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remember Pearl
Here's to all the brave men who lost their lives that day, and to
those that followed to push back the yellow menace. Salute. December 7, 1941, a date which will live in infamy...FDR |
"Scott Vernon" wrote in message
... Here's to all the brave men who lost their lives that day, and to those that followed to push back the yellow menace. Salute. December 7, 1941, a date which will live in infamy...FDR Yes! I had the good fortune to work for and with some of those men. Nothing I have seen in newsreels and history presentations really describes the heroism they displayed. Each individual has a story in which heroism was the rule of the day from firing on strafing planes with .45s to matching arms and legs bodies to put into caskets. Let us remember with a vow to face our present day threats with the same courage and a one finger salute to terrorism. And that Bin Ladin is still on the loose ..... |
Scott Vernon wrote:
Here's to all the brave men who lost their lives that day, and to those that followed to push back the yellow menace. Salute. December 7, 1941, a date which will live in infamy...FDR Yep. I was down at the college early this morning for "colors" with the local NROTC. Thanks for remembering. This might provide some interesting reading: http://www.history.navy.mil/faqs/faq66-1.htm Regards Doug King |
Scott Vernon wrote: Here's to all the brave men who lost their lives that day, and to those that followed to push back the yellow menace. Salute. Ill second that Scotty! We all should propose a toast to our resident WWII sailor.. Ole Thom. Joe December 7, 1941, a date which will live in infamy...FDR |
My uncle nearly died at Pearl. Refuses to talk about it.
-- "j" ganz @@ www.sailnow.com "Scott Vernon" wrote in message ... Here's to all the brave men who lost their lives that day, and to those that followed to push back the yellow menace. Salute. December 7, 1941, a date which will live in infamy...FDR |
Jonathan G an z wrote: My uncle nearly died at Pearl. Refuses to talk about it. Well you ought to get him to talk about it. I sugest recording the conversation. And I suggest you do it soon, or his story will be forgotten. Do you know anything about what happened to him? Joe -- "j" ganz @@ www.sailnow.com "Scott Vernon" wrote in message ... Here's to all the brave men who lost their lives that day, and to those that followed to push back the yellow menace. Salute. December 7, 1941, a date which will live in infamy...FDR |
Thanks Group,
Dec.,7th, 1941 was the day that Branded my generation. Us Old Timers vowed to make the bad things in our world better. We thought we did. Trouble with living so long, is seeing that we created other problems. SORRY Thanks for Rememdering Pearl Harbor! Ole Thom |
Sorry, Old Chap, but Pearl Harbor means almost nothing
these days. It's ancient history that's not even being taught in the liberal public schools anymore. It's a good thing people of your age were not like many of the people my age whom I am ashamed of. People like that war-protesting ******* John Kerry and Jane Fonda and Michael Moore and even Bobsprit are still pulling their crap even to this day. They learned nothing from Pearl Harbor. All they learned to do is shirk their responsibility and whine and complain and engage in anti-American activities. They spit in the faces of WWII vets like yourself. Would that my generation had the guts and moral fiber of yours. The world would be much better off. Thank God that the 18-28 year-old generation, for the most part has embraced patriotic activity again and are willing to fight so we all can remain free. Hope remains for a better future. Your example has helped inspire these young patriots. So, don't ever apologize for your service to this country just because there were future consequences beyond your control. Respectfully, Capt. Neal ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ "Thom Stewart" wrote in message ... Thanks Group, Dec.,7th, 1941 was the day that Branded my generation. Us Old Timers vowed to make the bad things in our world better. We thought we did. Trouble with living so long, is seeing that we created other problems. SORRY Thanks for Rememdering Pearl Harbor! Ole Thom |
He was in the barracks that morning. Got up early, although that wasn't
typical for him.. a late riser all his life. Went out for a smoke, and the barracks was hit. Killed a bunch of his friends. He wouldn't say much more than that, but to this day, he's up early. Probably won't last much longer. He's diabetic and on dialysis. -- "j" ganz @@ www.sailnow.com wrote in message oups.com... Jonathan G an z wrote: My uncle nearly died at Pearl. Refuses to talk about it. Well you ought to get him to talk about it. I sugest recording the conversation. And I suggest you do it soon, or his story will be forgotten. Do you know anything about what happened to him? Joe -- "j" ganz @@ www.sailnow.com "Scott Vernon" wrote in message ... Here's to all the brave men who lost their lives that day, and to those that followed to push back the yellow menace. Salute. December 7, 1941, a date which will live in infamy...FDR |
Thanks, Thom. Sure was simpler back then, eh?
Cheers Scotty "Thom Stewart" wrote in message ... Thanks Group, Dec.,7th, 1941 was the day that Branded my generation. Us Old Timers vowed to make the bad things in our world better. We thought we did. Trouble with living so long, is seeing that we created other problems. SORRY Thanks for Rememdering Pearl Harbor! Ole Thom |
You are such a dope. A motorcycle made in 1975 in Japan has nothing to do with Pearl Harbor. Besides, you Harley Davidson people are so stupid you don't even realize more than half the part on your so-called American bike are made in Japan, China, Taiwan, Mexico etc. There is no such thing as an American motorcycle anymore. What a DICK! CN wrote in message ... On Tue, 7 Dec 2004 14:46:13 -0500, Capt. Neal® wrote: Sorry, Old Chap, but Pearl Harbor means almost nothing these days. It's ancient history that's not even being taught in the liberal public schools anymore. It's a good thing people of your age were not like many of the people my age whom I am ashamed of. People like that war-protesting ******* John Kerry and Jane Fonda and Michael Moore and even Bobsprit are still pulling their crap even to this day. They learned nothing from Pearl Harbor. All they learned to do is shirk their responsibility and whine and complain and engage in anti-American activities. Says the dope who has been boasting all day about his Japanese motorcycle and how he thinks it can whip any American motorcycle. What a fine way to observe PEARL HARBOR DAY. BB |
Thom Stewart wrote:
Thanks Group, Dec.,7th, 1941 was the day that Branded my generation. Us Old Timers vowed to make the bad things in our world better. We thought we did. Trouble with living so long, is seeing that we created other problems. SORRY Thanks for Rememdering Pearl Harbor! Thank YOU, Thom! A few years back I met an old man in an airport. We were both waiting for flights. This fellow was wearing a Navy ballcap that said "BB-37 USS Oklahoma" across the front. I went over and introduced myself as a Navy vet. We chatted politely for a little while. His daughter, who was traveling with him, prompted me to ask him about Pearl Harbor. He said it didn't bother him to talk about it, and he was on the Oklahoma that morning. For those of you who don't know much about the attack on Pearl Harbor, here is a brief summary- the carriers, obviously the highest priority targets, were elsewhere... that left the battleships sitting in a row, obviously the biggest prizes. http://www.history.navy.mil/photos/e...hbr/ph-bba.htm The USS Arizona went down, a few anti-aircraft guns firing defiantly, but she was a blazing wreck with 2,000+ casualties. The USS Maryland was hit hard and it took almost 2 years to repair her. The USS Oklahoma was hit almost as hard as the Arizona, and capsized in her berth. Hundreds of men were trapped inside. My acquaintance at the airport was one of those men. He said, "You've been in damage control training, so you can imagine what it was like." Actually, I could barely picture it, and still get cold chills thinking about it. Absolutely dark, locked in a small metal compartment filled with loose equipment, filling up with oily water. He said, "I honestly don't remember most of what happened... probably a blessing. I woke up in the hospital." This is day for remembering & honoring all who have made a sacrifice for this country, and for our freedoms. Sincerely Douglas S. King ex-BT1(SW) |
My respect for you, Mr. King, just went up several notches.
But, it still won't keep me from slamming you for being a motorboater. CN "DSK" wrote in message . .. Thom Stewart wrote: Thanks Group, Dec.,7th, 1941 was the day that Branded my generation. Us Old Timers vowed to make the bad things in our world better. We thought we did. Trouble with living so long, is seeing that we created other problems. SORRY Thanks for Rememdering Pearl Harbor! Thank YOU, Thom! A few years back I met an old man in an airport. We were both waiting for flights. This fellow was wearing a Navy ballcap that said "BB-37 USS Oklahoma" across the front. I went over and introduced myself as a Navy vet. We chatted politely for a little while. His daughter, who was traveling with him, prompted me to ask him about Pearl Harbor. He said it didn't bother him to talk about it, and he was on the Oklahoma that morning. For those of you who don't know much about the attack on Pearl Harbor, here is a brief summary- the carriers, obviously the highest priority targets, were elsewhere... that left the battleships sitting in a row, obviously the biggest prizes. http://www.history.navy.mil/photos/e...hbr/ph-bba.htm The USS Arizona went down, a few anti-aircraft guns firing defiantly, but she was a blazing wreck with 2,000+ casualties. The USS Maryland was hit hard and it took almost 2 years to repair her. The USS Oklahoma was hit almost as hard as the Arizona, and capsized in her berth. Hundreds of men were trapped inside. My acquaintance at the airport was one of those men. He said, "You've been in damage control training, so you can imagine what it was like." Actually, I could barely picture it, and still get cold chills thinking about it. Absolutely dark, locked in a small metal compartment filled with loose equipment, filling up with oily water. He said, "I honestly don't remember most of what happened... probably a blessing. I woke up in the hospital." This is day for remembering & honoring all who have made a sacrifice for this country, and for our freedoms. Sincerely Douglas S. King ex-BT1(SW) |
I'm a Korean War veteran and I can tell you I never let one of those Japs
into my heating, ventilation and air conditioning company I owned in Alhambra, California. Lloyd Bonafide "Scott Vernon" wrote in message ... Here's to all the brave men who lost their lives that day, and to those that followed to push back the yellow menace. Salute. December 7, 1941, a date which will live in infamy...FDR |
Oh yeah! But you look up Margaret Gray's skirt whilst she's
singing a song. Shame on you LLoyd! CN "LLoyd Bonafide" wrote in message ink.net... I'm a Korean War veteran and I can tell you I never let one of those Japs into my heating, ventilation and air conditioning company I owned in Alhambra, California. Lloyd Bonafide "Scott Vernon" wrote in message ... Here's to all the brave men who lost their lives that day, and to those that followed to push back the yellow menace. Salute. December 7, 1941, a date which will live in infamy...FDR |
Crap'n Neal® wrote:
My respect for you, Mr. King, just went up several notches. But, it still won't keep me from slamming you for being a motorboater. You're like a monkey that just can't let go of the nuts... since you're a pathetic wheezing wanna-be, with few & paltry accomplishments, you need to insult others to puff yourself up. The fact remains that I've sailed a heck of a lot more than you. DSK |
"DSK" wrote in message You're like a monkey that just can't let go of the nuts... My dad says the best way to catch a monkey is tie a narrow necked flask to a stump... put fruit inside.... the monkey reaches in, grabs the bait and refuses to let go. He can't get his hand out without releasing the bait. He won't let go of the bait because he's a victim of his own instincts. You just walk up and keep clubbing him till he's dead. Then again he also told me the best way to kill Baboons is to put out a barrel of beer. Wait a few hours and kill every drunken Baboon you see.... :-D CM |
Oh yeah! But you look up Margaret Gray's skirt whilst she's singing a song. Shame on you LLoyd! Now he's a Christian man and I tell you no good Christian man is gonna go looking up a lady's dress unless something is lost or caught up in there. Why I bet that Margaret Gray had done stole a bunch of Bibles and wus carrying them off between her butt cheeks! Margaret wuz singing cuz dem Bibles be cold! Amen! Pastor William Rennick |
wrote in message ... On Tue, 7 Dec 2004 15:02:48 -0500, Capt. Neal® wrote: You are such a dope. A motorcycle made in 1975 in Japan has nothing to do with Pearl Harbor. Yeah - why buy American? Everybody should be asking themselves that question. Especially those claiming to be patriots. Besides, you Harley Davidson people are so stupid you don't even realize more than half the part on your so-called American bike are made in Japan, China, Taiwan, Mexico etc. There is no such thing as an American motorcycle anymore. I know that very well. However, I also know that the profits from Harley stay here and go back into our own economy, while the profits from your Suzuki went to Japan. All that did was make our balance of trade worse. Meanwhile the Japs wouldn't let American farmers sell rice in their country. **** you and all the anti-American traitors just like you! I bet John Wayne and Ronald Reagan never rode a Suzuki! Have yourself another cup of rice, traitor! Says BB as he types away on his made in Taiwan computer, smoothes down the wrinkles on his made in India shirt, his Chinese jeans, while he watches his Japanese Sony television and pigs out on Mexican produce. Yes, sir, you are all American . . . Bwaaaaaaaaaaaaahahahhahahhahahhahahhaha! CN |
Ok big mouth, tell us what American bike he could have bought in 1975
for that kind of money. Tell us which American bike he could have bought that weighs less than 2 tons. Tell us which American bike he could have bought in '75 that had the same performance as his S380. SV wrote in message ... On Tue, 7 Dec 2004 15:02:48 -0500, Capt. Neal® wrote: You are such a dope. A motorcycle made in 1975 in Japan has nothing to do with Pearl Harbor. Yeah - why buy American? Everybody should be asking themselves that question. Especially those claiming to be patriots. Besides, you Harley Davidson people are so stupid you don't even realize more than half the part on your so-called American bike are made in Japan, China, Taiwan, Mexico etc. There is no such thing as an American motorcycle anymore. I know that very well. However, I also know that the profits from Harley stay here and go back into our own economy, while the profits from your Suzuki went to Japan. All that did was make our balance of trade worse. Meanwhile the Japs wouldn't let American farmers sell rice in their country. **** you and all the anti-American traitors just like you! I bet John Wayne and Ronald Reagan never rode a Suzuki! Have yourself another cup of rice, traitor! BB CN wrote in message ... On Tue, 7 Dec 2004 14:46:13 -0500, Says the dope who has been boasting all day about his Japanese motorcycle and how he thinks it can whip any American motorcycle. What a fine way to observe PEARL HARBOR DAY. BB |
Excellent point. I could have bought a Harley Davidson
Sprint - a bigger piece of crap has never been made. CN "Scott Vernon" wrote in message ... Ok big mouth, tell us what American bike he could have bought in 1975 for that kind of money. Tell us which American bike he could have bought that weighs less than 2 tons. Tell us which American bike he could have bought in '75 that had the same performance as his S380. SV wrote in message ... On Tue, 7 Dec 2004 15:02:48 -0500, Capt. Neal® wrote: You are such a dope. A motorcycle made in 1975 in Japan has nothing to do with Pearl Harbor. Yeah - why buy American? Everybody should be asking themselves that question. Especially those claiming to be patriots. Besides, you Harley Davidson people are so stupid you don't even realize more than half the part on your so-called American bike are made in Japan, China, Taiwan, Mexico etc. There is no such thing as an American motorcycle anymore. I know that very well. However, I also know that the profits from Harley stay here and go back into our own economy, while the profits from your Suzuki went to Japan. All that did was make our balance of trade worse. Meanwhile the Japs wouldn't let American farmers sell rice in their country. **** you and all the anti-American traitors just like you! I bet John Wayne and Ronald Reagan never rode a Suzuki! Have yourself another cup of rice, traitor! BB CN wrote in message ... On Tue, 7 Dec 2004 14:46:13 -0500, Says the dope who has been boasting all day about his Japanese motorcycle and how he thinks it can whip any American motorcycle. What a fine way to observe PEARL HARBOR DAY. BB |
As bad as the Harleys are, I stopped in at the (West Chester) Indian Shop to
look over the new models. 2 of them were dripping oil on the showroom floor! I did like the belt drives though. Scout "Scott Vernon" wrote in message ... Ok big mouth, tell us what American bike he could have bought in 1975 for that kind of money. Tell us which American bike he could have bought that weighs less than 2 tons. Tell us which American bike he could have bought in '75 that had the same performance as his S380. SV wrote in message ... On Tue, 7 Dec 2004 15:02:48 -0500, Capt. Neal® wrote: You are such a dope. A motorcycle made in 1975 in Japan has nothing to do with Pearl Harbor. Yeah - why buy American? Everybody should be asking themselves that question. Especially those claiming to be patriots. Besides, you Harley Davidson people are so stupid you don't even realize more than half the part on your so-called American bike are made in Japan, China, Taiwan, Mexico etc. There is no such thing as an American motorcycle anymore. I know that very well. However, I also know that the profits from Harley stay here and go back into our own economy, while the profits from your Suzuki went to Japan. All that did was make our balance of trade worse. Meanwhile the Japs wouldn't let American farmers sell rice in their country. **** you and all the anti-American traitors just like you! I bet John Wayne and Ronald Reagan never rode a Suzuki! Have yourself another cup of rice, traitor! BB CN wrote in message ... On Tue, 7 Dec 2004 14:46:13 -0500, Says the dope who has been boasting all day about his Japanese motorcycle and how he thinks it can whip any American motorcycle. What a fine way to observe PEARL HARBOR DAY. BB |
On Tue, 7 Dec 2004 15:02:48 -0500, Capt. Neal®
wrote this crap: You are such a dope. A motorcycle made in 1975 in Japan has nothing to do with Pearl Harbor. Besides, you Harley Davidson people are so stupid you don't even realize more than half the part on your so-called American bike are made in Japan, China, Taiwan, Mexico etc. There is no such thing as an American motorcycle anymore. That's a myth made up by riceburner fans. Harley-Davidson uses mostly American parts. Any parts made outside America have to be approved by the executive board. The only Japanese parts on mine are the tires. Pathetic Earthlings! No one can save you now! |
On Tue, 07 Dec 2004 20:32:31 GMT, "Overproof"
wrote this crap: "DSK" wrote in message You're like a monkey that just can't let go of the nuts... My dad says the best way to catch a monkey is tie a narrow necked flask to a stump... put fruit inside.... the monkey reaches in, grabs the bait and refuses to let go. He can't get his hand out without releasing the bait. He won't let go of the bait because he's a victim of his own instincts. You just walk up and keep clubbing him till he's dead. Then again he also told me the best way to kill Baboons is to put out a barrel of beer. Wait a few hours and kill every drunken Baboon you see.... Do they taste like chicken? Pathetic Earthlings! No one can save you now! |
"Thom Stewart" wrote in message ... Thanks Group, Dec.,7th, 1941 was the day that Branded my generation. Us Old Timers vowed to make the bad things in our world better. We thought we did. Trouble with living so long, is seeing that we created other problems. SORRY Thanks for Rememdering Pearl Harbor! Ole Thom You guys did fine, it was the fellas after you that screwed everything up. John Cairns |
"Scott Vernon" wrote
Tell us which American bike he could have bought in '75 that had the same performance as his S380. XR-750 IIRC (The factory flat trackers) or any of their roadracers. Didn't see many in showrooms but they were for sale. |
"Capt. Neal®" wrote Excellent point. I could have bought a Harley Davidson Sprint - a bigger piece of crap has never been made. But H-D didn't make it, it was Italian. |
So much for your theory that Harleys are made in the USA . . .
CN "Vito" wrote in message ... "Capt. Neal®" wrote Excellent point. I could have bought a Harley Davidson Sprint - a bigger piece of crap has never been made. But H-D didn't make it, it was Italian. |
"Scout" wrote
As bad as the Harleys are, ..... grin I still have a 1990 FLHTC I bought new. It'd been 92,000 miles when it cracked a valve guide in 110 deg heat in NV but it went on to LA then back to VA where the Dealer replaced the heads under warranty. Next year the stator died in Four Corners but since I could turn the headlight off I rode it to Flagstaff, where it was fixed that morning, and when I got back to VA the dealer replaced both engine cases - including all the lower end bearings - free, under warranty. It now has about 200,000 miles on it. I replaced the belt and sprockets at 135,000, rear tyres every 12,000, fronts half as often, and changed oil and filters and used a gallon of gas every 40 miles.Valve adjustments? $400/10,000mi on rice but never needed on H-Ds. By contrast a buddy bought a new RZ-350 just like mine but never got to ride it cuz it seized and the dealer kept it over a year waiting for pistons. Had plenty of oversizes but no stockers and Yamahahaha said no rebore - had to fix it right no matter how long that took!! He sold it 'as is' and took a bath. Tell him how wunnerful your ricer is but watch out, he mastered in both rifle and pistol. Similarly, my new R1100RT BM ran like crap so I blew $700 (IIRC) on a major service that didn't help. Wrench said it needed a minor adjustment (0=0 for y'all BMrs) but it'd void my warranty. Happened to about 1 in 10 bike but BMW NA's position was that I had the finest bike in the world and should be happy even if it didn't run. Ditto the chrome coming off my R1100C and the goofy wear that ruins $125+ front tyres every 4-5000 miles and ... and .... Did I mention that I can still get parts for most any H-D and Brit, even 'new' Amal carbs, but not brake parts for an original CB750 Honda ... or that many BMW dealers don't work on "vintage" (R100) BMWs from " back in the 80s" anymore? That's why my 1990 H-D still has a home while others have come and gone. It shares a garage with my Oilfield and wife's bikes: a 112 HP Kaw 600, a '79 Bunnyville, a 1200 Sporty, a BSA 250 that Dick Mann built for 'Smiley' Cameron and he gave her, and a mid-60s F3 bike (Yammy 125 in Van Tech). She rarely lets me ride them cuz I totaled her new Triumph 1200 last year. I had to sell my 1200 Kaw and ST-2 Duc cuz I my neck can't hack the position since that crash (No! Not old age! I'm in denial). Lost $1000s on each of them but my old hog is till worth the same $$$ I paid for it back in '89. Remind me to ride it down to the boat Saturday .... BTW the reason older H-Ds leaked was that their Automatic Chain Oilers were maladjusted but y'all knowed that right? |
"Horvath" wrote ....... The only Japanese parts on mine are the tires. He's not lying! There are no Jap parts on a Harley Sprint. (c: |
My dad says the best way to catch a monkey.....
Tie a bunch of fruit too high to reach but leave a ladder under it then let in 5-10 monkeys. Whenever they start up the ladder hit them with a fire hose! When they quit trying replace one monkey. When the new monk goes for the fruit hose him off the ladder then hose the rest down too. Repeat with another monkey. Soon the old monkeys will not let a new one near the ladder. Each day replce the oldest monkey till no monkey has ever been hosed. The older ones will still beat the crap out of any newcomer who heads for the fruit even tho none of them have ever been hosed. Just like some people we know ..... |
"John Cairns" wrote in message
om... "Thom Stewart" wrote in message ... Thanks Group, Dec.,7th, 1941 was the day that Branded my generation. Us Old Timers vowed to make the bad things in our world better. We thought we did. Trouble with living so long, is seeing that we created other problems. SORRY Thanks for Rememdering Pearl Harbor! Ole Thom You guys did fine, it was the fellas after you that screwed everything up. John Cairns Second that!! It WAS better into and thru the 1960s. Bigger incomes, nicer homes, better cars and bikes, less gummymint interference, et al. Then the beancounters who turned 'nam into a quagmire and it turned American against American but that wasn't your generation Thom, or even mine. |
When you were in the 4 corners did you notice the miles and miles and miles
of booze bottles on the sides of the road? Tell me you didn't drive through the reservation at night. Amen! Bob Crantz "Vito" wrote in message ... "Scout" wrote As bad as the Harleys are, ..... grin I still have a 1990 FLHTC I bought new. It'd been 92,000 miles when it cracked a valve guide in 110 deg heat in NV but it went on to LA then back to VA where the Dealer replaced the heads under warranty. Next year the stator died in Four Corners but since I could turn the headlight off I rode it to Flagstaff, where it was fixed that morning, and when I got back to VA the dealer replaced both engine cases - including all the lower end bearings - free, under warranty. It now has about 200,000 miles on it. I replaced the belt and sprockets at 135,000, rear tyres every 12,000, fronts half as often, and changed oil and filters and used a gallon of gas every 40 miles.Valve adjustments? $400/10,000mi on rice but never needed on H-Ds. By contrast a buddy bought a new RZ-350 just like mine but never got to ride it cuz it seized and the dealer kept it over a year waiting for pistons. Had plenty of oversizes but no stockers and Yamahahaha said no rebore - had to fix it right no matter how long that took!! He sold it 'as is' and took a bath. Tell him how wunnerful your ricer is but watch out, he mastered in both rifle and pistol. Similarly, my new R1100RT BM ran like crap so I blew $700 (IIRC) on a major service that didn't help. Wrench said it needed a minor adjustment (0=0 for y'all BMrs) but it'd void my warranty. Happened to about 1 in 10 bike but BMW NA's position was that I had the finest bike in the world and should be happy even if it didn't run. Ditto the chrome coming off my R1100C and the goofy wear that ruins $125+ front tyres every 4-5000 miles and ... and ..... Did I mention that I can still get parts for most any H-D and Brit, even 'new' Amal carbs, but not brake parts for an original CB750 Honda ... or that many BMW dealers don't work on "vintage" (R100) BMWs from " back in the 80s" anymore? That's why my 1990 H-D still has a home while others have come and gone. It shares a garage with my Oilfield and wife's bikes: a 112 HP Kaw 600, a '79 Bunnyville, a 1200 Sporty, a BSA 250 that Dick Mann built for 'Smiley' Cameron and he gave her, and a mid-60s F3 bike (Yammy 125 in Van Tech). She rarely lets me ride them cuz I totaled her new Triumph 1200 last year. I had to sell my 1200 Kaw and ST-2 Duc cuz I my neck can't hack the position since that crash (No! Not old age! I'm in denial). Lost $1000s on each of them but my old hog is till worth the same $$$ I paid for it back in '89. Remind me to ride it down to the boat Saturday .... BTW the reason older H-Ds leaked was that their Automatic Chain Oilers were maladjusted but y'all knowed that right? |
Harley Davidson riders are among the most feeble minded
people in the world and Vito proves it with his justifying the many Harley major breakdowns on the basis that parts are available. Of course parts are available. There would be NO Harleys on the road if this were not the case. CN "Bob Crantz" wrote in message ink.net... When you were in the 4 corners did you notice the miles and miles and miles of booze bottles on the sides of the road? Tell me you didn't drive through the reservation at night. Amen! Bob Crantz "Vito" wrote in message ... "Scout" wrote As bad as the Harleys are, ..... grin I still have a 1990 FLHTC I bought new. It'd been 92,000 miles when it cracked a valve guide in 110 deg heat in NV but it went on to LA then back to VA where the Dealer replaced the heads under warranty. Next year the stator died in Four Corners but since I could turn the headlight off I rode it to Flagstaff, where it was fixed that morning, and when I got back to VA the dealer replaced both engine cases - including all the lower end bearings - free, under warranty. It now has about 200,000 miles on it. I replaced the belt and sprockets at 135,000, rear tyres every 12,000, fronts half as often, and changed oil and filters and used a gallon of gas every 40 miles.Valve adjustments? $400/10,000mi on rice but never needed on H-Ds. By contrast a buddy bought a new RZ-350 just like mine but never got to ride it cuz it seized and the dealer kept it over a year waiting for pistons. Had plenty of oversizes but no stockers and Yamahahaha said no rebore - had to fix it right no matter how long that took!! He sold it 'as is' and took a bath. Tell him how wunnerful your ricer is but watch out, he mastered in both rifle and pistol. Similarly, my new R1100RT BM ran like crap so I blew $700 (IIRC) on a major service that didn't help. Wrench said it needed a minor adjustment (0=0 for y'all BMrs) but it'd void my warranty. Happened to about 1 in 10 bike but BMW NA's position was that I had the finest bike in the world and should be happy even if it didn't run. Ditto the chrome coming off my R1100C and the goofy wear that ruins $125+ front tyres every 4-5000 miles and ... and .... Did I mention that I can still get parts for most any H-D and Brit, even 'new' Amal carbs, but not brake parts for an original CB750 Honda ... or that many BMW dealers don't work on "vintage" (R100) BMWs from " back in the 80s" anymore? That's why my 1990 H-D still has a home while others have come and gone. It shares a garage with my Oilfield and wife's bikes: a 112 HP Kaw 600, a '79 Bunnyville, a 1200 Sporty, a BSA 250 that Dick Mann built for 'Smiley' Cameron and he gave her, and a mid-60s F3 bike (Yammy 125 in Van Tech). She rarely lets me ride them cuz I totaled her new Triumph 1200 last year. I had to sell my 1200 Kaw and ST-2 Duc cuz I my neck can't hack the position since that crash (No! Not old age! I'm in denial). Lost $1000s on each of them but my old hog is till worth the same $$$ I paid for it back in '89. Remind me to ride it down to the boat Saturday .... BTW the reason older H-Ds leaked was that their Automatic Chain Oilers were maladjusted but y'all knowed that right? |
On Wed, 8 Dec 2004 17:47:46 -0500, Capt. Neal®
wrote this crap: Harley Davidson riders are among the most feeble minded people in the world and Vito proves it with his justifying the many Harley major breakdowns on the basis that parts are available. Of course parts are available. People who can't afford Harleys are always the most jealous. My lawn tractor is worth more than your crappy Soo-sucky. Pathetic Earthlings! No one can save you now! |
"Vito" wrote in message Similarly, my new R1100RT BM ran like crap so I blew $700 (IIRC) on a major service that didn't help. Wrench said it needed a minor adjustment (0=0 for y'all BMrs) but it'd void my warranty. Happened to about 1 in 10 bike but BMW NA's position was that I had the finest bike in the world and should be happy even if it didn't run. Ditto the chrome coming off my R1100C and the goofy wear that ruins $125+ front tyres every 4-5000 miles and ... and ..... So you have the infamous BMW "surge" that BMW corporate denies even exists, eh. So does my R1150RT. The local wrench did a fine job of minimizing it without resorting to the Rob Lentini mod. (0-0, as you say) but it's still there. To boot, BMW rearended my local dealership and ran them out of business, so now we have no official BMW service here now. The wrench went independent, and I use him for most things, but it's so damned typical of BMW corporate to screw over its long-time customers. Hate the *******s, and I've bought my last BMW bike. Good luck with your bike, and do the Lentini mod, now that it's out of warranty. The mod works perfectly, albeit the fuel economy drops a little and the emissions get slightly dirtier. (Only Mr. Ganz will get his panties in a wad over that.) Max |
the XRs were nice, but at what price?
I bet you're *still* mad at Bubba. Scotty "Vito" wrote in message ... "Scott Vernon" wrote Tell us which American bike he could have bought in '75 that had the same performance as his S380. XR-750 IIRC (The factory flat trackers) or any of their roadracers. Didn't see many in showrooms but they were for sale. |
What is the Lentini mod? And what is 0-0 ?
Scotty '77 R100S "Maxprop" wrote in message ink.net... So you have the infamous BMW "surge" that BMW corporate denies even exists, eh. So does my R1150RT. The local wrench did a fine job of minimizing it without resorting to the Rob Lentini mod. (0-0, as you say) but it's still there. To boot, BMW rearended my local dealership and ran them out of business, so now we have no official BMW service here now. The wrench went independent, and I use him for most things, but it's so damned typical of BMW corporate to screw over its long-time customers. Hate the *******s, and I've bought my last BMW bike. Good luck with your bike, and do the Lentini mod, now that it's out of warranty. The mod works perfectly, albeit the fuel economy drops a little and the emissions get slightly dirtier. (Only Mr. Ganz will get his panties in a wad over that.) Max |
On Wed, 8 Dec 2004 21:14:39 -0500, "Scott Vernon"
wrote this crap: the XRs were nice, but at what price? My bike is an XR1000. Purchased brand new in 1984 for nine grand. And well worth the price. Pathetic Earthlings! No one can save you now! |
"Bob Crantz" wrote in message
ink.net... When you were in the 4 corners did you notice the miles and miles and miles of booze bottles on the sides of the road? Naw, being from VA trash is too common to notice )c:. But I loved being buzzed by flocks of Navaho teens on fast 600s - Crazy Horse lives, just on an iron steed. |
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