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Capt. Neal® November 29th 04 11:12 PM

Where should I go next year.
 
The Caribbean is becoming old hat though
the Bahamas still have many locales I have
not seen.

I'm kicking around the possibility of going
'round the Horn and heading off to the
South Sea islands. Of course, I would
continue around to close the circle.

I figure at my leisurely pace it should take
three or four years.

The question I must ask is could you guys
and gals survive that long without me?

CN



Jonathan Ganz November 29th 04 11:43 PM

In article ,
=?iso-8859-1?Q?Capt._Neal=AE?= wrote:
The Caribbean is becoming old hat though
the Bahamas still have many locales I have
not seen.

I'm kicking around the possibility of going
'round the Horn and heading off to the
South Sea islands. Of course, I would
continue around to close the circle.

I figure at my leisurely pace it should take
three or four years.

The question I must ask is could you guys
and gals survive that long without me?


You got convicted again?? You need to get a better lawyer. Maybe Dave
can recommend someone.

--
Jonathan Ganz (j gan z @ $ail no w.c=o=m)
http://www.sailnow.com
"If there's no wind, row."


Scout November 29th 04 11:52 PM

"Capt. Neal®" wrote in message
...
The Caribbean is becoming old hat though
the Bahamas still have many locales I have
not seen.

I'm kicking around the possibility of going
'round the Horn and heading off to the
South Sea islands. Of course, I would
continue around to close the circle.

I figure at my leisurely pace it should take
three or four years.

The question I must ask is could you guys
and gals survive that long without me?

CN


I knew a guy in college who said he could roller skate from Bethlehem, PA to
Chicago, Il., with a case of beer on his back. He had been gone for a few
hours when we went out looking for him. We've found him next to the empty
case, drunk and asleep.
Scout



Jonathan Ganz November 30th 04 12:18 AM

In article ,
Scout wrote:
"Capt. Neal®" wrote in message
...
The Caribbean is becoming old hat though
the Bahamas still have many locales I have
not seen.

I'm kicking around the possibility of going
'round the Horn and heading off to the
South Sea islands. Of course, I would
continue around to close the circle.

I figure at my leisurely pace it should take
three or four years.

The question I must ask is could you guys
and gals survive that long without me?

CN


I knew a guy in college who said he could roller skate from Bethlehem, PA to
Chicago, Il., with a case of beer on his back. He had been gone for a few
hours when we went out looking for him. We've found him next to the empty
case, drunk and asleep.
Scout


Scout, it would only be analogous to Crapton if he when he woke up, he
claimed he'd actually done it.



--
Jonathan Ganz (j gan z @ $ail no w.c=o=m)
http://www.sailnow.com
"If there's no wind, row."


Nav November 30th 04 12:21 AM

You wan't to go 'round the Horn in your boat from east to west?

Good luck.

Cheers



Capt. Neal® wrote:

The Caribbean is becoming old hat though
the Bahamas still have many locales I have
not seen.

I'm kicking around the possibility of going
'round the Horn and heading off to the
South Sea islands. Of course, I would
continue around to close the circle.

I figure at my leisurely pace it should take
three or four years.

The question I must ask is could you guys
and gals survive that long without me?

CN




Capt. Neal® November 30th 04 12:43 AM

It's not all that difficult given the right time of year
which would be mid-winter here, mid-summer there.

Every real sailor should round the great Capes to
starboard. That's what sailboats and sailors were
created to do - thwart the will of God!

God loves nothing better than to see a man doing
that which God has made very difficult or near
impossible. God put it in our genes.

CN


"Nav" wrote in message ...
You wan't to go 'round the Horn in your boat from east to west?

Good luck.

Cheers



Capt. Neal® wrote:

The Caribbean is becoming old hat though
the Bahamas still have many locales I have
not seen.

I'm kicking around the possibility of going
'round the Horn and heading off to the
South Sea islands. Of course, I would
continue around to close the circle.

I figure at my leisurely pace it should take
three or four years.

The question I must ask is could you guys
and gals survive that long without me?

CN





Nav November 30th 04 12:47 AM

You think mid summer is the best time?

Cheers

Capt. Neal® wrote:

It's not all that difficult given the right time of year
which would be mid-winter here, mid-summer there.

Every real sailor should round the great Capes to
starboard. That's what sailboats and sailors were
created to do - thwart the will of God!

God loves nothing better than to see a man doing
that which God has made very difficult or near
impossible. God put it in our genes.

CN


"Nav" wrote in message ...

You wan't to go 'round the Horn in your boat from east to west?

Good luck.

Cheers



Capt. Neal® wrote:


The Caribbean is becoming old hat though
the Bahamas still have many locales I have
not seen.

I'm kicking around the possibility of going
'round the Horn and heading off to the
South Sea islands. Of course, I would
continue around to close the circle.

I figure at my leisurely pace it should take
three or four years.

The question I must ask is could you guys
and gals survive that long without me?

CN






Scout November 30th 04 12:47 AM

Just remember that God and also have your genes hanging onto the keel of
your capsized boat.
I honestly don't want that to happen to you CN, but if it should, I'll try
to snag your pic with my Keyhole satellite software!
Scout

"Capt. Neal®" wrote in message
...
It's not all that difficult given the right time of year
which would be mid-winter here, mid-summer there.

Every real sailor should round the great Capes to
starboard. That's what sailboats and sailors were
created to do - thwart the will of God!

God loves nothing better than to see a man doing
that which God has made very difficult or near
impossible. God put it in our genes.

CN


"Nav" wrote in message
...
You wan't to go 'round the Horn in your boat from east to west?

Good luck.

Cheers



Capt. Neal® wrote:

The Caribbean is becoming old hat though
the Bahamas still have many locales I have
not seen.

I'm kicking around the possibility of going
'round the Horn and heading off to the
South Sea islands. Of course, I would
continue around to close the circle.

I figure at my leisurely pace it should take
three or four years.

The question I must ask is could you guys
and gals survive that long without me?

CN







Capt. Neal® November 30th 04 12:54 AM

Fewer winter gales in mid-summer. It's the sensible time
to attack Cape Horn. One could freeze to death in the
winter before making it around.

CN


"Nav" wrote in message ...
You think mid summer is the best time?

Cheers

Capt. Neal® wrote:

It's not all that difficult given the right time of year
which would be mid-winter here, mid-summer there.

Every real sailor should round the great Capes to
starboard. That's what sailboats and sailors were
created to do - thwart the will of God!

God loves nothing better than to see a man doing
that which God has made very difficult or near
impossible. God put it in our genes.

CN


"Nav" wrote in message ...

You wan't to go 'round the Horn in your boat from east to west?

Good luck.

Cheers



Capt. Neal® wrote:


The Caribbean is becoming old hat though
the Bahamas still have many locales I have
not seen.

I'm kicking around the possibility of going
'round the Horn and heading off to the
South Sea islands. Of course, I would
continue around to close the circle.

I figure at my leisurely pace it should take
three or four years.

The question I must ask is could you guys
and gals survive that long without me?

CN







Nav November 30th 04 12:57 AM

But are there fewer gales mid summer than autumn?

Cheers

Capt. Neal® wrote:

Fewer winter gales in mid-summer. It's the sensible time
to attack Cape Horn. One could freeze to death in the
winter before making it around.

CN


"Nav" wrote in message ...

You think mid summer is the best time?

Cheers

Capt. Neal® wrote:


It's not all that difficult given the right time of year
which would be mid-winter here, mid-summer there.

Every real sailor should round the great Capes to
starboard. That's what sailboats and sailors were
created to do - thwart the will of God!

God loves nothing better than to see a man doing
that which God has made very difficult or near
impossible. God put it in our genes.

CN


"Nav" wrote in message ...


You wan't to go 'round the Horn in your boat from east to west?

Good luck.

Cheers



Capt. Neal® wrote:



The Caribbean is becoming old hat though
the Bahamas still have many locales I have
not seen.

I'm kicking around the possibility of going
'round the Horn and heading off to the
South Sea islands. Of course, I would
continue around to close the circle.

I figure at my leisurely pace it should take
three or four years.

The question I must ask is could you guys
and gals survive that long without me?

CN






Jonathan Ganz November 30th 04 01:00 AM

In article ,
=?iso-8859-1?Q?Capt._Neal=AE?= wrote:
It's not all that difficult given the right time of year
which would be mid-winter here, mid-summer there.

Every real sailor should round the great Capes to
starboard. That's what sailboats and sailors were
created to do - thwart the will of God!

God loves nothing better than to see a man doing
that which God has made very difficult or near
impossible. God put it in our genes.


That's why you live on a boat the size of a closet.

--
Jonathan Ganz (j gan z @ $ail no w.c=o=m)
http://www.sailnow.com
"If there's no wind, row."


Capt. Neal® November 30th 04 01:05 AM

Fewer mid summer because the gales tend to travel west to east at lower latitudes
in mid-summer. Autumn is a bad time because the gales are occurring further
north.

CN


"Nav" wrote in message ...
But are there fewer gales mid summer than autumn?

Cheers

Capt. Neal® wrote:

Fewer winter gales in mid-summer. It's the sensible time
to attack Cape Horn. One could freeze to death in the
winter before making it around.

CN


"Nav" wrote in message ...

You think mid summer is the best time?

Cheers

Capt. Neal® wrote:


It's not all that difficult given the right time of year
which would be mid-winter here, mid-summer there.

Every real sailor should round the great Capes to
starboard. That's what sailboats and sailors were
created to do - thwart the will of God!

God loves nothing better than to see a man doing
that which God has made very difficult or near
impossible. God put it in our genes.

CN


"Nav" wrote in message ...


You wan't to go 'round the Horn in your boat from east to west?

Good luck.

Cheers



Capt. Neal® wrote:



The Caribbean is becoming old hat though
the Bahamas still have many locales I have
not seen.

I'm kicking around the possibility of going
'round the Horn and heading off to the
South Sea islands. Of course, I would
continue around to close the circle.

I figure at my leisurely pace it should take
three or four years.

The question I must ask is could you guys
and gals survive that long without me?

CN







Gilligan November 30th 04 01:07 AM

Rounding the Capes is second only to circumnavigations. H.W. Tilman, the
Great Pilot Cutter Captain and mountaineer, after failing on a climbing
expedition, decided to circumnavigate Africa (he sailed to his mountains).
Since you've already completed the circumnavigation of Cuba and select Keys,
I would suggest circumnavigating Australia, or South America. This type of
circumnavigation, done correctly, is coastal cruising with challenging blue
water passages. As you know, the coastal part requires much more alertness
so the blue water parts would be a welcome relief, almost relaxation.

Gilligan

"Capt. Neal®" wrote in message
...
The Caribbean is becoming old hat though
the Bahamas still have many locales I have
not seen.

I'm kicking around the possibility of going
'round the Horn and heading off to the
South Sea islands. Of course, I would
continue around to close the circle.

I figure at my leisurely pace it should take
three or four years.

The question I must ask is could you guys
and gals survive that long without me?

CN





Capt. Neal® November 30th 04 01:23 AM

Very true about the coastal cruising aspect. Even the great Joshua
Slocum came to grief off the coast near the mouth of the great
Amazon river. It seems the currents and shoals are uncharted and
extend a great distance seaward.

I would love to coastal cruise down to the Horn, round it and
then try a long blue water voyage to the South Sea islands
just because once you start there's no going back and every
real sailor should traverse the Pacific Ocean - the mother
of all oceans - in his lifetime.

CN


"Gilligan" wrote in message nk.net...
Rounding the Capes is second only to circumnavigations. H.W. Tilman, the
Great Pilot Cutter Captain and mountaineer, after failing on a climbing
expedition, decided to circumnavigate Africa (he sailed to his mountains).
Since you've already completed the circumnavigation of Cuba and select Keys,
I would suggest circumnavigating Australia, or South America. This type of
circumnavigation, done correctly, is coastal cruising with challenging blue
water passages. As you know, the coastal part requires much more alertness
so the blue water parts would be a welcome relief, almost relaxation.

Gilligan

"Capt. Neal®" wrote in message
...
The Caribbean is becoming old hat though
the Bahamas still have many locales I have
not seen.

I'm kicking around the possibility of going
'round the Horn and heading off to the
South Sea islands. Of course, I would
continue around to close the circle.

I figure at my leisurely pace it should take
three or four years.

The question I must ask is could you guys
and gals survive that long without me?

CN






Jonathan Ganz November 30th 04 01:27 AM

In article ,
=?Windows-1252?Q?Capt._Neal=AE?= wrote:
Very true about the coastal cruising aspect. Even the great Joshua
Slocum came to grief off the coast near the mouth of the great
Amazon river. It seems the currents and shoals are uncharted and
extend a great distance seaward.

I would love to coastal cruise down to the Horn, round it and
then try a long blue water voyage to the South Sea islands
just because once you start there's no going back and every
real sailor should traverse the Pacific Ocean - the mother
of all oceans - in his lifetime.


Not that there's any remote possibility of Crapton actually doing it,
but I'd strongly suggest staying away from California. We have strong
pollution laws here.

--
Jonathan Ganz (j gan z @ $ail no w.c=o=m)
http://www.sailnow.com
"If there's no wind, row."


katysails November 30th 04 01:55 AM

Why not go to Venezuela? My sister-on-law went there for Operation Smile
and the pictures she took were magnificent. You'd have to watch for pirates
bug time, though...

"Capt. Neal®" wrote in message
...
The Caribbean is becoming old hat though
the Bahamas still have many locales I have
not seen.

I'm kicking around the possibility of going
'round the Horn and heading off to the
South Sea islands. Of course, I would
continue around to close the circle.

I figure at my leisurely pace it should take
three or four years.

The question I must ask is could you guys
and gals survive that long without me?

CN





katysails November 30th 04 01:57 AM

You're going to take CTM starboard through Tierra Del Fuego??? Bye...nice
knowing you...Where would you like the memorial check sent?

"Capt. Neal®" wrote in message
...
It's not all that difficult given the right time of year
which would be mid-winter here, mid-summer there.

Every real sailor should round the great Capes to
starboard. That's what sailboats and sailors were
created to do - thwart the will of God!

God loves nothing better than to see a man doing
that which God has made very difficult or near
impossible. God put it in our genes.

CN


"Nav" wrote in message
...
You wan't to go 'round the Horn in your boat from east to west?

Good luck.

Cheers



Capt. Neal® wrote:

The Caribbean is becoming old hat though
the Bahamas still have many locales I have
not seen.

I'm kicking around the possibility of going
'round the Horn and heading off to the
South Sea islands. Of course, I would
continue around to close the circle.

I figure at my leisurely pace it should take
three or four years.

The question I must ask is could you guys
and gals survive that long without me?

CN







gonefishiing November 30th 04 02:01 AM

code speak?

Operation Smile
CIA operative dealing with the drug trade in SA?

pirates bug time
Curfew for sailors?

gf.



"katysails" wrote in message
...
Why not go to Venezuela? My sister-on-law went there for Operation Smile
and the pictures she took were magnificent. You'd have to watch for
pirates bug time, though...

"Capt. Neal®" wrote in message
...
The Caribbean is becoming old hat though
the Bahamas still have many locales I have
not seen.

I'm kicking around the possibility of going
'round the Horn and heading off to the
South Sea islands. Of course, I would
continue around to close the circle.

I figure at my leisurely pace it should take
three or four years.

The question I must ask is could you guys
and gals survive that long without me?

CN







Capt. Neal® November 30th 04 02:03 AM

Venezuela and Colombia are supposed to be two of the
worst places for pirates in the Western Hemisphere.

You'd like me to go there, wouldn't you? :-)

CN


"katysails" wrote in message ...
Why not go to Venezuela? My sister-on-law went there for Operation Smile
and the pictures she took were magnificent. You'd have to watch for pirates
bug time, though...

"Capt. Neal®" wrote in message
...
The Caribbean is becoming old hat though
the Bahamas still have many locales I have
not seen.

I'm kicking around the possibility of going
'round the Horn and heading off to the
South Sea islands. Of course, I would
continue around to close the circle.

I figure at my leisurely pace it should take
three or four years.

The question I must ask is could you guys
and gals survive that long without me?

CN






Capt. Neal® November 30th 04 02:04 AM

Naw, the Straits of Magellan are for sissies. I'm thinking of going
around the entire mess like the good Captain in the movie
"Master and Commander".

CN


"katysails" wrote in message ...
You're going to take CTM starboard through Tierra Del Fuego??? Bye...nice
knowing you...Where would you like the memorial check sent?

"Capt. Neal®" wrote in message
...
It's not all that difficult given the right time of year
which would be mid-winter here, mid-summer there.

Every real sailor should round the great Capes to
starboard. That's what sailboats and sailors were
created to do - thwart the will of God!

God loves nothing better than to see a man doing
that which God has made very difficult or near
impossible. God put it in our genes.

CN


"Nav" wrote in message
...
You wan't to go 'round the Horn in your boat from east to west?

Good luck.

Cheers



Capt. Neal® wrote:

The Caribbean is becoming old hat though
the Bahamas still have many locales I have
not seen.

I'm kicking around the possibility of going
'round the Horn and heading off to the
South Sea islands. Of course, I would
continue around to close the circle.

I figure at my leisurely pace it should take
three or four years.

The question I must ask is could you guys
and gals survive that long without me?

CN








katysails November 30th 04 02:23 AM

Cleft palate repair by American medical teams in 3rd world countries...

"gonefishiing" wrote in message
...
code speak?

Operation Smile
CIA operative dealing with the drug trade in SA?

pirates bug time
Curfew for sailors?

gf.



"katysails" wrote in message
...
Why not go to Venezuela? My sister-on-law went there for Operation Smile
and the pictures she took were magnificent. You'd have to watch for
pirates bug time, though...

"Capt. Neal®" wrote in message
...
The Caribbean is becoming old hat though
the Bahamas still have many locales I have
not seen.

I'm kicking around the possibility of going
'round the Horn and heading off to the
South Sea islands. Of course, I would
continue around to close the circle.

I figure at my leisurely pace it should take
three or four years.

The question I must ask is could you guys
and gals survive that long without me?

CN









katysails November 30th 04 02:24 AM

You'd fit right in...no one would notice you...

"Capt. Neal®" wrote in message
...
Venezuela and Colombia are supposed to be two of the
worst places for pirates in the Western Hemisphere.

You'd like me to go there, wouldn't you? :-)

CN


"katysails" wrote in message
...
Why not go to Venezuela? My sister-on-law went there for Operation Smile
and the pictures she took were magnificent. You'd have to watch for
pirates
bug time, though...

"Capt. Neal®" wrote in message
...
The Caribbean is becoming old hat though
the Bahamas still have many locales I have
not seen.

I'm kicking around the possibility of going
'round the Horn and heading off to the
South Sea islands. Of course, I would
continue around to close the circle.

I figure at my leisurely pace it should take
three or four years.

The question I must ask is could you guys
and gals survive that long without me?

CN








Nav November 30th 04 02:41 AM

Yes, that is correct. March is probably the best time but the gales are
no less terrible. The seas are steep and beating into them takes a
vessel that drives into a breaking sea well. I'm not sure that Bill Trip
designed the 27 with beating into the screaming 50's and Cape Horn in
mind. Forget using your outboard to help. Perhaps you might like to
consider the Straits instead?

Cheers

Capt. Neal® wrote:

Fewer mid summer because the gales tend to travel west to east at lower latitudes
in mid-summer. Autumn is a bad time because the gales are occurring further
north.

CN


"Nav" wrote in message ...

But are there fewer gales mid summer than autumn?

Cheers

Capt. Neal® wrote:


Fewer winter gales in mid-summer. It's the sensible time
to attack Cape Horn. One could freeze to death in the
winter before making it around.

CN


"Nav" wrote in message ...


You think mid summer is the best time?

Cheers

Capt. Neal® wrote:



It's not all that difficult given the right time of year
which would be mid-winter here, mid-summer there.

Every real sailor should round the great Capes to
starboard. That's what sailboats and sailors were
created to do - thwart the will of God!

God loves nothing better than to see a man doing
that which God has made very difficult or near
impossible. God put it in our genes.

CN


"Nav" wrote in message ...



You wan't to go 'round the Horn in your boat from east to west?

Good luck.

Cheers



Capt. Neal® wrote:




The Caribbean is becoming old hat though
the Bahamas still have many locales I have
not seen.

I'm kicking around the possibility of going
'round the Horn and heading off to the
South Sea islands. Of course, I would
continue around to close the circle.

I figure at my leisurely pace it should take
three or four years.

The question I must ask is could you guys
and gals survive that long without me?

CN






Capt. Neal® November 30th 04 02:48 AM

I have a theory about the Horn that I'd like to check out.

With the prevailing westerlies comes a prevailing current
from the same direction.

Look at the shape of the horn and it's easy to picture
a swirl of current in a counter-clockwise circle just
east of the Horn. This would indicate to me that there
is a favorable current close to shore right out to the tip
of the Horn itself.

I think a crafty sailor in a small cruiser could take
advantage of this current to place himself in a
position to go round the Horn given some winds
that weren't overly stiff which winds do occur
from time to time in the summer and winter for
that matter. One could lie close in in the lee
of the Horn and use the current even if the
winds were partially blocked by the Cape
to progress right out into open water but
close to the Horn itself which I understand
is deep right up to the rocks.

It's a plan. A thinking sailor's plan.

CN


"Nav" wrote in message ...
Yes, that is correct. March is probably the best time but the gales are
no less terrible. The seas are steep and beating into them takes a
vessel that drives into a breaking sea well. I'm not sure that Bill Trip
designed the 27 with beating into the screaming 50's and Cape Horn in
mind. Forget using your outboard to help. Perhaps you might like to
consider the Straits instead?

Cheers

Capt. Neal® wrote:

Fewer mid summer because the gales tend to travel west to east at lower latitudes
in mid-summer. Autumn is a bad time because the gales are occurring further
north.

CN


"Nav" wrote in message ...

But are there fewer gales mid summer than autumn?

Cheers

Capt. Neal® wrote:


Fewer winter gales in mid-summer. It's the sensible time
to attack Cape Horn. One could freeze to death in the
winter before making it around.

CN


"Nav" wrote in message ...


You think mid summer is the best time?

Cheers

Capt. Neal® wrote:



It's not all that difficult given the right time of year
which would be mid-winter here, mid-summer there.

Every real sailor should round the great Capes to
starboard. That's what sailboats and sailors were
created to do - thwart the will of God!

God loves nothing better than to see a man doing
that which God has made very difficult or near
impossible. God put it in our genes.

CN


"Nav" wrote in message ...



You wan't to go 'round the Horn in your boat from east to west?

Good luck.

Cheers



Capt. Neal® wrote:




The Caribbean is becoming old hat though
the Bahamas still have many locales I have
not seen.

I'm kicking around the possibility of going
'round the Horn and heading off to the
South Sea islands. Of course, I would
continue around to close the circle.

I figure at my leisurely pace it should take
three or four years.

The question I must ask is could you guys
and gals survive that long without me?

CN







Jonathan Ganz November 30th 04 02:53 AM

In article ,
=?iso-8859-1?Q?Capt._Neal=AE?= wrote:
It's a plan. A thinking sailor's plan.


If you're a congenital idiot, then it's a plan.

--
Jonathan Ganz (j gan z @ $ail no w.c=o=m)
http://www.sailnow.com
"If there's no wind, row."


Nav November 30th 04 03:00 AM

The trouble is there are huge williwaws close in.

Cheers

Capt. Neal® wrote:

I have a theory about the Horn that I'd like to check out.

With the prevailing westerlies comes a prevailing current
from the same direction.

Look at the shape of the horn and it's easy to picture
a swirl of current in a counter-clockwise circle just
east of the Horn. This would indicate to me that there
is a favorable current close to shore right out to the tip
of the Horn itself.

I think a crafty sailor in a small cruiser could take
advantage of this current to place himself in a
position to go round the Horn given some winds
that weren't overly stiff which winds do occur
from time to time in the summer and winter for
that matter. One could lie close in in the lee
of the Horn and use the current even if the
winds were partially blocked by the Cape
to progress right out into open water but
close to the Horn itself which I understand
is deep right up to the rocks.

It's a plan. A thinking sailor's plan.

CN


"Nav" wrote in message ...

Yes, that is correct. March is probably the best time but the gales are
no less terrible. The seas are steep and beating into them takes a
vessel that drives into a breaking sea well. I'm not sure that Bill Trip
designed the 27 with beating into the screaming 50's and Cape Horn in
mind. Forget using your outboard to help. Perhaps you might like to
consider the Straits instead?

Cheers

Capt. Neal® wrote:


Fewer mid summer because the gales tend to travel west to east at lower latitudes
in mid-summer. Autumn is a bad time because the gales are occurring further
north.

CN


"Nav" wrote in message ...


But are there fewer gales mid summer than autumn?

Cheers

Capt. Neal® wrote:



Fewer winter gales in mid-summer. It's the sensible time
to attack Cape Horn. One could freeze to death in the
winter before making it around.

CN


"Nav" wrote in message ...



You think mid summer is the best time?

Cheers

Capt. Neal® wrote:




It's not all that difficult given the right time of year
which would be mid-winter here, mid-summer there.

Every real sailor should round the great Capes to
starboard. That's what sailboats and sailors were
created to do - thwart the will of God!

God loves nothing better than to see a man doing
that which God has made very difficult or near
impossible. God put it in our genes.

CN


"Nav" wrote in message ...




You wan't to go 'round the Horn in your boat from east to west?

Good luck.

Cheers



Capt. Neal® wrote:





The Caribbean is becoming old hat though
the Bahamas still have many locales I have
not seen.

I'm kicking around the possibility of going
'round the Horn and heading off to the
South Sea islands. Of course, I would
continue around to close the circle.

I figure at my leisurely pace it should take
three or four years.

The question I must ask is could you guys
and gals survive that long without me?

CN






katysails November 30th 04 03:09 AM

Nah...that's a shark bait plan.....that current is where all the big sharks
live and wait for sailors like you to come along and get dumped for
dinner...

"Capt. Neal®" wrote in message
...
I have a theory about the Horn that I'd like to check out.

With the prevailing westerlies comes a prevailing current
from the same direction.

Look at the shape of the horn and it's easy to picture
a swirl of current in a counter-clockwise circle just
east of the Horn. This would indicate to me that there
is a favorable current close to shore right out to the tip
of the Horn itself.

I think a crafty sailor in a small cruiser could take
advantage of this current to place himself in a
position to go round the Horn given some winds
that weren't overly stiff which winds do occur
from time to time in the summer and winter for
that matter. One could lie close in in the lee
of the Horn and use the current even if the
winds were partially blocked by the Cape
to progress right out into open water but
close to the Horn itself which I understand
is deep right up to the rocks.

It's a plan. A thinking sailor's plan.

CN


"Nav" wrote in message
...
Yes, that is correct. March is probably the best time but the gales are
no less terrible. The seas are steep and beating into them takes a
vessel that drives into a breaking sea well. I'm not sure that Bill Trip
designed the 27 with beating into the screaming 50's and Cape Horn in
mind. Forget using your outboard to help. Perhaps you might like to
consider the Straits instead?

Cheers

Capt. Neal® wrote:

Fewer mid summer because the gales tend to travel west to east at lower
latitudes
in mid-summer. Autumn is a bad time because the gales are occurring
further
north.

CN


"Nav" wrote in message
...

But are there fewer gales mid summer than autumn?

Cheers

Capt. Neal® wrote:


Fewer winter gales in mid-summer. It's the sensible time
to attack Cape Horn. One could freeze to death in the
winter before making it around.

CN


"Nav" wrote in message
...


You think mid summer is the best time?

Cheers

Capt. Neal® wrote:



It's not all that difficult given the right time of year
which would be mid-winter here, mid-summer there.

Every real sailor should round the great Capes to
starboard. That's what sailboats and sailors were
created to do - thwart the will of God!

God loves nothing better than to see a man doing
that which God has made very difficult or near
impossible. God put it in our genes.

CN


"Nav" wrote in message
...



You wan't to go 'round the Horn in your boat from east to west?

Good luck.

Cheers



Capt. Neal® wrote:




The Caribbean is becoming old hat though
the Bahamas still have many locales I have
not seen.

I'm kicking around the possibility of going
'round the Horn and heading off to the
South Sea islands. Of course, I would
continue around to close the circle.

I figure at my leisurely pace it should take
three or four years.

The question I must ask is could you guys
and gals survive that long without me?

CN









Horvath November 30th 04 11:57 AM

On Mon, 29 Nov 2004 21:04:42 -0500, Capt. Neal®
wrote this crap:

Naw, the Straits of Magellan are for sissies. I'm thinking of going
around the entire mess like the good Captain in the movie
"Master and Commander".


He lost a man.




Pathetic Earthlings! No one can save you now!

Joe November 30th 04 03:27 PM

Capt. Neal® wrote in message ...
The Caribbean is becoming old hat though
the Bahamas still have many locales I have
not seen.

I'm kicking around the possibility of going
'round the Horn and heading off to the
South Sea islands. Of course, I would
continue around to close the circle.


Sounds like a challenge to be taken.

I'll meet you at the equator head to Christmas stop in Palmyra, head
to the bakers, Howland, Gilberts, Tarawa, Marshall's, Wake, Marcus,
Phillippines, Hong Kong, Vietnam, Singapore, Sri Lanka, India,
Pakistan, Iran ,Kuwait, Oman, Yeman, Egypt, Turkey, Greece, Italy,
Spain, Carninals, Florida.



I figure at my leisurely pace it should take
three or four years.

The question I must ask is could you guys
and gals survive that long without me?



With the right equipment onboard you could update the group as you
go. But it would have to be a pay to view website to make it worth
while.

Joe



CN


SAIL LOCO November 30th 04 04:46 PM

I'm kicking around the possibility of going 'round the Horn and heading off
to the South Sea islands. Of course, I would continue around to close the
circle.

By all means do it. And don't forget to sail around Indonesia.
S/V Express 30 "Ringmaster"
"Trains are a winter sport"

John Cairns November 30th 04 08:22 PM


"Nav" wrote in message
...
Yes, that is correct. March is probably the best time but the gales are no
less terrible. The seas are steep and beating into them takes a vessel
that drives into a breaking sea well. I'm not sure that Bill Trip designed
the 27 with beating into the screaming 50's and Cape Horn in mind. Forget
using your outboard to help. Perhaps you might like to consider the
Straits instead?

Cheers


On a virtual voyage you can choose any route.
Bwahahahahhahahahahhaahaha
John Cairns


Capt. Neal® wrote:

Fewer mid summer because the gales tend to travel west to east at lower
latitudes
in mid-summer. Autumn is a bad time because the gales are occurring
further
north.

CN


"Nav" wrote in message
...

But are there fewer gales mid summer than autumn?

Cheers

Capt. Neal® wrote:


Fewer winter gales in mid-summer. It's the sensible time
to attack Cape Horn. One could freeze to death in the
winter before making it around.

CN


"Nav" wrote in message
...


You think mid summer is the best time?

Cheers

Capt. Neal® wrote:



It's not all that difficult given the right time of year
which would be mid-winter here, mid-summer there.

Every real sailor should round the great Capes to
starboard. That's what sailboats and sailors were
created to do - thwart the will of God!

God loves nothing better than to see a man doing
that which God has made very difficult or near
impossible. God put it in our genes.

CN


"Nav" wrote in message
...



You wan't to go 'round the Horn in your boat from east to west?

Good luck.

Cheers



Capt. Neal® wrote:




The Caribbean is becoming old hat though
the Bahamas still have many locales I have
not seen.

I'm kicking around the possibility of going
'round the Horn and heading off to the
South Sea islands. Of course, I would
continue around to close the circle.

I figure at my leisurely pace it should take
three or four years.

The question I must ask is could you guys
and gals survive that long without me?

CN








Capt. Neal® November 30th 04 09:34 PM

Do you think that heavy steel boat could keep up with
my modern GRP machine?

I think I'd like to hit Viet Nam. Might be able to find
a suitable mate there who has not been spoiled by
western philosophy.

CN


"Joe" wrote in message om...
Capt. Neal® wrote in message ...
The Caribbean is becoming old hat though
the Bahamas still have many locales I have
not seen.

I'm kicking around the possibility of going
'round the Horn and heading off to the
South Sea islands. Of course, I would
continue around to close the circle.


Sounds like a challenge to be taken.

I'll meet you at the equator head to Christmas stop in Palmyra, head
to the bakers, Howland, Gilberts, Tarawa, Marshall's, Wake, Marcus,
Phillippines, Hong Kong, Vietnam, Singapore, Sri Lanka, India,
Pakistan, Iran ,Kuwait, Oman, Yeman, Egypt, Turkey, Greece, Italy,
Spain, Carninals, Florida.



I figure at my leisurely pace it should take
three or four years.

The question I must ask is could you guys
and gals survive that long without me?



With the right equipment onboard you could update the group as you
go. But it would have to be a pay to view website to make it worth
while.

Joe



CN



BIGMAC November 30th 04 09:54 PM


Do something most yanks will never do,,,,, travel outside of the USA, how
about Europe or Asia? it might teach you something about the real World
possibly.



"Capt. Neal®" wrote in message
...
The Caribbean is becoming old hat though
the Bahamas still have many locales I have
not seen.

I'm kicking around the possibility of going
'round the Horn and heading off to the
South Sea islands. Of course, I would
continue around to close the circle.

I figure at my leisurely pace it should take
three or four years.

The question I must ask is could you guys
and gals survive that long without me?

CN





Nav November 30th 04 10:05 PM



OzOne wrote:
On Tue, 30 Nov 2004 16:34:23 -0500, Capt. Neal®
scribbled thusly:


Do you think that heavy steel boat could keep up with
my modern GRP machine?

I think I'd like to hit Viet Nam. Might be able to find
a suitable mate there who has not been spoiled by
western philosophy.

CN



Homosexuality is much more open there Cappy.
You should be happy.


That's a weak troll Oz. I expect better than that of you :-P

Cheers


Capt. Neal® November 30th 04 10:14 PM

Eat me, Cairns!

CN


"John Cairns" wrote in message om...

"Nav" wrote in message
...
Yes, that is correct. March is probably the best time but the gales are no
less terrible. The seas are steep and beating into them takes a vessel
that drives into a breaking sea well. I'm not sure that Bill Trip designed
the 27 with beating into the screaming 50's and Cape Horn in mind. Forget
using your outboard to help. Perhaps you might like to consider the
Straits instead?

Cheers


On a virtual voyage you can choose any route.
Bwahahahahhahahahahhaahaha
John Cairns


Capt. Neal® wrote:

Fewer mid summer because the gales tend to travel west to east at lower
latitudes
in mid-summer. Autumn is a bad time because the gales are occurring
further
north.

CN


"Nav" wrote in message
...

But are there fewer gales mid summer than autumn?

Cheers

Capt. Neal® wrote:


Fewer winter gales in mid-summer. It's the sensible time
to attack Cape Horn. One could freeze to death in the
winter before making it around.

CN


"Nav" wrote in message
...


You think mid summer is the best time?

Cheers

Capt. Neal® wrote:



It's not all that difficult given the right time of year
which would be mid-winter here, mid-summer there.

Every real sailor should round the great Capes to
starboard. That's what sailboats and sailors were
created to do - thwart the will of God!

God loves nothing better than to see a man doing
that which God has made very difficult or near
impossible. God put it in our genes.

CN


"Nav" wrote in message
...



You wan't to go 'round the Horn in your boat from east to west?

Good luck.

Cheers



Capt. Neal® wrote:




The Caribbean is becoming old hat though
the Bahamas still have many locales I have
not seen.

I'm kicking around the possibility of going
'round the Horn and heading off to the
South Sea islands. Of course, I would
continue around to close the circle.

I figure at my leisurely pace it should take
three or four years.

The question I must ask is could you guys
and gals survive that long without me?

CN









Capt. Neal® November 30th 04 10:16 PM


Another Gaynz wannabe . . .

OzOne wrote in message ...
snipped remainder of the garbage.

Capt. Neal® November 30th 04 10:19 PM


Asia is the real world but Europe?

Bwahahhahahahahahhahahahah! Europe
is a bunch of liberal ******s without a clue.

CN

"BIGMAC" wrote in message ...

Do something most yanks will never do,,,,, travel outside of the USA, how
about Europe or Asia? it might teach you something about the real World
possibly.



"Capt. Neal®" wrote in message
...
The Caribbean is becoming old hat though
the Bahamas still have many locales I have
not seen.

I'm kicking around the possibility of going
'round the Horn and heading off to the
South Sea islands. Of course, I would
continue around to close the circle.

I figure at my leisurely pace it should take
three or four years.

The question I must ask is could you guys
and gals survive that long without me?

CN






John Cairns November 30th 04 10:27 PM


"Capt. Neal®" wrote in message
...
Eat me, Cairns!

CN



Bwahahhahahhahahahhaahhahaha.
John Cairns


"John Cairns" wrote in message
om...

"Nav" wrote in message
...
Yes, that is correct. March is probably the best time but the gales are
no
less terrible. The seas are steep and beating into them takes a vessel
that drives into a breaking sea well. I'm not sure that Bill Trip
designed
the 27 with beating into the screaming 50's and Cape Horn in mind.
Forget
using your outboard to help. Perhaps you might like to consider the
Straits instead?

Cheers


On a virtual voyage you can choose any route.
Bwahahahahhahahahahhaahaha
John Cairns


Capt. Neal® wrote:

Fewer mid summer because the gales tend to travel west to east at
lower
latitudes
in mid-summer. Autumn is a bad time because the gales are occurring
further
north.

CN


"Nav" wrote in message
...

But are there fewer gales mid summer than autumn?

Cheers

Capt. Neal® wrote:


Fewer winter gales in mid-summer. It's the sensible time
to attack Cape Horn. One could freeze to death in the
winter before making it around.

CN


"Nav" wrote in message
...


You think mid summer is the best time?

Cheers

Capt. Neal® wrote:



It's not all that difficult given the right time of year
which would be mid-winter here, mid-summer there.

Every real sailor should round the great Capes to
starboard. That's what sailboats and sailors were
created to do - thwart the will of God!

God loves nothing better than to see a man doing
that which God has made very difficult or near
impossible. God put it in our genes.

CN


"Nav" wrote in message
...



You wan't to go 'round the Horn in your boat from east to west?

Good luck.

Cheers



Capt. Neal® wrote:




The Caribbean is becoming old hat though
the Bahamas still have many locales I have
not seen.

I'm kicking around the possibility of going
'round the Horn and heading off to the
South Sea islands. Of course, I would
continue around to close the circle.

I figure at my leisurely pace it should take
three or four years.

The question I must ask is could you guys
and gals survive that long without me?

CN











John Cairns November 30th 04 10:49 PM


OzOne wrote in message ...
On Tue, 30 Nov 2004 22:27:04 GMT, "John Cairns"
scribbled thusly:


"Capt. Neal®" wrote in message
...
Eat me, Cairns!

CN



Bwahahhahahhahahahhaahhahaha.
John Cairns


Don't open your mouth so wide when you laugh!


Oz1...of the 3 twins.

I welcome you to crackerbox palace,We've been expecting you.


If Nil was in the room I wouldn't.

John Cairns



Nav November 30th 04 11:05 PM



OzOne wrote:

On Wed, 01 Dec 2004 11:05:40 +1300, Nav
scribbled thusly:


That's a weak troll Oz. I expect better than that of you :-P

Cheers



Troll.....Moi?

Face it Nav, Cappy is a dirty old man living in what amounts to a
cardboard box while he trawls the internet looking fo pics of naked or
semi naked women, all whom are well out of his reach, while spinning
stories of his conquest of young girls in Cuba.

He's a cat, Nav.....


Now that's more like it! BUT a cat?

Cheers



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