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"Nav" wrote in message ... Capt. Neal® wrote: "Joe" wrote in message om... Capt. Neal® wrote in message ... I read the original post again and it just says 150 foot mega yacht so it probably is a mono-hull. I guess I was mixing it up with Oz's thread about the big catamaran he just bid on from the Greeks? You could still build a nice tunnel drive into the hull just forward of the rudder. That would be my plan if I were filthy rich and were building such a yacht. Actually, I think I would experiment with a tunnel either side of the keel where it fits to the hull. It would look somewhat like a couple of jet engine nacelles on the tail of a Gulfstream like this one http://www.controller.com/images/con...e/00905032.jpg but with smaller tunnels recessed into the keel. And it would be an effective add on. However on something in the 150 yacht it would be a smart move to have a twin screw system. If properly set up you can walk your stern left or right without any thruster assitance just using your wheel walk. For a bow thruster a simple 120 hp electric thruster would suffice in a tunnel. If money were truley no issue than Id go all diesel electric including both main screws and go with cort nozzles and variable pitch props able to feather flat. Everything would sail by wire off a joy stick with computer sail trimming, touch screen navigation and control thruout the vessel. But 150 foot is just so second class in today maga yacht scene. Id build in the 225 footer range. Joe 225 feet is about where steel comes into its own. Any smaller than that and it's just too heavy for spritely performance. I would go whole hog and have it made from stainless steel. After all, the premise is you won the lottery and money is no object. Stainless steel is not a cure all for corrosion problems -it's also heavy for a yacht. Aluminum seems a more common solution. Cheers What? No Titanium? Scout |
Aluminum is relatively worthless for a boat hull. All it takes to completely destroy the hull of an aluminum hulled vessel is a handful of mercury past smeared on it. It will begin to turn to dust within hours, break apart and sink. A stainless steel boat is impervious to just about anything but strong acids. CN "Nav" wrote in message ... Capt. Neal® wrote: "Joe" wrote in message om... Capt. Neal® wrote in message ... I read the original post again and it just says 150 foot mega yacht so it probably is a mono-hull. I guess I was mixing it up with Oz's thread about the big catamaran he just bid on from the Greeks? You could still build a nice tunnel drive into the hull just forward of the rudder. That would be my plan if I were filthy rich and were building such a yacht. Actually, I think I would experiment with a tunnel either side of the keel where it fits to the hull. It would look somewhat like a couple of jet engine nacelles on the tail of a Gulfstream like this one http://www.controller.com/images/con...e/00905032.jpg but with smaller tunnels recessed into the keel. And it would be an effective add on. However on something in the 150 yacht it would be a smart move to have a twin screw system. If properly set up you can walk your stern left or right without any thruster assitance just using your wheel walk. For a bow thruster a simple 120 hp electric thruster would suffice in a tunnel. If money were truley no issue than Id go all diesel electric including both main screws and go with cort nozzles and variable pitch props able to feather flat. Everything would sail by wire off a joy stick with computer sail trimming, touch screen navigation and control thruout the vessel. But 150 foot is just so second class in today maga yacht scene. Id build in the 225 footer range. Joe 225 feet is about where steel comes into its own. Any smaller than that and it's just too heavy for spritely performance. I would go whole hog and have it made from stainless steel. After all, the premise is you won the lottery and money is no object. Stainless steel is not a cure all for corrosion problems -it's also heavy for a yacht. Aluminum seems a more common solution. Cheers |
a rogue tuna?
Scout "Capt. Neal®" wrote All it takes to completely destroy the hull of an aluminum hulled vessel is a handful of mercury past smeared on it. |
Scout wrote: "Nav" wrote in message ... Capt. Neal® wrote: "Joe" wrote in message e.com... Capt. Neal® wrote in message ... I read the original post again and it just says 150 foot mega yacht so it probably is a mono-hull. I guess I was mixing it up with Oz's thread about the big catamaran he just bid on from the Greeks? You could still build a nice tunnel drive into the hull just forward of the rudder. That would be my plan if I were filthy rich and were building such a yacht. Actually, I think I would experiment with a tunnel either side of the keel where it fits to the hull. It would look somewhat like a couple of jet engine nacelles on the tail of a Gulfstream like this one http://www.controller.com/images/con...e/00905032.jpg but with smaller tunnels recessed into the keel. And it would be an effective add on. However on something in the 150 yacht it would be a smart move to have a twin screw system. If properly set up you can walk your stern left or right without any thruster assitance just using your wheel walk. For a bow thruster a simple 120 hp electric thruster would suffice in a tunnel. If money were truley no issue than Id go all diesel electric including both main screws and go with cort nozzles and variable pitch props able to feather flat. Everything would sail by wire off a joy stick with computer sail trimming, touch screen navigation and control thruout the vessel. But 150 foot is just so second class in today maga yacht scene. Id build in the 225 footer range. Joe 225 feet is about where steel comes into its own. Any smaller than that and it's just too heavy for spritely performance. I would go whole hog and have it made from stainless steel. After all, the premise is you won the lottery and money is no object. Stainless steel is not a cure all for corrosion problems -it's also heavy for a yacht. Aluminum seems a more common solution. Cheers What? No Titanium? Terrible metal for a yacht -lack of ductility. Gold alloy might be better. Cheers |
"Nav" wrote in message
... Scout wrote: "Nav" wrote in message ... Capt. Neal® wrote: "Joe" wrote in message le.com... Capt. Neal® wrote in message ... I read the original post again and it just says 150 foot mega yacht so it probably is a mono-hull. I guess I was mixing it up with Oz's thread about the big catamaran he just bid on from the Greeks? You could still build a nice tunnel drive into the hull just forward of the rudder. That would be my plan if I were filthy rich and were building such a yacht. Actually, I think I would experiment with a tunnel either side of the keel where it fits to the hull. It would look somewhat like a couple of jet engine nacelles on the tail of a Gulfstream like this one http://www.controller.com/images/con...e/00905032.jpg but with smaller tunnels recessed into the keel. And it would be an effective add on. However on something in the 150 yacht it would be a smart move to have a twin screw system. If properly set up you can walk your stern left or right without any thruster assitance just using your wheel walk. For a bow thruster a simple 120 hp electric thruster would suffice in a tunnel. If money were truley no issue than Id go all diesel electric including both main screws and go with cort nozzles and variable pitch props able to feather flat. Everything would sail by wire off a joy stick with computer sail trimming, touch screen navigation and control thruout the vessel. But 150 foot is just so second class in today maga yacht scene. Id build in the 225 footer range. Joe 225 feet is about where steel comes into its own. Any smaller than that and it's just too heavy for spritely performance. I would go whole hog and have it made from stainless steel. After all, the premise is you won the lottery and money is no object. Stainless steel is not a cure all for corrosion problems -it's also heavy for a yacht. Aluminum seems a more common solution. Cheers What? No Titanium? Terrible metal for a yacht -lack of ductility. Gold alloy might be better. Cheers pure gold is too dense? Scout |
A whole school of tuna hitting the hull might do it . . .
CN "Scout" wrote in message ... a rogue tuna? Scout "Capt. Neal®" wrote All it takes to completely destroy the hull of an aluminum hulled vessel is a handful of mercury past smeared on it. |
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=?Windows-1252?Q?Capt._Neal=AE?= wrote: A whole school of tuna hitting the hull might do it . . . CN In your case, one guppy would sink your boat. -- Jonathan Ganz (j gan z @ $ail no w.c=o=m) http://www.sailnow.com "If there's no wind, row." |
Capt. Neal® wrote: Aluminum is relatively worthless for a boat hull. All it takes to completely destroy the hull of an aluminum hulled vessel is a handful of mercury past smeared on it. It will begin to turn to dust within hours, break apart and sink. Hahahha. A handful of mercury? A stainless steel boat is impervious to just about anything but strong acids. How about salt water and time? Cheers |
Scout wrote: "Nav" wrote in message ... Scout wrote: "Nav" wrote in message ... Capt. Neal® wrote: "Joe" wrote in message gle.com... Capt. Neal® wrote in message ... I read the original post again and it just says 150 foot mega yacht so it probably is a mono-hull. I guess I was mixing it up with Oz's thread about the big catamaran he just bid on from the Greeks? You could still build a nice tunnel drive into the hull just forward of the rudder. That would be my plan if I were filthy rich and were building such a yacht. Actually, I think I would experiment with a tunnel either side of the keel where it fits to the hull. It would look somewhat like a couple of jet engine nacelles on the tail of a Gulfstream like this one http://www.controller.com/images/con...e/00905032.jpg but with smaller tunnels recessed into the keel. And it would be an effective add on. However on something in the 150 yacht it would be a smart move to have a twin screw system. If properly set up you can walk your stern left or right without any thruster assitance just using your wheel walk. For a bow thruster a simple 120 hp electric thruster would suffice in a tunnel. If money were truley no issue than Id go all diesel electric including both main screws and go with cort nozzles and variable pitch props able to feather flat. Everything would sail by wire off a joy stick with computer sail trimming, touch screen navigation and control thruout the vessel. But 150 foot is just so second class in today maga yacht scene. Id build in the 225 footer range. Joe 225 feet is about where steel comes into its own. Any smaller than that and it's just too heavy for spritely performance. I would go whole hog and have it made from stainless steel. After all, the premise is you won the lottery and money is no object. Stainless steel is not a cure all for corrosion problems -it's also heavy for a yacht. Aluminum seems a more common solution. Cheers What? No Titanium? Terrible metal for a yacht -lack of ductility. Gold alloy might be better. Cheers pure gold is too dense? Scout Too soft. Cheers |
I said mercury paste. Mercury at room temp is a liquid and
difficult to hold in the palm of one's hand while mercury paste is similar to paste wax and can be held and smeared on by hand. "Nav" wrote in message ... Capt. Neal® wrote: Aluminum is relatively worthless for a boat hull. All it takes to completely destroy the hull of an aluminum hulled vessel is a handful of mercury past smeared on it. It will begin to turn to dust within hours, break apart and sink. Hahahha. A handful of mercury? A stainless steel boat is impervious to just about anything but strong acids. How about salt water and time? Cheers |
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