You can hide behind misdirection. I said institutions have nothing
to do with the failing of individual humans as in hypocrisy. It
is you attempting to justify hypocrisy because hypocrites can
hide behind institutions. The fact is they can only hide from
people who wish to excuse their actions because they, themselves
are hypocrites. This is a liberal tactic which is used day in and
day out.

When I refer to the Catholic church I refer to the individual
members therein. I simply pointed out how individual Catholics
failed to stick to their roots and failed more miserably trying
to modernize. This is because the majority of Catholics are
hypocrites.

CN


"katysails" wrote in message ...
You can't make the statement that institutions have nothing to do with human
hypocrisy and then and then refer to the institution of the Church as if it
were an entity that makes its' own decisions....humans decide the fate of
the Church...the institution does not fail...it is the humans that fail the
institution that corrupt...

"Capt. Neal®" wrote in message
...

It is a human trait to point the finger at somebody else
instead of accepting their own culpability. Institutions
have nothing, whatsoever, to do with the manifestations
of human hypocrisy.

It just so happens that DSK is right for once. The Catholic
church has failed to stick to its roots but it has failed even
worse in its attempt to modernize.

CN



"katysails" wrote in message
...
people=institutions unfortunately, there are a lot of bad people that
hide
behind and even gain power in institutions. People don't discuss the good
that institutions do, they only like to look at the bad that the people
who
hide within them commit...

"DSK" wrote in message
.. .
Scott Vernon wrote:
AHA ! I knew it! You're ex catholic.

Me dear old Irish granny would be ashamed to hear you say that. She
claimed I was never Catholic, but rather a wild heathen that got
dragged
into the church regularly while still small enough.


... So is my wife. She left while
young, but still remembers the screwed up views.

IMHO the problem with the Catholic church is the same problem as with
most
churches... hypocracy. The main message is beautiful but the
application
is all greed & power.

OTOH unlike most other Christian church officials, the Pope will still
wash the feet of a beggar.


... Our church is all
about love , giving, sharing, human kindness, etc..


It's a shining example to others, then!

DSK

I do not justify hypocrisy. I abhor hypocrisy. The institution is not
hypocritical, it is the people within who create the hypocrisy. The
majority of people who make up the institution, though, are not. They lead
silent lives dedicated to their belief system, built on faith, even though
there are wolves among them.

"Capt. Neal®" wrote in message
...


You can hide behind misdirection. I said institutions have nothing
to do with the failing of individual humans as in hypocrisy. It
is you attempting to justify hypocrisy because hypocrites can
hide behind institutions. The fact is they can only hide from
people who wish to excuse their actions because they, themselves
are hypocrites. This is a liberal tactic which is used day in and
day out.

When I refer to the Catholic church I refer to the individual
members therein. I simply pointed out how individual Catholics
failed to stick to their roots and failed more miserably trying
to modernize. This is because the majority of Catholics are
hypocrites.

CN


"katysails" wrote in message
...
You can't make the statement that institutions have nothing to do with
human
hypocrisy and then and then refer to the institution of the Church as if
it
were an entity that makes its' own decisions....humans decide the fate of
the Church...the institution does not fail...it is the humans that fail
the
institution that corrupt...

"Capt. Neal®" wrote in message
...

It is a human trait to point the finger at somebody else
instead of accepting their own culpability. Institutions
have nothing, whatsoever, to do with the manifestations
of human hypocrisy.

It just so happens that DSK is right for once. The Catholic
church has failed to stick to its roots but it has failed even
worse in its attempt to modernize.

CN



"katysails" wrote in message
...
people=institutions unfortunately, there are a lot of bad people
that
hide
behind and even gain power in institutions. People don't discuss the
good
that institutions do, they only like to look at the bad that the
people
who
hide within them commit...

"DSK" wrote in message
.. .
Scott Vernon wrote:
AHA ! I knew it! You're ex catholic.

Me dear old Irish granny would be ashamed to hear you say that. She
claimed I was never Catholic, but rather a wild heathen that got
dragged
into the church regularly while still small enough.


... So is my wife. She left while
young, but still remembers the screwed up views.

IMHO the problem with the Catholic church is the same problem as
with
most
churches... hypocracy. The main message is beautiful but the
application
is all greed & power.

OTOH unlike most other Christian church officials, the Pope will
still
wash the feet of a beggar.


... Our church is all
about love , giving, sharing, human kindness, etc..


It's a shining example to others, then!

DSK