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Capt. Neal® November 30th 04 02:21 AM

It is a well-known fact that he who resorts to name-calling
or profanity first has acknowledged he has lost the argument.

A nice thank you offered for educating you would have
been more manly


CN


"DSK" wrote in message .. .
Capt. Neal® wrote:
Duh,

Blistered paint at the waterline is caused by osmosis, unless you find
those blisters filled with air.


Is that what happened to your head?

DSK



Jonathan Ganz November 30th 04 02:39 AM

In article ,
=?iso-8859-1?Q?Capt._Neal=AE?= wrote:
It is a well-known fact that he who resorts to name-calling
or profanity first has acknowledged he has lost the argument.


Hahahahaha.... talk about the pot calling the kettle black....


--
Jonathan Ganz (j gan z @ $ail no w.c=o=m)
http://www.sailnow.com
"If there's no wind, row."


Nav November 30th 04 02:47 AM

Well if you can't get it what's the point of suggesting it? You might
have just as well said it burns better than steel. Now if you want to
corrode steel just sprinkle salt on it...

Cheers

Capt. Neal® wrote:

It's Popular Science magazine - an established and
reputable publication.

Photos don't lie unless doctored in Photoshop.

The article says mercury paste was used.

That means it's available. Just because I personally don't
know where to get it is not germane to the situation at hand.

Where's your logic lately?

CN

"Nav" wrote in message ...

I don't doubt that Hg attacks Al - asked you where you get Hg paste.

Cheers

Capt. Neal® wrote:


He Read it and weep.

http://www.popsci.com/popsci/how2/ar...693558,00.html


"Nav" wrote in message ...


Capt. Neal® wrote:



Aluminum is relatively worthless for a boat hull.

All it takes to completely destroy the hull of an
aluminum hulled vessel is a handful of mercury
past smeared on it. It will begin to turn to dust within
hours, break apart and sink.


Hahahha. A handful of mercury?




A stainless steel boat is impervious to just about
anything but strong acids.


How about salt water and time?

Cheers






Nav November 30th 04 02:55 AM

You have no gel coat?

Cheers

DSK wrote:

Capt. Neal® wrote:

No osmosis? Then how on God's green Earth do you think those
little blisters formed?



Easy. Some bonehead (possibly a relative of yours) did not do the
correct surface prep on the hull. Then another person of approximately
the same mental capacity sanded through the barrier coat, allowing water
between the fiberglass and the layers of paint.

Osmotic blisters in fiberglass are a totally different thing from
blistered paint, which can occur on cars or houses...

DSK



DSK November 30th 04 03:22 AM

Nav wrote:
You have no gel coat?


Well, I'd be the better for losing a few pounds... oh you mean the boat...

No. The tugboat was peeled & barrier coated long ago. There is a brief
and ambiguous line in the maintenance log that I think refers to it.
Anyway, the barrier coat may not have been well applied or it may have
failed due to subsequent poor handling... grinding through it in a few
dozen small spots is not good.

However, the fiberglass is all perfectly sound. There was no osmosis
into the laminate at all... in fact, not even any stranded spots (places
where the mat wasn't saturated with resin). Very careful and close
inspection of the whole thing, including the thru-hulls and rudder post
aperture, revealed no trouble. I'm confident that our coating was put on
correctly (if yoou want something done right etc etc) and the hull is
both perfectly sound & well protected for the future.

Fresh Breezes- Doug King


Nav November 30th 04 03:57 AM

Here we peel boats only to fix osmosis problems so, was that the case?

Cheers

DSK wrote:

Nav wrote:

You have no gel coat?



Well, I'd be the better for losing a few pounds... oh you mean the boat...

No. The tugboat was peeled & barrier coated long ago. There is a brief
and ambiguous line in the maintenance log that I think refers to it.
Anyway, the barrier coat may not have been well applied or it may have
failed due to subsequent poor handling... grinding through it in a few
dozen small spots is not good.

However, the fiberglass is all perfectly sound. There was no osmosis
into the laminate at all... in fact, not even any stranded spots (places
where the mat wasn't saturated with resin). Very careful and close
inspection of the whole thing, including the thru-hulls and rudder post
aperture, revealed no trouble. I'm confident that our coating was put on
correctly (if yoou want something done right etc etc) and the hull is
both perfectly sound & well protected for the future.

Fresh Breezes- Doug King



Horvath November 30th 04 12:05 PM

On Tue, 30 Nov 2004 00:49:47 GMT, "Scout"
wrote this crap:

It may be mixed with tuna fat to form a handy paste.



I've never seen fat tunas.





Pathetic Earthlings! No one can save you now!

Rick November 30th 04 12:21 PM

Capt. Neal® wrote:
Aluminum is relatively worthless for a boat hull.


Is your new incarnation some sort of Jax spawn? You sound more like him
every post.

Rick

DSK November 30th 04 12:48 PM

Nav wrote:
Here we peel boats only to fix osmosis problems so, was that the case?


How would I know? It was years ago. It's possible, but it's also
possible that the gelcoat was peeled in excessnzeal.

In any event, the fiberglass of the hull is perfectly sound and shows
not the slightest trace of osmosis. You can see the surface quite well
in many of our boatyard pictures; and also see most of the stages of our
application of a new barrier coat.

Why are you so worried about it? I suggest you read
http://www.yachtsurvey.com/blisters.htm

it's certainly not the whole story, but it's a good start.

DSK


Joe November 30th 04 02:27 PM

Capt. Neal® wrote in message news:311ngtF368ot9U1@uni-

I would go whole hog and have it made from stainless steel.
After all, the premise is you won the lottery and money is
no object.

CN


Hog wild would be Nickle copper, you would never have to put on bottom paint.

Joe


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