, More Drilling, More Solar, More wind. All made in America. Joe |
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World fuel consumption [demand] is exceeding supply. Oil
reserves will run out in our lifetimes. Scientists are now saying we will run out of fossil fuels before they have a significant impact on global warming. Get a clue. Every bit of mineral oil in the ground or under the sea, that can economically be extracted--will be extracted. No matter where it is. The entire world economy depends on it. You depend on it. If you really want to save the Artic, the solution is to push for legislation to develop and commericially market hydrogen fuels. Consider that from the prespective of geological time the life of Artic oil fields will be very short. Even if nothing was done to clean up damange, which would not happen, Mother Nature would solve this problem all by herself. The fact is there would be a clean up when we are done extracting this oil. There is nothing on the ocean that can long survive--no ship, no mining structure, and no mineral oil spill that Mother Nature won't clean up herself in a very short time. On land it takes a little longer. If you want to be concerned about the environment, be concerned about toxic chemicals and radiological contaminants--you will find those closer to home--not in the Artic. Let them pump all the oil and natural gas they can out of there and simply make sure they do a clean job of it and remove all the damage when they leave! Given time, there will be nothing significant to show we were there. If you really care, go up there and monitor what they are doing. I doubt you care enough to leave your warm home--heated with fossil fuel, and put action to your words. In five years oil prices will be sharply higher, and you will be mad at whoever is in office because fuel prices will be too high. People will have bigger concerns--like how to stay warm. "Bobsprit" wrote Dear NRDC BioGems Defender, No one voted on Election Day to destroy the Arctic National Wildlife Refuge. But President Bush is now claiming a mandate to do exactly that. Congressional leaders are pushing for a quick vote that would turn America's greatest sanctuary for Arctic wildlife into a vast, polluted oil field. Even worse, they are planning to avoid public debate on this devastating measure by hiding it in a must-pass budget bill. Please go to http://www.savebiogems.org/arctic/ta....asp?ms=RR0501 right now and send a message telling your U.S. senators and representative to reject this sneak attack on the Arctic Refuge. And please forward my message to your friends, family and colleagues. We must mobilize millions of Americans in opposition as quickly as possible. Don't believe for a second that the president is targeting the Arctic Refuge for the sake of America's energy security or to lower gas prices at the pump. President Bush knows full well that oil drilled in the Arctic Refuge would take ten years to get to market and would never equal more than a paltry one or two percent of our nation's daily consumption. Simply put, sacrificing the crown jewel of our wildlife heritage would do nothing to reduce gas prices or break our addiction to Persian Gulf oil. But if the raid on the Arctic Refuge isn't really about gas prices or energy security, then what is it about? It's the symbolism. The Arctic Refuge represents everything spectacular and everything endangered about America's natural heritage. It embodies a million years of ecological serenity . . . a vast stretch of pristine wilderness . . . an irreplaceable birthing ground for polar bears, caribou and white wolves. It is the greatest living reminder that conserving nature in its wild state is a core American value. It stands for every remnant of wilderness that we, as a people, have wisely chosen to protect from the relentless march of bulldozers, chain saws and oil rigs. And that's why the Bush administration is dead set on destroying it. By unlocking the Arctic Refuge, they hope to open the door for oil, gas and coal giants to invade our last and best wild places: our western canyonlands, our ancient forests, our coastal waters, even our national monuments. This is the real agenda behind the raid on the Arctic Refuge and the entire Bush-Cheney energy plan: to transfer our public estate into corporate hands so it can be liquidated for a quick buck. House Majority Leader Tom DeLay (R-TX) admitted as much when he said this battle over the Arctic Refuge is really a fight over whether energy exploration will be allowed in similarly sensitive areas in the future. "It's about precedent," Rep. DeLay said. I take him at his word. If we let the president and Congress plunder the Arctic National Wildlife Refuge for the sake of oil company profits, then no piece of our natural heritage will be safe from wholesale destruction. Please go to http://www.savebiogems.org/arctic/ta....asp?ms=RR0501 and tell your senators and representative they have no mandate to destroy the Arctic Refuge. Then please be sure to forward this message to as many people as you can. And thank you for speaking out at this critical time. Sincerely, Robert Redford Board of Trustees Natural Resources Defense Council (NRDC) |
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Oil is created by bacteria from organic material. It does not take thousands
of years to create. It can be created in a short time from biomass. Where does hydrogen occur naturally? How can it be gotten and yet there be a net energy gain? Whale blubber reserves are increasing. Using eco-statistical methods, before we die from global warming we will be crushed by excess whale blubber. "Bart Senior" wrote in message ... World fuel consumption [demand] is exceeding supply. Oil reserves will run out in our lifetimes. Scientists are now saying we will run out of fossil fuels before they have a significant impact on global warming. Get a clue. Every bit of mineral oil in the ground or under the sea, that can economically be extracted--will be extracted. No matter where it is. The entire world economy depends on it. You depend on it. If you really want to save the Artic, the solution is to push for legislation to develop and commericially market hydrogen fuels. Consider that from the prespective of geological time the life of Artic oil fields will be very short. Even if nothing was done to clean up damange, which would not happen, Mother Nature would solve this problem all by herself. The fact is there would be a clean up when we are done extracting this oil. There is nothing on the ocean that can long survive--no ship, no mining structure, and no mineral oil spill that Mother Nature won't clean up herself in a very short time. On land it takes a little longer. If you want to be concerned about the environment, be concerned about toxic chemicals and radiological contaminants--you will find those closer to home--not in the Artic. Let them pump all the oil and natural gas they can out of there and simply make sure they do a clean job of it and remove all the damage when they leave! Given time, there will be nothing significant to show we were there. If you really care, go up there and monitor what they are doing. I doubt you care enough to leave your warm home--heated with fossil fuel, and put action to your words. In five years oil prices will be sharply higher, and you will be mad at whoever is in office because fuel prices will be too high. People will have bigger concerns--like how to stay warm. "Bobsprit" wrote Dear NRDC BioGems Defender, No one voted on Election Day to destroy the Arctic National Wildlife Refuge. But President Bush is now claiming a mandate to do exactly that. Congressional leaders are pushing for a quick vote that would turn America's greatest sanctuary for Arctic wildlife into a vast, polluted oil field. Even worse, they are planning to avoid public debate on this devastating measure by hiding it in a must-pass budget bill. Please go to http://www.savebiogems.org/arctic/ta....asp?ms=RR0501 right now and send a message telling your U.S. senators and representative to reject this sneak attack on the Arctic Refuge. And please forward my message to your friends, family and colleagues. We must mobilize millions of Americans in opposition as quickly as possible. Don't believe for a second that the president is targeting the Arctic Refuge for the sake of America's energy security or to lower gas prices at the pump. President Bush knows full well that oil drilled in the Arctic Refuge would take ten years to get to market and would never equal more than a paltry one or two percent of our nation's daily consumption. Simply put, sacrificing the crown jewel of our wildlife heritage would do nothing to reduce gas prices or break our addiction to Persian Gulf oil. But if the raid on the Arctic Refuge isn't really about gas prices or energy security, then what is it about? It's the symbolism. The Arctic Refuge represents everything spectacular and everything endangered about America's natural heritage. It embodies a million years of ecological serenity . . . a vast stretch of pristine wilderness . . . an irreplaceable birthing ground for polar bears, caribou and white wolves. It is the greatest living reminder that conserving nature in its wild state is a core American value. It stands for every remnant of wilderness that we, as a people, have wisely chosen to protect from the relentless march of bulldozers, chain saws and oil rigs. And that's why the Bush administration is dead set on destroying it. By unlocking the Arctic Refuge, they hope to open the door for oil, gas and coal giants to invade our last and best wild places: our western canyonlands, our ancient forests, our coastal waters, even our national monuments. This is the real agenda behind the raid on the Arctic Refuge and the entire Bush-Cheney energy plan: to transfer our public estate into corporate hands so it can be liquidated for a quick buck. House Majority Leader Tom DeLay (R-TX) admitted as much when he said this battle over the Arctic Refuge is really a fight over whether energy exploration will be allowed in similarly sensitive areas in the future. "It's about precedent," Rep. DeLay said. I take him at his word. If we let the president and Congress plunder the Arctic National Wildlife Refuge for the sake of oil company profits, then no piece of our natural heritage will be safe from wholesale destruction. Please go to http://www.savebiogems.org/arctic/ta....asp?ms=RR0501 and tell your senators and representative they have no mandate to destroy the Arctic Refuge. Then please be sure to forward this message to as many people as you can. And thank you for speaking out at this critical time. Sincerely, Robert Redford Board of Trustees Natural Resources Defense Council (NRDC) |
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On Fri, 11 Feb 2005 02:19:21 GMT, "Gilligan"
wrote this crap: Oil is created by bacteria from organic material. It does not take thousands of years to create. It can be created in a short time from biomass. Where does hydrogen occur naturally? Everywhere. The oceans are 2/3rds hydrogen. Your body is full of hydrogen. How can it be gotten and yet there be a net energy gain? Fusion. Pathetic Earthlings! No one can save you now! |
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That is bound hydrogen. The fuel is atomic hydrogen, which is unbound. The
energy cost is in breaking the bond. Did you know that gasoline has lots of hydrogen in it? "Horvath" wrote in message ... On Fri, 11 Feb 2005 02:19:21 GMT, "Gilligan" wrote this crap: Oil is created by bacteria from organic material. It does not take thousands of years to create. It can be created in a short time from biomass. Where does hydrogen occur naturally? Everywhere. The oceans are 2/3rds hydrogen. Your body is full of hydrogen. How can it be gotten and yet there be a net energy gain? Fusion. Pathetic Earthlings! No one can save you now! |
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