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Jeff Morris
 
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otnmbrd wrote:
This is becoming clearer.
My read of this is that "A" was coming clear of a buoyed channel into an
"open" stretch of water when it met "B" and the subsequent collision
occurred in the "open" stretch of water (Inland Rules in force), not the
buoyed channel. (still not 100% sure on this, but g close)


I was under the impression that the collision actually occurred in the
channel, but they were not specific.


Of the CG findings:
a,b,c, no problem.
d G Unless you're a military vessel, having extra hands to take
compass bearings, other than eyeball, and the value of them if vessels
are not maintaining course is interpretive, but this is a rule 2 "gotcha".


I'm always surprised that every fog situation reveals that contacts are
not formally plotted, not that I've ever done it, other than for
practice! When shorthanded in the fog there are more important things
to do than play with a grease pencil.


e debatable, but, understandable.


Piling on. Or maybe they felt the A started to move prematurely.


In answer to your feelings regarding the vessel entering the channel
from the side .... It is going to depend on the exact location of the
meeting. If the two vessels will be meeting IN the buoyed channel, then
that vessel (entering) will be required not to impede the vessel in the
channel. However if the meeting will occur in the approaches to the
channel, then the vessels will have to address the "normal" rules.


Yes, but that leaves a gray area. In this case, A must slow before the
meeting, because its not clear whether B is going to turn.




As to the proposal/acceptance aspect. Although I can see the courts
stepped decision regarding which rules take priority when assessing
blame (you haven't stated how much "B" was held liable and for what),


The was no mention of blame assigned to B. Although everyone talks
about how blame is always shared, I think that's a bit of a myth.
Somewhere I have the breakdown on this ...

I
would argue that at the point that the 2 blast signals where exchanged,
this became in effect a passing situation with everyone in agreement and
now both vessels should be maneuvering under that agreement .... and
here, this goes to possible responsibility on "B".


So you're claiming that two whistles would not be used in a crossing
situation where the give-way vessel thinks it can pass cleanly in front
of the stand-on? In that case, the stand-on vessel should not be
required to alter course. I believe the courts are saying that this
situation was a crossing from first sighting to collision.
 
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