Oh Jeez,

What's next? A discussion of dowsing?

CN


"Thom Stewart" wrote in message ...
John,

It is rather simple, stick the thumb into the folded fingers to the
first knuckle and hold it at arms length. That will give you a 10 degree
spread. Each knuckle is two degrees. Top of the knuckle to the hollow
between 1 degree, half way up or down is a 1/2 degree. If your sighting
is between I say plus or minus. ( When voyaging, a 1/2 degree will get
you to 30 miles. A minus gets you inside 30, a plus over 30.

To Calib. your fist and arm, stand in the corner of a room and count how
many fist it takes to get 90 degrees. Ten should do it for most people
but it will let you know what your fist represents

Kind of a fun and easy way to check out things that are happening around
you.

So as of tomorrow the Sun will be 23 1/2 degrees below the Equator.
Subtract that from your local GMT Noon reading and you should have your
local Latitude.

Not sure where your located but St John is about 45 degrees (4&1/2
fists) minus
2 fists and 1 & 1/2 knuckles should be the local sighting (2 Fists and 1
knckle)
Give it a try and a laugh at Ole Thom

You might want to rethink this Jeff. I know someone who met Neal. It was not
a positive experience.

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"j" ganz @@
www.sailnow.com

"Jeff Morris" wrote in message
...
Scott Vernon wrote:
"Jeff Morris" wrote

New England is having a little snow storm now, so it will be a White
Christmas around here. I, however, am headed for Florida in a few

days!

Taking Neal his present?

Ya know, I would really love to meet Neal, even at the risk of providing
him with great fodder for future posts! However, we'll be up in Boca
Raton - a side trip down to Key West would be about 200 miles, with CN
about half way. I'm not sure we'll make it, but if Neal would like to put
us up for a few days, we could be tempted! My daughter would love to go
swimming off a boat again!

And a good morning to you CN.

Got chilly here last night. 36 F this morning when I woke up.

Still a lot better than the "Lakes" or New England but your area got it
all over us

Have a good day;

Ole Thom

Jeff Morris wrote:
You're jumping the gun a bit, Thom. The precise moment of the 2004
solstice will be December 21, 2004 at 7:42 A.M. EST (12:42 UT).

Tomorrow has the least daylight for those of us in the North, it has
the most for our inverted brethren down South.

However, it does not have the latest/earliest sunrise/sunset as one
might expect. Since the actual time of local noon varies up to 15
minutes through the year, the earliest sunset up North is about Dec. 8,
the latest sunrise is about Jan 5. If this doesn't make sense, search
on "equation of time" or check out:
http://www.astronomynotes.com/nakedeye/s9.htm

New England is having a little snow storm now, so it will be a White
Christmas around here. I, however, am headed for Florida in a few
days!

I notice that you sent the winter weather ahead of you. It was almost
freezing in parts of the state last night and tonight the cold should be
colder. Freezing might make it south of Orlando.



Happy Solstice, Everyone!

-jeff
"Coasting with the motion of the ocean" -Hawaiian Roller Coaster Ride


Thom Stewart wrote:
Oh Happy Day,

The Sun has stopped its' travel south. Getting ready for it march
north. I got a
23 degree plus reading at Noon today

A sunny day in the Northwest. 92 days for the Sun to reach the Equator

AND; I'LL DRINK TO THAT!

Ole Thom

Bell wrote:
Jeff Morris wrote:
New England is having a little snow storm now, so it will be a White
Christmas around here. I, however, am headed for Florida in a few
days!


I notice that you sent the winter weather ahead of you. It was almost
freezing in parts of the state last night and tonight the cold should be
colder. Freezing might make it south of Orlando.

I was not pleased when I saw that the high today in Boca (26N!) is in
the 50's. Maybe by the time we get there it will be up to 70. On our
trip we crossed over into FL on Christmas Eve and the temp was about 40,
headed down to 25F. All the was south we had been telling our daughter
it would get warmer when we got to Florida - we had to explain that this
was "the cold Florida." It did finally warm up in mid-January when we
were around Vero Beach.

Ole Thom.. thanks.. but I need more help..
If I was in St.John's 45 degrees N
How many fists/knuckles would the Sun be from the
horizon at Noon?
And please continue the calculation.. step by step.

And when voyaging how does one knuckle 2 degrees
equal 30 miles.. ?

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Longing to be closer to to the sun, the wind and the sea!
Spiritually at: Latitude 21 degrees 19' 9" North. _!_
Longtitude 157 degrees 56' 31" West. Aloha! ___o_(_)_o___
q

Oue well was dowsed...

"Capt. Neal®" wrote in message
...
Oh Jeez,

What's next? A discussion of dowsing?

CN


"Thom Stewart" wrote in message
...
John,

It is rather simple, stick the thumb into the folded fingers to the
first knuckle and hold it at arms length. That will give you a 10 degree
spread. Each knuckle is two degrees. Top of the knuckle to the hollow
between 1 degree, half way up or down is a 1/2 degree. If your sighting
is between I say plus or minus. ( When voyaging, a 1/2 degree will get
you to 30 miles. A minus gets you inside 30, a plus over 30.

To Calib. your fist and arm, stand in the corner of a room and count how
many fist it takes to get 90 degrees. Ten should do it for most people
but it will let you know what your fist represents

Kind of a fun and easy way to check out things that are happening around
you.

So as of tomorrow the Sun will be 23 1/2 degrees below the Equator.
Subtract that from your local GMT Noon reading and you should have your
local Latitude.

Not sure where your located but St John is about 45 degrees (4&1/2
fists) minus
2 fists and 1 & 1/2 knuckles should be the local sighting (2 Fists and 1
knckle)
Give it a try and a laugh at Ole Thom

oh shut up...

OzOne wrote in message ...
On Mon, 20 Dec 2004 10:51:17 -0800, (Thom Stewart)
scribbled thusly:

And a good morning to you CN.

Got chilly here last night. 36 F this morning when I woke up.

Still a lot better than the "Lakes" or New England but your area got it
all over us

Have a good day;

Ole Thom

25C forecast for here today, low humidity and glorious for the next
week.


Oz1...of the 3 twins.

I welcome you to crackerbox palace,We've been expecting you.

Jeff Morris wrote:
Bell wrote:
Jeff Morris wrote:
New England is having a little snow storm now, so it will be a White
Christmas around here. I, however, am headed for Florida in a few
days!


I notice that you sent the winter weather ahead of you. It was almost
freezing in parts of the state last night and tonight the cold should
be colder. Freezing might make it south of Orlando.

I was not pleased when I saw that the high today in Boca (26N!) is in
the 50's. Maybe by the time we get there it will be up to 70. On our
trip we crossed over into FL on Christmas Eve and the temp was about
40, headed down to 25F. All the was south we had been telling our
daughter it would get warmer when we got to Florida - we had to
explain that this was "the cold Florida." It did finally warm up in
mid-January when we were around Vero Beach.

NOAA says it will be warmer at Christmas

http://www.srh.noaa.gov/forecasts/FL...ity=Boca+Raton

john,

I told you WRONG. Distance between knuckles is 2 1/2 degrees

45 minus 23 1/2=21.5 That would be
2 fists and 1 3/4 knuckles observed on the Noon gmt sighting

On the 30 mile would be a 5/8 of a Knuckle. a little better than halfway
between the top of a knuckle and the hollow between Knuckles.

Each knuckle to knuckle is 21/2 degrees=150 miles
Knuckle to hollow between knuckles=11/4 degree or 75 miles
Half that distance (knuckle to hollow) 5/8degree=27 miles

You can set them up;
Fist is 10 degrees
Distance between Knuckles is 2 1/2 degrees; 1/2 a fist is 5 degrees

When talking miles it is really rough ballpark figures but will get you
within 30 miles

Get your Fist out there and then you figure the fractions of that
observed fist