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Smart Cars
I understand they don't have them in the USA... is this true??
http://www.germancarfans.com/news.cf...1/smart/1.html |
That's right. We have smart people instead.
-- "j" ganz @@ www.sailnow.com "Capt. Mooron" wrote in message news:IGXLd.91973$Ob.50687@edtnps84... I understand they don't have them in the USA... is this true?? http://www.germancarfans.com/news.cf...1/smart/1.html |
That would fit inside most of our SUVs.
Looks like something Ganz would drive. SV "Capt. Mooron" wrote in message news:IGXLd.91973$Ob.50687@edtnps84... I understand they don't have them in the USA... is this true?? http://www.germancarfans.com/news.cf...1/smart/1.html |
I understand they don't have them in the USA... is this true??
http://www.germancarfans.com/news.cf...1/smart/1.html OzOne wrote: Great little city car. There's a roadster version here too. http://www.motorsm.com/Collection/gallery/2463.htm I don't get it. What's "smart" about them? I was expecting a car with an autopilot. DSK |
Capt. Mooron wrote:
I understand they don't have them in the USA... is this true?? http://www.germancarfans.com/news.cf...1/smart/1.html They say next year for the US. I've seen one at a Mercedes dealer - pretty neat, but it felt more like a fancy golf cart than a small car. |
"DSK" wrote I don't get it. What's "smart" about them? I was expecting a car with an autopilot. Same here. Are they still working on the magnet guided cars out in Calif.? Asking for trouble, IMO. Scotty |
... I was expecting a car
with an autopilot. Scott Vernon wrote: Same here. Are they still working on the magnet guided cars out in Calif.? Asking for trouble, IMO. Shucks, they're working on video-guided cars, and cars with infrared data exchange ports for linking up in traffic. Why would it be trouble (assuming the system has been adequately debugged)? I'd a lot rather just say "Home, James!" and put my feet up than fight morons yakking on their cell phones while goign 80 in bumper-to-bumper traffic. Let the computer do it! And as for the morons, obviously a computer is going to be a safer driver.... DSK |
"DSK" wrote in message ... ... I was expecting a car with an autopilot. Scott Vernon wrote: Same here. Are they still working on the magnet guided cars out in Calif.? Asking for trouble, IMO. Shucks, they're working on video-guided cars, and cars with infrared data exchange ports for linking up in traffic. Why would it be trouble (assuming the system has been adequately debugged)? I'd a lot rather just say "Home, James!" and put my feet up than fight morons yakking on their cell phones while goign 80 in bumper-to-bumper traffic. Let the computer do it! And as for the morons, obviously a computer is going to be a safer driver.... What if they use a Microsoft program? |
Scott Vernon wrote:
What if they use a Microsoft program? NNOOOoooooo !! DSK |
Great.. A german prostitute slave made car modified by frogs.
They need to keep that crap out of the USA Joe |
I drive a Jeep.
-- "j" ganz @@ www.sailnow.com "Scott Vernon" wrote in message ... That would fit inside most of our SUVs. Looks like something Ganz would drive. SV "Capt. Mooron" wrote in message news:IGXLd.91973$Ob.50687@edtnps84... I understand they don't have them in the USA... is this true?? http://www.germancarfans.com/news.cf...1/smart/1.html |
DSK wrote:
OzOne wrote: Great little city car. There's a roadster version here too. http://www.motorsm.com/Collection/gallery/2463.htm I don't get it. What's "smart" about them? This is european English, "smart" as in "chic", or stylish, i.e. "Raisa wore a smart Dior, while Laura sported a dated pinafore." Cheers Marty |
DSK wrote: Scott Vernon wrote: What if they use a Microsoft program? NNOOOoooooo !! Oh, you guys can bite me! My stock has already been flat for years, although my dividend check at xmas was nice. Gimme a break. Please! The kids need to eat! Besides, whatcha gonna use, Linux? Ha! Frank, retired from an unnamed large software company near Seattle in 95 and uninterested in returning to work |
"Scott Vernon" wrote in message ... That would fit inside most of our SUVs. Looks like something Ganz would drive. SV Hell, it looks like it would fit in the bed of my lwb Ranger. John Cairns "Capt. Mooron" wrote in message news:IGXLd.91973$Ob.50687@edtnps84... I understand they don't have them in the USA... is this true?? http://www.germancarfans.com/news.cf...1/smart/1.html |
What if they use a Microsoft program?
NNOOOoooooo !! Frank wrote: Oh, you guys can bite me! My stock has already been flat for years, although my dividend check at xmas was nice. Gimme a break. Please! The kids need to eat! Better talk to Uncle Bill 'bout dat! Glad to hear Micro$oft is paying decent dividends, a while ago there was big flap about them starting to pay them... Besides, whatcha gonna use, Linux? Maybe. I've seen some control system networks using it. At least the code is transparent. Ha! Well, Ha! to you, sir! Just yesterday I got stalled in a line at the grocery store while a clerk tried to get the cash register running... guess what OS the thing was running... Tell me Frank, would you fly in a plane that was controlled by any Windows variant? Frank, retired from an unnamed large software company near Seattle in 95 and uninterested in returning to work What, you didn't come back to work for the Y2K fiasco?? Slacker! DSK |
Well, actually, to change this from alt.sailing to
alt.flight-software-controllers... Yes, I have flown in a couple of homebuilt aircraft using MS software. I have intense lust for a Velocity 4-place canard built by a guy I know in the XBox group. It's the perfect airplane. Sigh... And for sailing content, I've crewed on several boats using MS software. But that's nitpicking. I understand that there's a strong vein of anti-MS out there in the universe and I don't really care. Just like I enjoyed getting my dividend check but didn't find it an adequate substitute for the stock performance I'd gotten used to in 90's. There was sure a lot of money to be made off the Y2K insanity; but I'm lazy. I value my time more than I value money, as long as I can put food on the table. And people were CRAZY during that silliness. Frank |
OzOne wrote I don't get it. What's "smart" about them? I was expecting a car with an autopilot. DSK You can order them in a whole variety of configurations and colours, Wow! Welcome to the 21st century. Imagine that, you can get a car in different colors. What *will* they think of next? Automatic transmissions? it's mind boggling Scooter |
Capt. Mooron wrote: I understand they don't have them in the USA... is this true?? http://www.germancarfans.com/news.cf...1/smart/1.html He Mooron WTF? I thought you were a Saturn Man. Good Ol GM. http://www.saturndan.com/skypics.htm The new all American Saturn Sky Roadster. BTW The production model is even cooler. Not some Kraut French HOJ. The smart is as cool as a Yugo. Joe |
On Wed, 2 Feb 2005 10:45:52 -0800, "JG" wrote
this crap: I drive a sheep. We know. We know. No need to brag about it. Pathetic Earthlings! No one can save you now! |
Frank wrote:
Well, actually, to change this from alt.sailing to alt.flight-software-controllers... Yes, I have flown in a couple of homebuilt aircraft using MS software. No fair! I said "Windows" specifically. Actually *if* set up correctly, NT isn't too bad for networked controllers. I don't know how to do it myself, but over the years I've built up a working list of pitfalls to avoid. The problem doing that with a car is that each entry on the punch list represents somebody's smash-up. Don't take this personally Frank, I switched from Mac to PC a few years ago and am still appalled at how often Windows 98, ME, SE, and XP crash. As soon as they quit buying me new computers every two years, I'm switching back... I have intense lust for a Velocity 4-place canard built by a guy I know in the XBox group. It's the perfect airplane. Sigh... One of these? http://www.velocityaircraft.com/airabout.html It definitely looks like a cool plane! If it had a VTOL option, then it'd be the *perfect* plane... ... And for sailing content, I've crewed on several boats using MS software. You're way ahead of me there. ... Just like I enjoyed getting my dividend check but didn't find it an adequate substitute for the stock performance I'd gotten used to in 90's. Income can easily be turned into growth, but growth can't so easily be turned into income. There was sure a lot of money to be made off the Y2K insanity; but I'm lazy. I value my time more than I value money, as long as I can put food on the table. And people were CRAZY during that silliness. Oh yes. Big time. They say it comes and goes in cycles. It's nice to get far enough up on the power curve that you can relax the money grabber. When young & poor, I threw away lots & lots of time to save a little money... fixing up boats was a prime example. Fresh Breezes- Doug King |
Hee, hee! Ok, Doug, ya got me on the Windows-specific thing. Actually,
I spent a couple of years around '90 working on Mac stuff. (You do know that MS has historically been their biggest applications supplier?) I probably used 'em harder than most people; but I got that damned "anarchist's bomb" (BSOD equivalent) pretty regularly. And I know lots of graphic artists, etc. who are much happier in the Mac environment. Anyway... As for sailing with software, I've decided that it's too high-tech for me. I'm sure it wins races to have all that info to massage; but I'd just prefer to enjoy the *feel* of sailing, even if it means coming in second behind the guys who have a coupla software geeks on their crew crunching data fulltime. I suspect I have more *fun* than they do. The website you cited *is* the airplane I love. A joy to fly, roomiest cockpit in the universe, excellent visibility, cruise at 200, and stall-proof. But I'm a pilot not a builder. Gotta find one already built, just the way I want, for a good price. Right. Oh yeah, and convince my wife that we really do *need* an airplane. Good luck to me on that one! |
"Horvath" wrote in message
... I'm a sheep. |
Doug... how the hell do you crash XP Pro.... I've tried on many occasions
and so far have no managed to get my system to even lock up. I'm running a 2.4 Ghz, Asus Mobo, 1 Gig of ram ... overclocked. I regularly run several applications at the same time. The last few months saw a steady decline in performance results from the benchmark tests so I decided to F-Disk the drive and now it's running fast and steady. CM "DSK" wrote in message ... Frank wrote: Well, actually, to change this from alt.sailing to alt.flight-software-controllers... Yes, I have flown in a couple of homebuilt aircraft using MS software. No fair! I said "Windows" specifically. Actually *if* set up correctly, NT isn't too bad for networked controllers. I don't know how to do it myself, but over the years I've built up a working list of pitfalls to avoid. The problem doing that with a car is that each entry on the punch list represents somebody's smash-up. Don't take this personally Frank, I switched from Mac to PC a few years ago and am still appalled at how often Windows 98, ME, SE, and XP crash. As soon as they quit buying me new computers every two years, I'm switching back... I have intense lust for a Velocity 4-place canard built by a guy I know in the XBox group. It's the perfect airplane. Sigh... One of these? http://www.velocityaircraft.com/airabout.html It definitely looks like a cool plane! If it had a VTOL option, then it'd be the *perfect* plane... ... And for sailing content, I've crewed on several boats using MS software. You're way ahead of me there. ... Just like I enjoyed getting my dividend check but didn't find it an adequate substitute for the stock performance I'd gotten used to in 90's. Income can easily be turned into growth, but growth can't so easily be turned into income. There was sure a lot of money to be made off the Y2K insanity; but I'm lazy. I value my time more than I value money, as long as I can put food on the table. And people were CRAZY during that silliness. Oh yes. Big time. They say it comes and goes in cycles. It's nice to get far enough up on the power curve that you can relax the money grabber. When young & poor, I threw away lots & lots of time to save a little money... fixing up boats was a prime example. Fresh Breezes- Doug King |
"Joe" wrote in message oups.com... Capt. Mooron wrote: I understand they don't have them in the USA... is this true?? http://www.germancarfans.com/news.cf...1/smart/1.html He Mooron WTF? I thought you were a Saturn Man. Good Ol GM. Saturn VUE & a S15 GMC 1/4 ton 4x4...... http://www.saturndan.com/skypics.htm The new all American Saturn Sky Roadster. BTW The production model is even cooler. Not some Kraut French HOJ. The smart is as cool as a Yugo. Look Joe.... the car seems a great idea for in city driving. I heard from a friend who test drove one that it's fast off the mark, will do 120Km/H on the highway easy, zips in and out of traffic..... easy to park and gets 80 miles to the gallon. I think they look cool for a car that small.... rear engine / rear wheel drive. BTW - It's Kraut/Yankee CM |
Capt. Mooron wrote:
Doug... how the hell do you crash XP Pro.... I don't know. *I* don't do anything, it crashes on it's own. After learning to pray to the gods of Ctrl-Alt-Del, it seems really odd when the Mac starts killing processes on it's own. But it very rarely locks up or crashes or loses files. To give XP-Pro it's due, it doesn't crash or get retarded as often as earlier Windows OSs, but it's still a regular occurence. Regards Doug King |
OzOne wrote:
You've got a hardware problem, my bet a dodgy CPUfan. Don't think so, it's a laptop. My "other" computer, identical hardware & software, has a different systray, and has different symptoms. The worst part is that they work just fine most of the time, so when it crashes, you aren't expecting it! DSK |
Frank wrote:
Hee, hee! Ok, Doug, ya got me on the Windows-specific thing. Actually, I spent a couple of years around '90 working on Mac stuff. (You do know that MS has historically been their biggest applications supplier?) I didn't know that. Is that why MS bought up Apple? ... I probably used 'em harder than most people; but I got that damned "anarchist's bomb" (BSOD equivalent) pretty regularly. I've seen that a few times, but nowhere near as often as Windows crashes. Usually what happens is that the Mac decides something is rotten in the state of Denmark, saves your file with a marker on the desktop, and kills the process. You see the app window pop like a soap bubble, and say bad words, but you can start right back again no prob. Compare that to the 2 or 3 times a week Windows crash, where you spend a few minutes trying make sure the damn thing has really crashed, rebooting, and trying to get the computer to pretty please restart the application. Then sometimes as it was getting ready to crash, it also lost your file. Windows XP-Pro (and WTF have 2 bloated versions of the same OS?) doesn't do this nearly so often as '98, ME, SE, 2000, etc etc. But it's still necessary to keep it in mind as one is trying to work, or one gets "gotcha"d. ... And I know lots of graphic artists, etc. who are much happier in the Mac environment. Anyway... Is CAD a graphic art? ;) As for sailing with software, I've decided that it's too high-tech for me. I'm sure it wins races to have all that info to massage; but I'd just prefer to enjoy the *feel* of sailing, even if it means coming in second behind the guys who have a coupla software geeks on their crew crunching data fulltime. I suspect I have more *fun* than they do. Maybe. There are lots of different ways to have fun. I know people who cruise up and down the ICW and enjoy trying to make the little boat icon on the computer screen follow the little red line on the chart. Diff'rent strokes and all that. The website you cited *is* the airplane I love. A joy to fly, roomiest cockpit in the universe, excellent visibility, cruise at 200, and stall-proof. But I'm a pilot not a builder. Gotta find one already built, just the way I want, for a good price. You need to hook up with somebody who enjoys building them instead of flying them. ... Right. Oh yeah, and convince my wife that we really do *need* an airplane. Good luck to me on that one! Just show her on map all the fun places you can go in far less time (and subtley point out that time is money). They need to make a camper version, then you'd be all set ;) Regards Doug King |
"DSK" wrote in message Is CAD a graphic art? ;) NO!... it's a drafting / modeling application. CM |
Capt. Mooron wrote: "Joe" wrote in message oups.com... Capt. Mooron wrote: I understand they don't have them in the USA... is this true?? http://www.germancarfans.com/news.cf...1/smart/1.html He Mooron WTF? I thought you were a Saturn Man. Good Ol GM. Saturn VUE & a S15 GMC 1/4 ton 4x4...... http://www.saturndan.com/skypics.htm The new all American Saturn Sky Roadster. BTW The production model is even cooler. Not some Kraut French HOJ. The smart is as cool as a Yugo. Look Joe.... the car seems a great idea for in city driving. I heard from a friend who test drove one that it's fast off the mark, will do 120Km/H on the highway easy, zips in and out of traffic..... easy to park and gets 80 miles to the gallon. I think they look cool for a car that small.... rear engine / rear wheel drive. BTW - It's Kraut/Yankee If you read the article you provided a link to, you would see that the cars must be modified by the stinking French *******s. The new Saturn Sky Roadster is also rear wheel drive and will skunk your Yugo knockoff death trap. The only thing going for that HOJ is its a diesel. Joe CM |
Capt. Mooron wrote:
"DSK" wrote in message Is CAD a graphic art? ;) NO!... it's a drafting / modeling application. Rot! CAD: Computor Aided Design; the operative word here being design. Some design is pure science, some is pure art, most is a bit of both. Show me a good designer and I'll show you an artist. Cheers Marty |
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"Dave" wrote in message ... On Thu, 03 Feb 2005 11:14:08 GMT, "Capt. Mooron" said: Doug... how the hell do you crash XP Pro.... I've tried on many occasions and so far have no managed to get my system to even lock up. I'm running a 2.4 Ghz, Asus Mobo, 1 Gig of ram ... overclocked. I regularly run several applications at the same time. Run Mozilla. It takes a few days, but it will lock up your XP machine. You have problems with Firefox???? CM |
"Joe" wrote in message If you read the article you provided a link to, you would see that the cars must be modified by the stinking French *******s. Whaddya mean.... the US is still deciding if it'll allow them in the country. Modify them yourselves as a condition of import. The new Saturn Sky Roadster is also rear wheel drive and will skunk your Yugo knockoff death trap. The only thing going for that HOJ is its a diesel. Whaddya mean "my"... I don't own one! Saturn makes the best family car, GMC makes the best 4x4 1/4 ton and Ford makes the best 1/2 ton. The 3/4 ton race is still in the air at this moment.... but it's a toss up between Ford and Dodge. CM |
Please try to follow along here Mooron.
The cars ya bragged about being sold in Canaduh (please see the first post of this thread by YOU) have to be modified by the stinking French before they are allowed in CANADUH your country. Ford makes the best trucks. Just bought me a classic. A 1961 Ford Econoline truck. Only made for 3 years. The whole body was hot dipped. This one I found on e-bay, been sittin in a barn for 13 years... original paint, 144 ci strait six and no rust. Hope to have it totally restored before summer. http://www.adclassix.com/images/61fordeconoline.jpg Also have a saturn as well..an SC. Scotty has a nice classic truck sitting on cinder blocks rotting away. What a redneck. Joe |
Try removing some of the critical registry items. If you need a list, let me
know. -- "j" ganz @@ www.sailnow.com "Capt. Mooron" wrote in message news:4InMd.98747$Ob.15174@edtnps84... Doug... how the hell do you crash XP Pro.... I've tried on many occasions and so far have no managed to get my system to even lock up. I'm running a 2.4 Ghz, Asus Mobo, 1 Gig of ram ... overclocked. I regularly run several applications at the same time. The last few months saw a steady decline in performance results from the benchmark tests so I decided to F-Disk the drive and now it's running fast and steady. CM "DSK" wrote in message ... Frank wrote: Well, actually, to change this from alt.sailing to alt.flight-software-controllers... Yes, I have flown in a couple of homebuilt aircraft using MS software. No fair! I said "Windows" specifically. Actually *if* set up correctly, NT isn't too bad for networked controllers. I don't know how to do it myself, but over the years I've built up a working list of pitfalls to avoid. The problem doing that with a car is that each entry on the punch list represents somebody's smash-up. Don't take this personally Frank, I switched from Mac to PC a few years ago and am still appalled at how often Windows 98, ME, SE, and XP crash. As soon as they quit buying me new computers every two years, I'm switching back... I have intense lust for a Velocity 4-place canard built by a guy I know in the XBox group. It's the perfect airplane. Sigh... One of these? http://www.velocityaircraft.com/airabout.html It definitely looks like a cool plane! If it had a VTOL option, then it'd be the *perfect* plane... ... And for sailing content, I've crewed on several boats using MS software. You're way ahead of me there. ... Just like I enjoyed getting my dividend check but didn't find it an adequate substitute for the stock performance I'd gotten used to in 90's. Income can easily be turned into growth, but growth can't so easily be turned into income. There was sure a lot of money to be made off the Y2K insanity; but I'm lazy. I value my time more than I value money, as long as I can put food on the table. And people were CRAZY during that silliness. Oh yes. Big time. They say it comes and goes in cycles. It's nice to get far enough up on the power curve that you can relax the money grabber. When young & poor, I threw away lots & lots of time to save a little money... fixing up boats was a prime example. Fresh Breezes- Doug King |
"Martin Baxter" wrote in message ... Capt. Mooron wrote: "DSK" wrote in message Is CAD a graphic art? ;) NO!... it's a drafting / modeling application. Rot! CAD: Computor Aided Design; the operative word here being design. Some design is pure science, some is pure art, most is a bit of both. It's a misnomer..... vector based and you provide the coordinates for it to plot.. 2D or 3D. Yes you can design from scratch.... but try and import a rastar based graphic to incorporate and your **** out of luck. It's utilzed in engineering.. not graphics. Show me a good designer and I'll show you an artist. Yeah?... I'll show you a good draftsman. CM |
"Joe" wrote Scotty has a nice classic truck sitting on cinder blocks rotting away. What a redneck. TWO of them, Joe, a '50 and a '53. One minimum is the law here. -- Scott Vernon Plowville Pa _/)__/)_/)_ |
Its a blast to drive, But your right... it takes some getting used to
sitting in front of the front wheels steering. Thats right, plastic hulls rott. Joe |
wrote: On 3 Feb 2005 13:30:52 -0800, "Joe" wrote: Its a blast to drive, But your right... it takes some getting used to sitting in front of the front wheels steering. No, that's not what I meant. The steering in those late 50's and early 60's Ford PU trucks and vans was horrible. By the time they were ten years old, the steering wheel had to be turned an eighth of a turn before the wheels started to change direction. BB You can adjust the slack out. And they make these things call tie-rod ends. Like any machine some parts wear out and must be replaced. Joe |
"Martin Baxter" wrote in message
Is CAD a graphic art? ;) NO!... it's a drafting / modeling application. Rot! CAD: Computor Aided Design; the operative word here being design. The operative term is 'Computer Aided'. The 'D' properly stands for 'Drafting'. CAD is an electronic drawing board - it doesn't contain 'design' tools, it contains 'drafting' tools. Some design is pure science, some is pure art, most is a bit of both. Good design is about finding solutions to address specific problems. Good drafting is about expressing or describing those solutions with sufficent competence for them to be implemented. Show me a good designer and I'll show you an artist. There are plenty of good designs that are badly drawn - because there are good designers that can't drive CAD (or draw) to save themselves. |
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