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Freestanding outdoor fireplace thingamabob for Tim's (grey haired dude from
the boatyard?) backyard so we don't freeze running Scupper! Sheesh! Seahag "Scott Vernon" wrote: "Chiminea for Tim'' ??? "Seahag" wrote: It might take longer, we bought a Chiminea for Tim yesterday...gonna have fires all winter! Seahag "Scott Vernon" wrote in message ... Ats OK, I got 11 months for her to cool down. Scotty "katysails" wrote in message ... You gonna be in a whole speck of trouble if you keep pickin on her... "Scott Vernon" wrote in message ... "katysails" wrote ... Haggie can't count... she can when she's sober. ;) |
I'm a little puzzled by your back stay toggle. It seems to be bronze in
contact with stainless. This is a very bad metal combination for electrolysis -which would occur with all the salt spray lashing over it from your ocean voyaging. I recommend replacing the toggle with stainless as well. Might save a catastrophic rig failure. Cheers Capt. NealŽ wrote: http://captneal.homestead.com/littleperfections.html For your viewing pleasure. CN |
There is no electrolysis with those two metals combined
in the atmosphere. Electrolysis only occurs in the presence of an electrolyte. What little salt water that may splash up on the stay does not get through the T-9 Boeshield it is sprayed with from time to time. For the toggle action to work the softer bronze is necessary. Stainless on stainless would gall. You should know that. CN "Nav" wrote in message ... I'm a little puzzled by your back stay toggle. It seems to be bronze in contact with stainless. This is a very bad metal combination for electrolysis -which would occur with all the salt spray lashing over it from your ocean voyaging. I recommend replacing the toggle with stainless as well. Might save a catastrophic rig failure. Cheers Capt. NealŽ wrote: http://captneal.homestead.com/littleperfections.html For your viewing pleasure. CN |
Capt. NealŽ wrote: There is no electrolysis with those two metals combined in the atmosphere. Electrolysis only occurs in the presence of an electrolyte. What little salt water that may splash up on the stay does not get through the T-9 Boeshield it is sprayed with from time to time. Why so little salt? After a good thrash to windward (like I had this weekend in 30 knots) every surface gets covered with salt. For the toggle action to work the softer bronze is necessary. Stainless on stainless would gall. You should know that. I have stainless toggles. They don't gall. Cheers |
ON A SPLIT BACKSTAY WAY DOWN ON THE COAMING?
You must have an awfully poor design there. The only time I get salt water in the cockpit is running downwind in a gale. Upwind it's dry. CN "Nav" wrote in message ... Why so little salt? After a good thrash to windward (like I had this weekend in 30 knots) every surface gets covered with salt. For the toggle action to work the softer bronze is necessary. Stainless on stainless would gall. You should know that. I have stainless toggles. They don't gall. Cheers |
Capt. NealŽ wrote: ON A SPLIT BACKSTAY WAY DOWN ON THE COAMING? You must have an awfully poor design there. The only time I get salt water in the cockpit is running downwind in a gale. Upwind it's dry. Have you really never sailed to windward in a big sea -you know when the bow buries and spray flies everywhere? Cheers |
That's where you racers fail to appreciate a real cruising boat. Look at my bow. It does not bury and throw spray the length of the boat. It does not have that slack entry like race boats nor a hull design with no shear so the bow is no higher than the gunnels in the center of the yacht. I've seen race boats punching through waves. My fine blue water cruising yacht rides up and over the waves. CN "Nav" wrote in message ... Capt. NealŽ wrote: ON A SPLIT BACKSTAY WAY DOWN ON THE COAMING? You must have an awfully poor design there. The only time I get salt water in the cockpit is running downwind in a gale. Upwind it's dry. Have you really never sailed to windward in a big sea -you know when the bow buries and spray flies everywhere? Cheers |
It won't ride over them and stay dry they get 4m high.
Chhers Capt. NealŽ wrote: That's where you racers fail to appreciate a real cruising boat. Look at my bow. It does not bury and throw spray the length of the boat. It does not have that slack entry like race boats nor a hull design with no shear so the bow is no higher than the gunnels in the center of the yacht. I've seen race boats punching through waves. My fine blue water cruising yacht rides up and over the waves. CN "Nav" wrote in message ... Capt. NealŽ wrote: ON A SPLIT BACKSTAY WAY DOWN ON THE COAMING? You must have an awfully poor design there. The only time I get salt water in the cockpit is running downwind in a gale. Upwind it's dry. Have you really never sailed to windward in a big sea -you know when the bow buries and spray flies everywhere? Cheers |
Yes it will. Cruisers don't even attempt to go to weather in those conditions. There's always an alternative destination downwind. CN "Nav" wrote in message ... It won't ride over them and stay dry they get 4m high. Chhers Capt. NealŽ wrote: That's where you racers fail to appreciate a real cruising boat. Look at my bow. It does not bury and throw spray the length of the boat. It does not have that slack entry like race boats nor a hull design with no shear so the bow is no higher than the gunnels in the center of the yacht. I've seen race boats punching through waves. My fine blue water cruising yacht rides up and over the waves. CN "Nav" wrote in message ... Capt. NealŽ wrote: ON A SPLIT BACKSTAY WAY DOWN ON THE COAMING? You must have an awfully poor design there. The only time I get salt water in the cockpit is running downwind in a gale. Upwind it's dry. Have you really never sailed to windward in a big sea -you know when the bow buries and spray flies everywhere? Cheers |
Always? You would run downwind until you meet a lee shore?
Cheers Capt. NealŽ wrote: Yes it will. Cruisers don't even attempt to go to weather in those conditions. There's always an alternative destination downwind. CN "Nav" wrote in message ... It won't ride over them and stay dry they get 4m high. Chhers Capt. NealŽ wrote: That's where you racers fail to appreciate a real cruising boat. Look at my bow. It does not bury and throw spray the length of the boat. It does not have that slack entry like race boats nor a hull design with no shear so the bow is no higher than the gunnels in the center of the yacht. I've seen race boats punching through waves. My fine blue water cruising yacht rides up and over the waves. CN "Nav" wrote in message ... Capt. NealŽ wrote: ON A SPLIT BACKSTAY WAY DOWN ON THE COAMING? You must have an awfully poor design there. The only time I get salt water in the cockpit is running downwind in a gale. Upwind it's dry. Have you really never sailed to windward in a big sea -you know when the bow buries and spray flies everywhere? Cheers |
Certainly, as long as there was an inlet and safe harbor.
CN "Nav" wrote in message ... Always? You would run downwind until you meet a lee shore? Cheers Capt. NealŽ wrote: Yes it will. Cruisers don't even attempt to go to weather in those conditions. There's always an alternative destination downwind. CN "Nav" wrote in message ... It won't ride over them and stay dry they get 4m high. Chhers Capt. NealŽ wrote: That's where you racers fail to appreciate a real cruising boat. Look at my bow. It does not bury and throw spray the length of the boat. It does not have that slack entry like race boats nor a hull design with no shear so the bow is no higher than the gunnels in the center of the yacht. I've seen race boats punching through waves. My fine blue water cruising yacht rides up and over the waves. CN "Nav" wrote in message ... Capt. NealŽ wrote: ON A SPLIT BACKSTAY WAY DOWN ON THE COAMING? You must have an awfully poor design there. The only time I get salt water in the cockpit is running downwind in a gale. Upwind it's dry. Have you really never sailed to windward in a big sea -you know when the bow buries and spray flies everywhere? Cheers |
You would not try to escape the dangerous quadrant of a storm or worse?
Cheers Capt. NealŽ wrote: Yes it will. Cruisers don't even attempt to go to weather in those conditions. There's always an alternative destination downwind. CN "Nav" wrote in message ... It won't ride over them and stay dry they get 4m high. Chhers Capt. NealŽ wrote: That's where you racers fail to appreciate a real cruising boat. Look at my bow. It does not bury and throw spray the length of the boat. It does not have that slack entry like race boats nor a hull design with no shear so the bow is no higher than the gunnels in the center of the yacht. I've seen race boats punching through waves. My fine blue water cruising yacht rides up and over the waves. CN "Nav" wrote in message ... Capt. NealŽ wrote: ON A SPLIT BACKSTAY WAY DOWN ON THE COAMING? You must have an awfully poor design there. The only time I get salt water in the cockpit is running downwind in a gale. Upwind it's dry. Have you really never sailed to windward in a big sea -you know when the bow buries and spray flies everywhere? Cheers |
And grab a mooring as you fly by like Booby?
Cheers Capt. NealŽ wrote: Certainly, as long as there was an inlet and safe harbor. CN "Nav" wrote in message ... Always? You would run downwind until you meet a lee shore? Cheers Capt. NealŽ wrote: Yes it will. Cruisers don't even attempt to go to weather in those conditions. There's always an alternative destination downwind. CN "Nav" wrote in message ... It won't ride over them and stay dry they get 4m high. Chhers Capt. NealŽ wrote: That's where you racers fail to appreciate a real cruising boat. Look at my bow. It does not bury and throw spray the length of the boat. It does not have that slack entry like race boats nor a hull design with no shear so the bow is no higher than the gunnels in the center of the yacht. I've seen race boats punching through waves. My fine blue water cruising yacht rides up and over the waves. CN "Nav" wrote in message ... Capt. NealŽ wrote: ON A SPLIT BACKSTAY WAY DOWN ON THE COAMING? You must have an awfully poor design there. The only time I get salt water in the cockpit is running downwind in a gale. Upwind it's dry. Have you really never sailed to windward in a big sea -you know when the bow buries and spray flies everywhere? Cheers |
And if not?
Cheers Capt. NealŽ wrote: Certainly, as long as there was an inlet and safe harbor. CN "Nav" wrote in message ... Always? You would run downwind until you meet a lee shore? Cheers Capt. NealŽ wrote: Yes it will. Cruisers don't even attempt to go to weather in those conditions. There's always an alternative destination downwind. CN "Nav" wrote in message ... It won't ride over them and stay dry they get 4m high. Chhers Capt. NealŽ wrote: That's where you racers fail to appreciate a real cruising boat. Look at my bow. It does not bury and throw spray the length of the boat. It does not have that slack entry like race boats nor a hull design with no shear so the bow is no higher than the gunnels in the center of the yacht. I've seen race boats punching through waves. My fine blue water cruising yacht rides up and over the waves. CN "Nav" wrote in message ... Capt. NealŽ wrote: ON A SPLIT BACKSTAY WAY DOWN ON THE COAMING? You must have an awfully poor design there. The only time I get salt water in the cockpit is running downwind in a gale. Upwind it's dry. Have you really never sailed to windward in a big sea -you know when the bow buries and spray flies everywhere? Cheers |
Then I quarter the waves and if that doesn't keep me off the
lee shore I sail 90 degrees to the wind. It is rarely necessary to beat into high winds and large seas unless one is racing. CN "Nav" wrote in message ... And if not? Cheers Capt. NealŽ wrote: Certainly, as long as there was an inlet and safe harbor. CN "Nav" wrote in message ... Always? You would run downwind until you meet a lee shore? Cheers Capt. NealŽ wrote: Yes it will. Cruisers don't even attempt to go to weather in those conditions. There's always an alternative destination downwind. CN "Nav" wrote in message ... It won't ride over them and stay dry they get 4m high. Chhers Capt. NealŽ wrote: That's where you racers fail to appreciate a real cruising boat. Look at my bow. It does not bury and throw spray the length of the boat. It does not have that slack entry like race boats nor a hull design with no shear so the bow is no higher than the gunnels in the center of the yacht. I've seen race boats punching through waves. My fine blue water cruising yacht rides up and over the waves. CN "Nav" wrote in message ... Capt. NealŽ wrote: ON A SPLIT BACKSTAY WAY DOWN ON THE COAMING? You must have an awfully poor design there. The only time I get salt water in the cockpit is running downwind in a gale. Upwind it's dry. Have you really never sailed to windward in a big sea -you know when the bow buries and spray flies everywhere? Cheers |
One escapes the dangerous quadrant (assuming sea room all around) [and in the northern hemisphere] not by beating into the winds but by putting them on one's quarter. CN "Nav" wrote in message ... You would not try to escape the dangerous quadrant of a storm or worse? Cheers Capt. NealŽ wrote: Yes it will. Cruisers don't even attempt to go to weather in those conditions. There's always an alternative destination downwind. CN "Nav" wrote in message ... It won't ride over them and stay dry they get 4m high. Chhers Capt. NealŽ wrote: That's where you racers fail to appreciate a real cruising boat. Look at my bow. It does not bury and throw spray the length of the boat. It does not have that slack entry like race boats nor a hull design with no shear so the bow is no higher than the gunnels in the center of the yacht. I've seen race boats punching through waves. My fine blue water cruising yacht rides up and over the waves. CN "Nav" wrote in message ... Capt. NealŽ wrote: ON A SPLIT BACKSTAY WAY DOWN ON THE COAMING? You must have an awfully poor design there. The only time I get salt water in the cockpit is running downwind in a gale. Upwind it's dry. Have you really never sailed to windward in a big sea -you know when the bow buries and spray flies everywhere? Cheers |
I can't imagine how salt water never reaches his backstay adjuster if he
really sails, either....we get plenty of fresh water on ours if it's a bumpy trip or the going's a biy beamy.... "Nav" wrote in message ... Capt. NealŽ wrote: ON A SPLIT BACKSTAY WAY DOWN ON THE COAMING? You must have an awfully poor design there. The only time I get salt water in the cockpit is running downwind in a gale. Upwind it's dry. Have you really never sailed to windward in a big sea -you know when the bow buries and spray flies everywhere? Cheers |
It's shoal draft...it probably slams a lot to wind...
"Capt. NealŽ" wrote in message ... That's where you racers fail to appreciate a real cruising boat. Look at my bow. It does not bury and throw spray the length of the boat. It does not have that slack entry like race boats nor a hull design with no shear so the bow is no higher than the gunnels in the center of the yacht. I've seen race boats punching through waves. My fine blue water cruising yacht rides up and over the waves. CN "Nav" wrote in message ... Capt. NealŽ wrote: ON A SPLIT BACKSTAY WAY DOWN ON THE COAMING? You must have an awfully poor design there. The only time I get salt water in the cockpit is running downwind in a gale. Upwind it's dry. Have you really never sailed to windward in a big sea -you know when the bow buries and spray flies everywhere? Cheers |
"Capt. NealŽ" wrote in message ... ON A SPLIT BACKSTAY WAY DOWN ON THE COAMING? You must have an awfully poor design there. The only time I get salt water in the cockpit is running downwind in a gale. Upwind it's dry. CN Bwahahhaahhahahahhaahhahha. What a fraud. John Cairns "Nav" wrote in message ... Why so little salt? After a good thrash to windward (like I had this weekend in 30 knots) every surface gets covered with salt. For the toggle action to work the softer bronze is necessary. Stainless on stainless would gall. You should know that. I have stainless toggles. They don't gall. Cheers |
Oh, one of those yuppie fireplace things, I think Scout has one too.
Scotty "Seahag" wrote in message ... Freestanding outdoor fireplace thingamabob for Tim's (grey haired dude from the boatyard?) backyard so we don't freeze running Scupper! Sheesh! Seahag "Scott Vernon" wrote: "Chiminea for Tim'' ??? "Seahag" wrote: It might take longer, we bought a Chiminea for Tim yesterday...gonna have fires all winter! Seahag "Scott Vernon" wrote in message ... Ats OK, I got 11 months for her to cool down. Scotty "katysails" wrote in message ... You gonna be in a whole speck of trouble if you keep pickin on her... "Scott Vernon" wrote in message ... "katysails" wrote ... Haggie can't count... she can when she's sober. ;) |
katysails wrote:
It's shoal draft...it probably slams a lot to wind... Shaol draft and a hull shaped like a butter tub. But I dunno if the Coronado 27 ever slams or pounds, I don't think they can get up enough headway when pointing hard on the wind. Especially not with the CraptonŽ aboard. Fresh Breezes- Doug King |
PLONK!
"DSK" wrote in message . .. katysails wrote: It's shoal draft...it probably slams a lot to wind... Shaol draft and a hull shaped like a butter tub. But I dunno if the Coronado 27 ever slams or pounds, I don't think they can get up enough headway when pointing hard on the wind. Especially not with the CraptonŽ aboard. Fresh Breezes- Doug King |
Perfect. Soon Crapton will be talking to himself exclusively through his
sockpuppets. -- "j" ganz @@ www.sailnow.com "Capt. NealŽ" wrote in message ... PLONK! "DSK" wrote in message . .. katysails wrote: It's shoal draft...it probably slams a lot to wind... Shaol draft and a hull shaped like a butter tub. But I dunno if the Coronado 27 ever slams or pounds, I don't think they can get up enough headway when pointing hard on the wind. Especially not with the CraptonŽ aboard. Fresh Breezes- Doug King |
I don't think this right. In the northern hemisphere, you should try
escape the most dangerous quadrant by sailing close hauled on starboard to move off the hurricane track as fast as possible. Cheers Capt. NealŽ wrote: One escapes the dangerous quadrant (assuming sea room all around) [and in the northern hemisphere] not by beating into the winds but by putting them on one's quarter. CN "Nav" wrote in message ... You would not try to escape the dangerous quadrant of a storm or worse? Cheers Capt. NealŽ wrote: Yes it will. Cruisers don't even attempt to go to weather in those conditions. There's always an alternative destination downwind. CN "Nav" wrote in message ... It won't ride over them and stay dry they get 4m high. Chhers Capt. NealŽ wrote: That's where you racers fail to appreciate a real cruising boat. Look at my bow. It does not bury and throw spray the length of the boat. It does not have that slack entry like race boats nor a hull design with no shear so the bow is no higher than the gunnels in the center of the yacht. I've seen race boats punching through waves. My fine blue water cruising yacht rides up and over the waves. CN "Nav" wrote in message ... Capt. NealŽ wrote: ON A SPLIT BACKSTAY WAY DOWN ON THE COAMING? You must have an awfully poor design there. The only time I get salt water in the cockpit is running downwind in a gale. Upwind it's dry. Have you really never sailed to windward in a big sea -you know when the bow buries and spray flies everywhere? Cheers |
Depends where you are in respect to the dangerous quadrant.
For example. Say I am in George Town in the Bahamas and a 'cane is coming up from the Mona passage area. In George Town I would first feel a wind from the Northeast as it approaches. I put the NE wind on my starboard quarter and sail off towards the Cay Sal bank and Cuba. This direction will get me out of danger of the dangerous quadrant and allow me to sail a nice comfortable broad reach. CN "Nav" wrote in message ... I don't think this right. In the northern hemisphere, you should try escape the most dangerous quadrant by sailing close hauled on starboard to move off the hurricane track as fast as possible. Cheers Capt. NealŽ wrote: One escapes the dangerous quadrant (assuming sea room all around) [and in the northern hemisphere] not by beating into the winds but by putting them on one's quarter. CN "Nav" wrote in message ... You would not try to escape the dangerous quadrant of a storm or worse? Cheers Capt. NealŽ wrote: Yes it will. Cruisers don't even attempt to go to weather in those conditions. There's always an alternative destination downwind. CN "Nav" wrote in message ... It won't ride over them and stay dry they get 4m high. Chhers Capt. NealŽ wrote: That's where you racers fail to appreciate a real cruising boat. Look at my bow. It does not bury and throw spray the length of the boat. It does not have that slack entry like race boats nor a hull design with no shear so the bow is no higher than the gunnels in the center of the yacht. I've seen race boats punching through waves. My fine blue water cruising yacht rides up and over the waves. CN "Nav" wrote in message ... Capt. NealŽ wrote: ON A SPLIT BACKSTAY WAY DOWN ON THE COAMING? You must have an awfully poor design there. The only time I get salt water in the cockpit is running downwind in a gale. Upwind it's dry. Have you really never sailed to windward in a big sea -you know when the bow buries and spray flies everywhere? Cheers |
Good for Scout! We had a couple of really nice fires over the weekend. I
just love watching a wood fi^) Seahag "Scott Vernon" wrote: Oh, one of those yuppie fireplace things, I think Scout has one too. "Seahag" wrote: Freestanding outdoor fireplace thingamabob for Tim's (grey haired dude from the boatyard?) backyard so we don't freeze running Scupper! Sheesh! "Scott Vernon" wrote: "Chiminea for Tim'' ??? "Seahag" wrote: It might take longer, we bought a Chiminea for Tim yesterday...gonna have fires all winter! |
No, it will mean you never leave the quadrant as you will be sailing
parallel or towards the hurricane track. The hurricane moves ~ NW until it recurves. I say again, you sail close hauled on starboard tack away from the likely track as fast as possible Isn't it interesting that no one else is commenting on this sailing thread? Cheers Capt. NealŽ wrote: Depends where you are in respect to the dangerous quadrant. For example. Say I am in George Town in the Bahamas and a 'cane is coming up from the Mona passage area. In George Town I would first feel a wind from the Northeast as it approaches. I put the NE wind on my starboard quarter and sail off towards the Cay Sal bank and Cuba. This direction will get me out of danger of the dangerous quadrant and allow me to sail a nice comfortable broad reach. CN "Nav" wrote in message ... I don't think this right. In the northern hemisphere, you should try escape the most dangerous quadrant by sailing close hauled on starboard to move off the hurricane track as fast as possible. Cheers Capt. NealŽ wrote: One escapes the dangerous quadrant (assuming sea room all around) [and in the northern hemisphere] not by beating into the winds but by putting them on one's quarter. CN "Nav" wrote in message ... You would not try to escape the dangerous quadrant of a storm or worse? Cheers Capt. NealŽ wrote: Yes it will. Cruisers don't even attempt to go to weather in those conditions. There's always an alternative destination downwind. CN "Nav" wrote in message ... It won't ride over them and stay dry they get 4m high. Chhers Capt. NealŽ wrote: That's where you racers fail to appreciate a real cruising boat. Look at my bow. It does not bury and throw spray the length of the boat. It does not have that slack entry like race boats nor a hull design with no shear so the bow is no higher than the gunnels in the center of the yacht. I've seen race boats punching through waves. My fine blue water cruising yacht rides up and over the waves. CN "Nav" wrote in message ... Capt. NealŽ wrote: ON A SPLIT BACKSTAY WAY DOWN ON THE COAMING? You must have an awfully poor design there. The only time I get salt water in the cockpit is running downwind in a gale. Upwind it's dry. Have you really never sailed to windward in a big sea -you know when the bow buries and spray flies everywhere? Cheers |
I'm reading it and laughing. Since I've never been in those sort of
conditions and haven't read much about it, I'm not qualified to comment, except to say that Neal is an idiot. -- "j" ganz @@ www.sailnow.com "Nav" wrote in message ... No, it will mean you never leave the quadrant as you will be sailing parallel or towards the hurricane track. The hurricane moves ~ NW until it recurves. I say again, you sail close hauled on starboard tack away from the likely track as fast as possible Isn't it interesting that no one else is commenting on this sailing thread? Cheers Capt. NealŽ wrote: Depends where you are in respect to the dangerous quadrant. For example. Say I am in George Town in the Bahamas and a 'cane is coming up from the Mona passage area. In George Town I would first feel a wind from the Northeast as it approaches. I put the NE wind on my starboard quarter and sail off towards the Cay Sal bank and Cuba. This direction will get me out of danger of the dangerous quadrant and allow me to sail a nice comfortable broad reach. CN "Nav" wrote in message ... I don't think this right. In the northern hemisphere, you should try escape the most dangerous quadrant by sailing close hauled on starboard to move off the hurricane track as fast as possible. Cheers Capt. NealŽ wrote: One escapes the dangerous quadrant (assuming sea room all around) [and in the northern hemisphere] not by beating into the winds but by putting them on one's quarter. CN "Nav" wrote in message ... You would not try to escape the dangerous quadrant of a storm or worse? Cheers Capt. NealŽ wrote: Yes it will. Cruisers don't even attempt to go to weather in those conditions. There's always an alternative destination downwind. CN "Nav" wrote in message ... It won't ride over them and stay dry they get 4m high. Chhers Capt. NealŽ wrote: That's where you racers fail to appreciate a real cruising boat. Look at my bow. It does not bury and throw spray the length of the boat. It does not have that slack entry like race boats nor a hull design with no shear so the bow is no higher than the gunnels in the center of the yacht. I've seen race boats punching through waves. My fine blue water cruising yacht rides up and over the waves. CN "Nav" wrote in message ... Capt. NealŽ wrote: ON A SPLIT BACKSTAY WAY DOWN ON THE COAMING? You must have an awfully poor design there. The only time I get salt water in the cockpit is running downwind in a gale. Upwind it's dry. Have you really never sailed to windward in a big sea -you know when the bow buries and spray flies everywhere? Cheers |
Yeah, me too, better than a TV, especially when stoned.
Scotty "Seahag" wrote in message ... Good for Scout! We had a couple of really nice fires over the weekend. I just love watching a wood fi^) Seahag "Scott Vernon" wrote: Oh, one of those yuppie fireplace things, I think Scout has one too. "Seahag" wrote: Freestanding outdoor fireplace thingamabob for Tim's (grey haired dude from the boatyard?) backyard so we don't freeze running Scupper! Sheesh! "Scott Vernon" wrote: "Chiminea for Tim'' ??? "Seahag" wrote: It might take longer, we bought a Chiminea for Tim yesterday...gonna have fires all winter! |
Someone threw rocks at you? How sad!
Seahag "Scott Vernon" wrote in message ... Yeah, me too, better than a TV, especially when stoned. Scotty "Seahag" wrote in message ... Good for Scout! We had a couple of really nice fires over the weekend. I just love watching a wood fi^) Seahag "Scott Vernon" wrote: Oh, one of those yuppie fireplace things, I think Scout has one too. "Seahag" wrote: Freestanding outdoor fireplace thingamabob for Tim's (grey haired dude from the boatyard?) backyard so we don't freeze running Scupper! Sheesh! "Scott Vernon" wrote: "Chiminea for Tim'' ??? "Seahag" wrote: It might take longer, we bought a Chiminea for Tim yesterday...gonna have fires all winter! |
it's possible, I wouldn't have noticed.
Scotty "Seahag" wrote in message ... Someone threw rocks at you? How sad! Seahag "Scott Vernon" wrote in message ... Yeah, me too, better than a TV, especially when stoned. Scotty "Seahag" wrote in message ... Good for Scout! We had a couple of really nice fires over the weekend. I just love watching a wood fi^) Seahag "Scott Vernon" wrote: Oh, one of those yuppie fireplace things, I think Scout has one too. "Seahag" wrote: Freestanding outdoor fireplace thingamabob for Tim's (grey haired dude from the boatyard?) backyard so we don't freeze running Scupper! Sheesh! "Scott Vernon" wrote: "Chiminea for Tim'' ??? "Seahag" wrote: It might take longer, we bought a Chiminea for Tim yesterday...gonna have fires all winter! |
Did some one catch him in adultery? That's usually why they stone people...
Lisa will be really PO'd... "Seahag" wrote in message ... Someone threw rocks at you? How sad! Seahag "Scott Vernon" wrote in message ... Yeah, me too, better than a TV, especially when stoned. Scotty "Seahag" wrote in message ... Good for Scout! We had a couple of really nice fires over the weekend. I just love watching a wood fi^) Seahag "Scott Vernon" wrote: Oh, one of those yuppie fireplace things, I think Scout has one too. "Seahag" wrote: Freestanding outdoor fireplace thingamabob for Tim's (grey haired dude from the boatyard?) backyard so we don't freeze running Scupper! Sheesh! "Scott Vernon" wrote: "Chiminea for Tim'' ??? "Seahag" wrote: It might take longer, we bought a Chiminea for Tim yesterday...gonna have fires all winter! |
I think you are confused because you aren't familiar with the usual
hurricane tracks in this part of the world. Jeanne and Frances are two hurricanes we had this year. Both moved out of the Leeward islands on a general northwesterly path up through the Bahamas chain. Frances was a full blown hurricane while Jeanne was a tropical storm that took a path than included a loop before she turned into a hurricane and made her way across the northern Bahamas. In both cases winds associated with the circulation of these storms commenced out or the North East. Had one left one of the Bahamas that were in the path of Jeanne, going on a close reach on a starboard tack would have gotten you dead in the case of Jeanne and directly in the NE (bad) quadrant of Frances (a category 5 at the time). Going to the west on a broad reach in both cases takes one over to the weak side of both storms and as one progress further and further from the path the winds would back so they would end up in a direction so one could then reach to close reach on the starboard tack. Perhaps this is what is confusing you. You apparently are using the standard knowledge when one is already caught in the strong circulation of a storm whereas I don't wait that long and have more comfortable options. CN "Nav" wrote in message ... No, it will mean you never leave the quadrant as you will be sailing parallel or towards the hurricane track. The hurricane moves ~ NW until it recurves. I say again, you sail close hauled on starboard tack away from the likely track as fast as possible Isn't it interesting that no one else is commenting on this sailing thread? Cheers Capt. NealŽ wrote: Depends where you are in respect to the dangerous quadrant. For example. Say I am in George Town in the Bahamas and a 'cane is coming up from the Mona passage area. In George Town I would first feel a wind from the Northeast as it approaches. I put the NE wind on my starboard quarter and sail off towards the Cay Sal bank and Cuba. This direction will get me out of danger of the dangerous quadrant and allow me to sail a nice comfortable broad reach. CN "Nav" wrote in message ... I don't think this right. In the northern hemisphere, you should try escape the most dangerous quadrant by sailing close hauled on starboard to move off the hurricane track as fast as possible. Cheers Capt. NealŽ wrote: One escapes the dangerous quadrant (assuming sea room all around) [and in the northern hemisphere] not by beating into the winds but by putting them on one's quarter. CN "Nav" wrote in message ... You would not try to escape the dangerous quadrant of a storm or worse? Cheers Capt. NealŽ wrote: Yes it will. Cruisers don't even attempt to go to weather in those conditions. There's always an alternative destination downwind. CN "Nav" wrote in message ... It won't ride over them and stay dry they get 4m high. Chhers Capt. NealŽ wrote: That's where you racers fail to appreciate a real cruising boat. Look at my bow. It does not bury and throw spray the length of the boat. It does not have that slack entry like race boats nor a hull design with no shear so the bow is no higher than the gunnels in the center of the yacht. I've seen race boats punching through waves. My fine blue water cruising yacht rides up and over the waves. CN "Nav" wrote in message ... Capt. NealŽ wrote: ON A SPLIT BACKSTAY WAY DOWN ON THE COAMING? You must have an awfully poor design there. The only time I get salt water in the cockpit is running downwind in a gale. Upwind it's dry. Have you really never sailed to windward in a big sea -you know when the bow buries and spray flies everywhere? Cheers |
Doug you have it right again. I say if you want to be snobbish about
something make it worthwhile. Now being from the great PNW I'm proud to be a bona fide Seattle Coffee Snob. Ahhhh...a good dark roast is just the thing when properly made. None of that commercialized Starbucks Crap-ola. We sensitive palates demand and get better fare. Starbucks is for the rest of the planet. On the other hand Doug beer snobs aren't all that bad. They don't hold a candle to California Snobs who exist only because they think a 't' is a 'b.' "DSK" wrote in message . .. Scott Vernon wrote: When I drank beer, back in my teens, I preferred Rolling Rock. We already have enough beer snobs on this NG. I like Rolling Rock. It's not in the running for Best Beer In The World but (as even Mooron acknowledged) a cold one on a hot day really hits the spot. Beer snobbery is just plain dumb. There are much more important things to get snobby about. Besides, if I try to be a good host and stock four or five kinds of beer on the boat, and guests turn up their nose at all choices, then they can always drink water. Or tea. Fresh Breezes- Doug |
Spoken like the right wing freak that you are....
-- "j" ganz @@ www.sailnow.com "Michael" wrote in message ... Doug you have it right again. I say if you want to be snobbish about something make it worthwhile. Now being from the great PNW I'm proud to be a bona fide Seattle Coffee Snob. Ahhhh...a good dark roast is just the thing when properly made. None of that commercialized Starbucks Crap-ola. We sensitive palates demand and get better fare. Starbucks is for the rest of the planet. On the other hand Doug beer snobs aren't all that bad. They don't hold a candle to California Snobs who exist only because they think a 't' is a 'b.' "DSK" wrote in message . .. Scott Vernon wrote: When I drank beer, back in my teens, I preferred Rolling Rock. We already have enough beer snobs on this NG. I like Rolling Rock. It's not in the running for Best Beer In The World but (as even Mooron acknowledged) a cold one on a hot day really hits the spot. Beer snobbery is just plain dumb. There are much more important things to get snobby about. Besides, if I try to be a good host and stock four or five kinds of beer on the boat, and guests turn up their nose at all choices, then they can always drink water. Or tea. Fresh Breezes- Doug |
I think you are confused because you aren't familiar with the usual
hurricane tracks in this part of the world. Jeanne and Frances are two hurricanes we had this year. Both moved out of the Leeward islands on a general northwesterly path up through the Bahamas chain. Frances was a full blown hurricane while Jeanne was a tropical storm that took a path than included a loop before she turned into a hurricane and made her way across the northern Bahamas. In both cases winds associated with the circulation of these storms commenced out or the North East. Had one left one of the Bahamas that were in the path of Jeanne, going on a close reach on a starboard tack would have gotten you dead in the case of Jeanne and directly in the NE (bad) quadrant of Frances (a category 5 at the time). Going to the west on a broad reach in both cases takes one over to the weak side of both storms and as one progress further and further from the path the winds would back so they would end up in a direction so one could then reach to close reach on the starboard tack. Perhaps this is what is confusing you. You apparently are using the standard knowledge when one is already caught in the strong circulation of a storm whereas I don't wait that long and have more comfortable options. CN As for nobody else commenting. How could they? For them a hurricane is something to evacuate their house for. "Nav" wrote in message ... No, it will mean you never leave the quadrant as you will be sailing parallel or towards the hurricane track. The hurricane moves ~ NW until it recurves. I say again, you sail close hauled on starboard tack away from the likely track as fast as possible Isn't it interesting that no one else is commenting on this sailing thread? Cheers Capt. NealŽ wrote: Depends where you are in respect to the dangerous quadrant. For example. Say I am in George Town in the Bahamas and a 'cane is coming up from the Mona passage area. In George Town I would first feel a wind from the Northeast as it approaches. I put the NE wind on my starboard quarter and sail off towards the Cay Sal bank and Cuba. This direction will get me out of danger of the dangerous quadrant and allow me to sail a nice comfortable broad reach. CN "Nav" wrote in message ... I don't think this right. In the northern hemisphere, you should try escape the most dangerous quadrant by sailing close hauled on starboard to move off the hurricane track as fast as possible. Cheers Capt. NealŽ wrote: One escapes the dangerous quadrant (assuming sea room all around) [and in the northern hemisphere] not by beating into the winds but by putting them on one's quarter. CN "Nav" wrote in message ... You would not try to escape the dangerous quadrant of a storm or worse? Cheers Capt. NealŽ wrote: Yes it will. Cruisers don't even attempt to go to weather in those conditions. There's always an alternative destination downwind. CN "Nav" wrote in message ... It won't ride over them and stay dry they get 4m high. Chhers Capt. NealŽ wrote: That's where you racers fail to appreciate a real cruising boat. Look at my bow. It does not bury and throw spray the length of the boat. It does not have that slack entry like race boats nor a hull design with no shear so the bow is no higher than the gunnels in the center of the yacht. I've seen race boats punching through waves. My fine blue water cruising yacht rides up and over the waves. CN "Nav" wrote in message ... Capt. NealŽ wrote: ON A SPLIT BACKSTAY WAY DOWN ON THE COAMING? You must have an awfully poor design there. The only time I get salt water in the cockpit is running downwind in a gale. Upwind it's dry. Have you really never sailed to windward in a big sea -you know when the bow buries and spray flies everywhere? Cheers |
Thanks Seahag,
Don't listen to Scotty, he's just jealous! I made my own out of an old 300 gallon oil tank. Scout "Seahag" wrote in message ... Good for Scout! We had a couple of really nice fires over the weekend. I just love watching a wood fi^) Seahag "Scott Vernon" wrote: Oh, one of those yuppie fireplace things, I think Scout has one too. "Seahag" wrote: Freestanding outdoor fireplace thingamabob for Tim's (grey haired dude from the boatyard?) backyard so we don't freeze running Scupper! Sheesh! "Scott Vernon" wrote: "Chiminea for Tim'' ??? "Seahag" wrote: It might take longer, we bought a Chiminea for Tim yesterday...gonna have fires all winter! |
Starbuck's is nasty stuff....Tanzanian Peaberry...that's one of the best
beans around....also almost any bean from Kenya... "Michael" wrote in message ... Doug you have it right again. I say if you want to be snobbish about something make it worthwhile. Now being from the great PNW I'm proud to be a bona fide Seattle Coffee Snob. Ahhhh...a good dark roast is just the thing when properly made. None of that commercialized Starbucks Crap-ola. We sensitive palates demand and get better fare. Starbucks is for the rest of the planet. On the other hand Doug beer snobs aren't all that bad. They don't hold a candle to California Snobs who exist only because they think a 't' is a 'b.' "DSK" wrote in message . .. Scott Vernon wrote: When I drank beer, back in my teens, I preferred Rolling Rock. We already have enough beer snobs on this NG. I like Rolling Rock. It's not in the running for Best Beer In The World but (as even Mooron acknowledged) a cold one on a hot day really hits the spot. Beer snobbery is just plain dumb. There are much more important things to get snobby about. Besides, if I try to be a good host and stock four or five kinds of beer on the boat, and guests turn up their nose at all choices, then they can always drink water. Or tea. Fresh Breezes- Doug |
If Starbucks is so bad, how come there's one on every corner? They
seem to be busy. SV "Michael" wrote in message ... Doug you have it right again. I say if you want to be snobbish about something make it worthwhile. Now being from the great PNW I'm proud to be a bona fide Seattle Coffee Snob. Ahhhh...a good dark roast is just the thing when properly made. None of that commercialized Starbucks Crap-ola. We sensitive palates demand and get better fare. Starbucks is for the rest of the planet. On the other hand Doug beer snobs aren't all that bad. They don't hold a candle to California Snobs who exist only because they think a 't' is a 'b.' "DSK" wrote in message . .. Scott Vernon wrote: When I drank beer, back in my teens, I preferred Rolling Rock. We already have enough beer snobs on this NG. I like Rolling Rock. It's not in the running for Best Beer In The World but (as even Mooron acknowledged) a cold one on a hot day really hits the spot. Beer snobbery is just plain dumb. There are much more important things to get snobby about. Besides, if I try to be a good host and stock four or five kinds of beer on the boat, and guests turn up their nose at all choices, then they can always drink water. Or tea. Fresh Breezes- Doug |
Well, that's more like it. I have a few of those tanks out back. Did
you cut it vertically or horizontally? Truck wheels make nice fire rings for campsites. Scott Vernon Plowville Pa _/)__/)_/)_ "Scout" wrote in message ... Thanks Seahag, Don't listen to Scotty, he's just jealous! I made my own out of an old 300 gallon oil tank. Scout "Seahag" wrote in message ... Good for Scout! We had a couple of really nice fires over the weekend. I just love watching a wood fi^) Seahag "Scott Vernon" wrote: Oh, one of those yuppie fireplace things, I think Scout has one too. "Seahag" wrote: Freestanding outdoor fireplace thingamabob for Tim's (grey haired dude from the boatyard?) backyard so we don't freeze running Scupper! Sheesh! "Scott Vernon" wrote: "Chiminea for Tim'' ??? "Seahag" wrote: It might take longer, we bought a Chiminea for Tim yesterday...gonna have fires all winter! |
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