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Capt.American January 6th 05 07:08 PM

How many crew members is enough?
 
208 Haitians on 30-foot sailboat caught en route to U.S.

The Coast Guard has returned 208 Haitians to Port-au-Prince after
finding them jammed onto a "grossly overloaded" 30-foot sailboat that
apparently was in danger of capsizing.

A helicopter searching the Windward Passage, a route illegal migrants
take while going from Haiti to Florida, spotted the boat on Sunday.

After the Coast Guard cutter Vigorous arrived, two rescue boats were
sent to the Haitian vessel because 100 people were seen on the boat's
deck.

"The vessel was observed lolling -- making long, slow rolls --
indicating a stability-critical situation where capsizing was
possible," the Coast Guard said in a statement.

Crew members spent five hours transporting the Haitians to the cutter.
" In all, 159 men, 47 women and two children were rescued, all hungry
and thirsty and some seasick, but in otherwise good condition," the
Coast Guard said.


Overproof January 6th 05 07:15 PM

Crap... that would be one heck of a wide 30 foot sailboat!
Let's see..... roughly 1.5 tons of people with a 2 foot square area per
person average.... ???

I know how loaded my 30 footer was with 22 people aboard...... I doubt I
could have held twice as many... never mind 10 times as many.

CM


"Capt.American" wrote in message
ups.com...
208 Haitians on 30-foot sailboat caught en route to U.S.

The Coast Guard has returned 208 Haitians to Port-au-Prince after
finding them jammed onto a "grossly overloaded" 30-foot sailboat that
apparently was in danger of capsizing.

A helicopter searching the Windward Passage, a route illegal migrants
take while going from Haiti to Florida, spotted the boat on Sunday.

After the Coast Guard cutter Vigorous arrived, two rescue boats were
sent to the Haitian vessel because 100 people were seen on the boat's
deck.

"The vessel was observed lolling -- making long, slow rolls --
indicating a stability-critical situation where capsizing was
possible," the Coast Guard said in a statement.

Crew members spent five hours transporting the Haitians to the cutter.
" In all, 159 men, 47 women and two children were rescued, all hungry
and thirsty and some seasick, but in otherwise good condition," the
Coast Guard said.




Scott Vernon January 6th 05 10:24 PM

I wouldn't think it physically possible. Beside, why would anyone
want to come to this crummy country?

SV

"Overproof" wrote in message
news:G7gDd.53172$dv1.18168@edtnps89...
Crap... that would be one heck of a wide 30 foot sailboat!
Let's see..... roughly 1.5 tons of people with a 2 foot square

area per
person average.... ???

I know how loaded my 30 footer was with 22 people aboard...... I

doubt I
could have held twice as many... never mind 10 times as many.

CM


"Capt.American" wrote in message
ups.com...
208 Haitians on 30-foot sailboat caught en route to U.S.

The Coast Guard has returned 208 Haitians to Port-au-Prince after
finding them jammed onto a "grossly overloaded" 30-foot sailboat

that
apparently was in danger of capsizing.

A helicopter searching the Windward Passage, a route illegal

migrants
take while going from Haiti to Florida, spotted the boat on

Sunday.

After the Coast Guard cutter Vigorous arrived, two rescue boats

were
sent to the Haitian vessel because 100 people were seen on the

boat's
deck.

"The vessel was observed lolling -- making long, slow rolls --
indicating a stability-critical situation where capsizing was
possible," the Coast Guard said in a statement.

Crew members spent five hours transporting the Haitians to the

cutter.
" In all, 159 men, 47 women and two children were rescued, all

hungry
and thirsty and some seasick, but in otherwise good condition,"

the
Coast Guard said.






Joe January 6th 05 10:32 PM


Scott Vernon wrote:
I wouldn't think it physically possible. Beside, why would anyone
want to come to this crummy country?

SV


I hear you Scotty, I bet I could not get more than 362 people on my
boat. And my holding tank is only 45 gallons, and what food do you
serve? Drinks for everyone ect... Seems like to much hassle.

Joe









"Overproof" wrote in message
news:G7gDd.53172$dv1.18168@edtnps89...
Crap... that would be one heck of a wide 30 foot sailboat!
Let's see..... roughly 1.5 tons of people with a 2 foot square

area per
person average.... ???

I know how loaded my 30 footer was with 22 people aboard...... I

doubt I
could have held twice as many... never mind 10 times as many.

CM


"Capt.American" wrote in message
ups.com...
208 Haitians on 30-foot sailboat caught en route to U.S.

The Coast Guard has returned 208 Haitians to Port-au-Prince after
finding them jammed onto a "grossly overloaded" 30-foot sailboat

that
apparently was in danger of capsizing.

A helicopter searching the Windward Passage, a route illegal

migrants
take while going from Haiti to Florida, spotted the boat on

Sunday.

After the Coast Guard cutter Vigorous arrived, two rescue boats

were
sent to the Haitian vessel because 100 people were seen on the

boat's
deck.

"The vessel was observed lolling -- making long, slow rolls --
indicating a stability-critical situation where capsizing was
possible," the Coast Guard said in a statement.

Crew members spent five hours transporting the Haitians to the

cutter.
" In all, 159 men, 47 women and two children were rescued, all

hungry
and thirsty and some seasick, but in otherwise good condition,"

the
Coast Guard said.





Overproof January 6th 05 11:13 PM

Well for one... you are now importing Alberta Beef!!!

"Scott Vernon" wrote in message
...
I wouldn't think it physically possible. Beside, why would anyone
want to come to this crummy country?




John Deere January 6th 05 11:31 PM

Scott Vernon wrote:

I wouldn't think it physically possible. Beside, why would anyone
want to come to this crummy country?

SV


No one's keeping you here, in the USA. Leave tomorrow. Please.




Capt. Neal® January 7th 05 12:07 AM


Most Haitians haven't an ounce of body fat. You certainly cannot compare
them to the average, fat-assed Canadian or American.

The sloops they use are wooden and normally have internal ballast. This is all
tossed out so as many Haitians as possible can be carried. The average Haitian
probably weighs in at around 125 pounds wet.

In other words 200 Haitians = 100 Americans or about 75 Canadians.

CN

"Overproof" wrote in message news:G7gDd.53172$dv1.18168@edtnps89...
Crap... that would be one heck of a wide 30 foot sailboat!
Let's see..... roughly 1.5 tons of people with a 2 foot square area per
person average.... ???

I know how loaded my 30 footer was with 22 people aboard...... I doubt I
could have held twice as many... never mind 10 times as many.

CM


"Capt.American" wrote in message
ups.com...
208 Haitians on 30-foot sailboat caught en route to U.S.

The Coast Guard has returned 208 Haitians to Port-au-Prince after
finding them jammed onto a "grossly overloaded" 30-foot sailboat that
apparently was in danger of capsizing.

A helicopter searching the Windward Passage, a route illegal migrants
take while going from Haiti to Florida, spotted the boat on Sunday.

After the Coast Guard cutter Vigorous arrived, two rescue boats were
sent to the Haitian vessel because 100 people were seen on the boat's
deck.

"The vessel was observed lolling -- making long, slow rolls --
indicating a stability-critical situation where capsizing was
possible," the Coast Guard said in a statement.

Crew members spent five hours transporting the Haitians to the cutter.
" In all, 159 men, 47 women and two children were rescued, all hungry
and thirsty and some seasick, but in otherwise good condition," the
Coast Guard said.




Scott Vernon January 7th 05 12:11 AM


"John Deere" wrote in message
news:bHV0ZWZpc2s=.d91bf3a8f0febe2ebb293b5b29d8abdf @1105054264.nulluser
..com...
Scott Vernon wrote:

I wouldn't think it physically possible. Beside, why would anyone
want to come to this crummy country?

SV


No one's keeping you here, in the USA.


Yes they are, I have an electronic ankle bracelet.

SV



katysails January 7th 05 02:23 AM

It's best to believe Neal on this one...after all, he has so much experience
transporting them...( and you all thought he was in the Bahamas!)

"Capt. Neal®" wrote in message
...

Most Haitians haven't an ounce of body fat. You certainly cannot compare
them to the average, fat-assed Canadian or American.

The sloops they use are wooden and normally have internal ballast. This is
all
tossed out so as many Haitians as possible can be carried. The average
Haitian
probably weighs in at around 125 pounds wet.

In other words 200 Haitians = 100 Americans or about 75 Canadians.

CN

"Overproof" wrote in message
news:G7gDd.53172$dv1.18168@edtnps89...
Crap... that would be one heck of a wide 30 foot sailboat!
Let's see..... roughly 1.5 tons of people with a 2 foot square area
per
person average.... ???

I know how loaded my 30 footer was with 22 people aboard...... I doubt I
could have held twice as many... never mind 10 times as many.

CM


"Capt.American" wrote in message
ups.com...
208 Haitians on 30-foot sailboat caught en route to U.S.

The Coast Guard has returned 208 Haitians to Port-au-Prince after
finding them jammed onto a "grossly overloaded" 30-foot sailboat that
apparently was in danger of capsizing.

A helicopter searching the Windward Passage, a route illegal migrants
take while going from Haiti to Florida, spotted the boat on Sunday.

After the Coast Guard cutter Vigorous arrived, two rescue boats were
sent to the Haitian vessel because 100 people were seen on the boat's
deck.

"The vessel was observed lolling -- making long, slow rolls --
indicating a stability-critical situation where capsizing was
possible," the Coast Guard said in a statement.

Crew members spent five hours transporting the Haitians to the cutter.
" In all, 159 men, 47 women and two children were rescued, all hungry
and thirsty and some seasick, but in otherwise good condition," the
Coast Guard said.






Seahag January 7th 05 03:04 PM

Rats...I just deleted the photo someone sent me...it *was* a wide boat.

Seahag

"Overproof" wrote in message
news:G7gDd.53172$dv1.18168@edtnps89...
Crap... that would be one heck of a wide 30 foot sailboat!
Let's see..... roughly 1.5 tons of people with a 2 foot square area per
person average.... ???

I know how loaded my 30 footer was with 22 people aboard...... I doubt I
could have held twice as many... never mind 10 times as many.

CM


"Capt.American" wrote in message
ups.com...
208 Haitians on 30-foot sailboat caught en route to U.S.

The Coast Guard has returned 208 Haitians to Port-au-Prince after
finding them jammed onto a "grossly overloaded" 30-foot sailboat that
apparently was in danger of capsizing.

A helicopter searching the Windward Passage, a route illegal migrants
take while going from Haiti to Florida, spotted the boat on Sunday.

After the Coast Guard cutter Vigorous arrived, two rescue boats were
sent to the Haitian vessel because 100 people were seen on the boat's
deck.

"The vessel was observed lolling -- making long, slow rolls --
indicating a stability-critical situation where capsizing was
possible," the Coast Guard said in a statement.

Crew members spent five hours transporting the Haitians to the cutter.
" In all, 159 men, 47 women and two children were rescued, all hungry
and thirsty and some seasick, but in otherwise good condition," the
Coast Guard said.







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