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hen two power-driven vessels are crossing, which
vessel has the right of way?

A. The vessel which is to starboard of the other vessel.
B. The vessel which is to port of the other vessel.
C. The larger vessel.
D. The vessel that sounds the first whistle signal.
E. Neither.


E.

Wrong! A vessel that has another on its own starboard bow
is the give-way vessel.

As always, you are correct!

It follows that the other vessel has
the right of way.

Wrong.


It's right of way makes it the stand-on
vessel.

Nope!!



I can't figure what's so hard for some people to understand
about this.

Why not?

Don't you understand that the Coll Regs also state that all vessels must
take any necessary action to avoid a collision?

There is NO right of way under the Coll Regs. I'm surprised that you seem
to know as little about the Coll Regs as Shen, or Joe.


Regards


Donal
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"Capt. Neal®" wrote in message
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"Donal" wrote in message
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"Bart Senior" wrote in message
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BOTH INTERNATIONAL and INLAND

hen two power-driven vessels are crossing, which
vessel has the right of way?

A. The vessel which is to starboard of the other vessel.
B. The vessel which is to port of the other vessel.
C. The larger vessel.
D. The vessel that sounds the first whistle signal.
E. Neither.


E.

Wrong! A vessel that has another on its own starboard bow
is the give-way vessel.

As always, you are correct!

It follows that the other vessel has
the right of way.

Wrong.


It's right of way makes it the stand-on
vessel.

Nope!!



I can't figure what's so hard for some people to understand
about this.

Why not?

Don't you understand that the Coll Regs also state that all vessels must
take any necessary action to avoid a collision?

There is NO right of way under the Coll Regs. I'm surprised that you seem
to know as little about the Coll Regs as Shen, or Joe.

And don't YOU realize that in the COLREGS all vessels must
follow the Rules that apply. In the case of stand-on and
give-way the stand on vessel is required to stand on and
the give-way vessel is required to give way. Only if the
give-way vessel does not follow the rules and causes
a close quarters situation where there is a possibility
of a collision is the stand-on vessel allowed to deviate
from the Rules.

This means the stand-on vessel has the right of way. That
it is not granted the right of way does not make the fact
of its right of way any less so.

CN

There is NO right of way under the Coll Regs. I'm surprised that you seem
to know as little about the Coll Regs as Shen, or Joe.


Awwwww geee, Donal. I thumpt I was doing pretty good.

Shen

"Capt. Neal®" wrote in message
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"Donal" wrote in message
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Don't you understand that the Coll Regs also state that all vessels must
take any necessary action to avoid a collision?

There is NO right of way under the Coll Regs. I'm surprised that you
seem
to know as little about the Coll Regs as Shen, or Joe.

And don't YOU realize that in the COLREGS all vessels must
follow the Rules that apply. In the case of stand-on and
give-way the stand on vessel is required to stand on and
the give-way vessel is required to give way. Only if the
give-way vessel does not follow the rules and causes
a close quarters situation where there is a possibility
of a collision is the stand-on vessel allowed to deviate
from the Rules.

Wrong!!!!

In these circumstances, the "stand on" vessel is not *allowed* to deviate,
it is *required* to deviate from the rules.


Regards


Donal
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"Donal" wrote in message ...

"Capt. Neal®" wrote in message
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"Donal" wrote in message
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Don't you understand that the Coll Regs also state that all vessels must
take any necessary action to avoid a collision?

There is NO right of way under the Coll Regs. I'm surprised that you
seem
to know as little about the Coll Regs as Shen, or Joe.

And don't YOU realize that in the COLREGS all vessels must
follow the Rules that apply. In the case of stand-on and
give-way the stand on vessel is required to stand on and
the give-way vessel is required to give way. Only if the
give-way vessel does not follow the rules and causes
a close quarters situation where there is a possibility
of a collision is the stand-on vessel allowed to deviate
from the Rules.

Wrong!!!!

In these circumstances, the "stand on" vessel is not *allowed* to deviate,
it is *required* to deviate from the rules.


Semantics! I could argue in the same vane and say there is no rule
countermanding the captains actions as long as whatever action
he took avoided the collision. The caption is the final authority-
not the rules.

CN