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Capt. Neal® December 28th 04 05:29 PM

46 retirements
 
I can see why! Somebody needs to teach those ******s how to bend
on a balanced sail plan and to get a boat with some staying power
in storm conditions.

CN


OzOne wrote in message ...
From a fleet of 116 in a savage Sydney Hobart race.

http://rolexsydneyhobart.com//default.asp?key=521


Oz1...of the 3 twins.

I welcome you to crackerbox palace,We've been expecting you.


Joe December 28th 04 05:44 PM

It's amazing. Almost half have thrown in the towel.

What a bunch of wussies. Here you dont quit until your de-masted, or
sunk, why take the risk to race far offshore if your not ready for the
worst. They must all be sailing flimsey junk or they just can not meet
the challenge, or both.

I suspect most are rich spoiled weekend warriors that bit off a might
bit to much than they can chew and a rolling in vomit on the main cabin
soles. But I bet the crews are wearing spiffy matching sailor suits.

Bwahahahahahah
Joe
MSV RedCloud- Never ever failed to finish a race.

Oh well


DSK December 28th 04 05:49 PM

Joe wrote:
It's amazing. Almost half have thrown in the towel.


The 'retired' list is 56 as of last report.


What a bunch of wussies.


Hardly.

... Here you dont quit until your de-masted, or
sunk,


Why don't you tell us about some of the offshore races you've sailed
personally, Joe.



I suspect most are rich spoiled weekend warriors


I suspect that you have no friggin' clue what you're talking about.


MSV RedCloud- Never ever failed to finish a race.


And how many is that, exactly?

More to the point, tell us how many races she's finished in 40+ knot
winds and 20+ foot breaking seas? For that matter, how often have you
sailed *any* boat in those conditions?

Fresh Breezes (to them wot kin use 'em)- Doug King


Joe December 28th 04 06:13 PM

Well Doug I've raced RedCloud in 3 Harvest Moon regetta around 250 mi
in the gulf and we had 12-15 footers... rails in the water , a few
boats other boats were de-masted and we kept racing I have no doubt
another 5 foot would have had much more affect. Our best was a third in
our class.

Many many week night bay races with winds higher than 40 knots, thats
why I have reefing points in my sails and several head sails.

Are you telling me that anyone who enters Hobart race should not
expect strong winds and large seas?

Joe


Capt. Neal® December 28th 04 08:58 PM

Face the facts, Oz! This years Hobart demonstrated how fragile racing boats
are and how dangerous it is to go to sea in them. It also shows a disregard for
life and limb and a disrespect for the sea.

It's not racing, it's stupidity and arrogance to think those flimsy boats even
have any business at sea. Keep them running round the buoys in a nice safe
harbor and they will be marginally acceptable. Allow them to go offshore
in one of the worlds roughest bodies of water and they will not be up to
the task.

Believe it!

CN


OzOne wrote in message ...
On Tue, 28 Dec 2004 12:29:09 -0500, Capt. Neal®
scribbled thusly:

I can see why! Somebody needs to teach those ******s how to bend
on a balanced sail plan and to get a boat with some staying power
in storm conditions.

CN


Yeah, and I can see that you've never raced a boat in your life, have
no idea what a challenge is,and have no experience sailing in anything
like what these guys are getting......hell, you wouldn't be here if
you had!


Oz1...of the 3 twins.

I welcome you to crackerbox palace,We've been expecting you.



John Cairns December 28th 04 09:11 PM


OzOne wrote in message ...
From a fleet of 116 in a savage Sydney Hobart race.

http://rolexsydneyhobart.com//default.asp?key=521


Oz1...of the 3 twins.

I welcome you to crackerbox palace,We've been expecting you.


http://www.toledoyachtclub.com/Mills...RE-REVISED.pdf

They had 53 either didn't start or withdrew. Out of 165. Horvath did this
one. Pretty nasty from what I've been told.

John Cairns



JG December 28th 04 09:17 PM

Neal's only challenge is to pretend well. Sadly, he can't even do that well.

--
"j" ganz @@
www.sailnow.com

OzOne wrote in message ...
On Tue, 28 Dec 2004 12:29:09 -0500, Capt. Neal®
scribbled thusly:

I can see why! Somebody needs to teach those ******s how to bend
on a balanced sail plan and to get a boat with some staying power
in storm conditions.

CN


Yeah, and I can see that you've never raced a boat in your life, have
no idea what a challenge is,and have no experience sailing in anything
like what these guys are getting......hell, you wouldn't be here if
you had!


Oz1...of the 3 twins.

I welcome you to crackerbox palace,We've been expecting you.




John Cairns December 28th 04 09:40 PM


"Capt. Neal®" wrote in message
...

It's not racing, it's stupidity and arrogance to think those flimsy boats
even
have any business at sea. Keep them running round the buoys in a nice safe
harbor and they will be marginally acceptable. Allow them to go offshore
in one of the worlds roughest bodies of water and they will not be up to
the task.

Believe it!

CN


This is hilarious, unintentionally, of course
..
http://community.webshots.com/photo/...29756597HYYFzU

Now, 25-30 kts. isn't a whole lot of wind, but we had a schedule to keep,
guess who we left in the harbor at san sal?

http://community.webshots.com/photo/...29752889EEUQzM

A Bristol 45.5

http://community.webshots.com/photo/...29752930zQMnIr

A Shannon 38

These folks allowed that they were going to wait for the weather to settle
down. They were/are cruisers, they sail cruising boats. If the Sydney-Hobart
event had been a cruising rally like the Carribbean 1500, for example, NO
ONE WOULD HAVE LEFT PORT. Btw, a fair % of the boat that do the
Sydney-Hobart RACE are cruising boats.

John Cairns



OzOne wrote in message
...
On Tue, 28 Dec 2004 12:29:09 -0500, Capt. Neal®
scribbled thusly:

I can see why! Somebody needs to teach those ******s how to bend
on a balanced sail plan and to get a boat with some staying power
in storm conditions.

CN


Yeah, and I can see that you've never raced a boat in your life, have
no idea what a challenge is,and have no experience sailing in anything
like what these guys are getting......hell, you wouldn't be here if
you had!


Oz1...of the 3 twins.

I welcome you to crackerbox palace,We've been expecting you.





Horvath December 28th 04 10:21 PM

On Tue, 28 Dec 2004 21:11:11 GMT, "John Cairns"
wrote this crap:


http://www.toledoyachtclub.com/Mills...RE-REVISED.pdf

They had 53 either didn't start or withdrew. Out of 165. Horvath did this
one. Pretty nasty from what I've been told.

John Cairns



I've seen worse.






Pathetic Earthlings! No one can save you now!

Joe December 28th 04 10:29 PM


wrote:
On 28 Dec 2004 10:13:13 -0800, "Joe" wrote:

... rails in the water


Both rails? Turn on your bilge pump, dummy!

BB


Not at the same time brainiac.

Joe



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