You're welcome. Don't let the flamers get to you here. Most of the
regulars have been here for years and years and years so we are all used to
it (you develop a thick hide after awhile...) Sometimes you have to sift
through messages to get the answers you want or need...usually the first 3-4
replies to a question are valid and then the thread digresses...or
disintegrates...don't get discouraged. And if someone P's you O....make
sure you tell them so.

Rick wrote in message ...
On Sun, 02 Jan 2005 22:38:23 GMT, "katysails"
wrote:

In the spirit of friendship I offer this primer to the ng:
Scout, Haggie, Scotty, Loco,NoPony (steve), Doug are all Chesapeake and
surrounding areas sailors; Maxprop, John Cairns, myself and Horvath are
Great Lakes sailors (and Lonny when he has time to sail...)'; Bart I
believe
is in Connecticut or Massachusetts somewhere. I can't remember where
Jeff's
homeport is..but he sails Florida sometimes. Neal sits on a can in the
swampland surrounding the Bay of Florida; Bobsprit/BB sails in the matrix;
Jax is lost somewhere in the Bermuda Triangle; Thom is up by the Columbia
River in Oregon, which is also Michael's homeport when he's not on some
ship
somewhere that we can't mention; Mike and Lady Sailor live in CA but sail
Mexico, OZ and Taddy (Tadpole) and Peter Wiley are from various ports in
Australia; Nav (MC) is from New Zealand; Edgar's home port was in England
but now he lives in Norway; stevie summers and wally and Donal are all
from
great Britain; Martin is from Canada as is Mooron. Gilligan and all his
sockpuppets live in Colorado. It is up to you to figure out who his
puppets
are.

Thank you for the clarifications. Very thoughtful of you to provide
that primer.
Myself, I sail on Lake Winnipsaukee which is in New Hampshire. I
should rephrase that. I try to sail. I'm am very much a rookie.
I've wanted to seriously learn how to sail for many years, but until
this past year circumstances prevented it. Now I am in my second
childhood and have the sailing bug quite seriously. I own my own small
boat and am enjoying learning about it and doing things to it to
improve it. I plan to eventually move it t the ocean for sailing
around the Maine islands. I have no current desire to sail around the
world as so many new to sailing seem to, just some coastal cruising in
waters somewhat known to me.

Again, thank you for the clarification.

Rick, I'm about to post a more complete one... I notice that Katy left me
out completely. I live in Northern California, and sail (mostly) on the SF
bay.

--
"j" ganz @@
www.sailnow.com

Rick wrote in message ...
On Sun, 02 Jan 2005 22:38:23 GMT, "katysails"
wrote:

In the spirit of friendship I offer this primer to the ng:
Scout, Haggie, Scotty, Loco,NoPony (steve), Doug are all Chesapeake and
surrounding areas sailors; Maxprop, John Cairns, myself and Horvath are
Great Lakes sailors (and Lonny when he has time to sail...)'; Bart I
believe
is in Connecticut or Massachusetts somewhere. I can't remember where
Jeff's
homeport is..but he sails Florida sometimes. Neal sits on a can in the
swampland surrounding the Bay of Florida; Bobsprit/BB sails in the matrix;
Jax is lost somewhere in the Bermuda Triangle; Thom is up by the Columbia
River in Oregon, which is also Michael's homeport when he's not on some
ship
somewhere that we can't mention; Mike and Lady Sailor live in CA but sail
Mexico, OZ and Taddy (Tadpole) and Peter Wiley are from various ports in
Australia; Nav (MC) is from New Zealand; Edgar's home port was in England
but now he lives in Norway; stevie summers and wally and Donal are all
from
great Britain; Martin is from Canada as is Mooron. Gilligan and all his
sockpuppets live in Colorado. It is up to you to figure out who his
puppets
are.

Thank you for the clarifications. Very thoughtful of you to provide
that primer.
Myself, I sail on Lake Winnipsaukee which is in New Hampshire. I
should rephrase that. I try to sail. I'm am very much a rookie.
I've wanted to seriously learn how to sail for many years, but until
this past year circumstances prevented it. Now I am in my second
childhood and have the sailing bug quite seriously. I own my own small
boat and am enjoying learning about it and doing things to it to
improve it. I plan to eventually move it t the ocean for sailing
around the Maine islands. I have no current desire to sail around the
world as so many new to sailing seem to, just some coastal cruising in
waters somewhat known to me.

Again, thank you for the clarification.

"katysails" wrote in message ...
You're welcome. Don't let the flamers get to you here. Most of the
regulars have been here for years and years and years so we are all used to
it (I developed a thick hide like a walrus with lots of wrinkles after awhile...)

That explains it . . .

CN

"JG" wrote in message ...
Rick, I'm about to post a more complete one... I notice that Katy left me
out completely. I live in Northern California, and sail (mostly) on the SF
bay. And I'm gay!

--
"j" ganz @@
www.sailnow.com

Like putting a pup tent on a Ferrari.

CN


"Joe" wrote in message oups.com...

John Cairns wrote:
I could see something like this on my boat with the addition
of screens, to keep the bugs out.


http://www.sailnet.com/collections/a...eid=jkrets0063


Thats how I started John, And it aint worth the investment!

They leak ,fall apart, are hard to fit, mold, rott ect. And did I say
leak?, because if I did not, i better say it again, they LEAK!!!

If you want a dry wheelhouse you have to go with a total hard top.
My pilot house can be removed with 6 bolts and an afternoon's work...
and be put on the dock.

My Wheelhouse is always DRY,COOL or WARM. Large clear hatch to
stargaze, Huge rool up Sunbrella canvas sides and stern hatch, the
windshield open forward for great air flow. Great all around
visibility. And since we live aboard this is allot of extra...
enjoyable.... living space.

Infact if you search google images for "RedCloud sailboat" you will see
the top I ended up tossing in a dumpster.

Mark my word! Don't do it!

Joe



http://community.webshots.com/photo/...51754322gXYAOI

John Cairns

Capt. Neal=AE wrote:
Like putting a pup tent on a Ferrari.

CN

Yeah, And they LEAK....
Then in a storm ect the steam from evaporation ect sweats up the
plastic and it's a miserable soggy,slick, dripping sauna with poor
visability....a danger zone. And when not in use easy to damage,
scratch up, rip,zipper wear out ect.... and it is hard store.

Joe







"Joe" wrote in message
oups.com...

John Cairns wrote:
I could see something like this on my boat with the addition
of screens, to keep the bugs out.



http://www.sailnet.com/collections/a...d=3Djkrets0063


Thats how I started John, And it aint worth the investment!

They leak ,fall apart, are hard to fit, mold, rott ect. And did I
say
leak?, because if I did not, i better say it again, they LEAK!!!

If you want a dry wheelhouse you have to go with a total hard top.
My pilot house can be removed with 6 bolts and an afternoon's
work...
and be put on the dock.

My Wheelhouse is always DRY,COOL or WARM. Large clear hatch to
stargaze, Huge rool up Sunbrella canvas sides and stern hatch, the
windshield open forward for great air flow. Great all around
visibility. And since we live aboard this is allot of extra...
enjoyable.... living space.

Infact if you search google images for "RedCloud sailboat" you will
see
the top I ended up tossing in a dumpster.

Mark my word! Don't do it!

Joe



http://community.webshots.com/photo/...51754322gXYAOI
=20
John Cairns

That dripping 38 degree water sure makes it hard to enjoy.

If you do not have a dry comfy place to enjoy the view and pilot your
vessel.....it might make you think about this crazy thing those yankees
do, Shrink wrap your boat....Bwahahahahahah.

It was 64degrees new years night here. The fog has been thick all year
long...

Joe

"Joe" wrote in message oups.com...

That dripping 38 degree water sure makes it hard to enjoy.

If you do not have a dry comfy place to enjoy the view and pilot your
vessel.....it might make you think about this crazy thing those yankees
do, Shrink wrap your boat....Bwahahahahahah.

It was 64degrees new years night here. The fog has been thick all year
long...

Joe

Be thankful that otnmbrd and Shen44 do not ply their trade in your
neck of the woods. They don't slow down and they don't use or even
know the proper sound signals for sailing in a fog. They'd as soon
as run you down than look at you . . .

CN

In busy traffic lanes like the Houston Ship channel ships underway are
not required to sound fog signals or slow down.

Ship channels are the commerence way of our world and should not be
hampered by pleasure vessels at any time.

Every vessel in the channel should check in with USCG traffic control
and should be aware of all other inbound and outbound traffic as
informed by traffic controllers. This aint the 1860's ya know. Let's
keep out of the way of people at work.

Joe

that's cause you're supposed to stay in your closet when we have
company.

Scotty


"JG" wrote in message
...
... I notice that Katy left me
out completely.