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Vito December 2nd 04 02:49 PM

"Thom Stewart" wrote

.... Palestine was stated as the homeland of the Jews.....


Cite?

..... Since Palestine was a protectorate, ....the British forced the

limits
on their immigration after WW2.


Then you agree with me on that important point?

Point 2; The Jews did not INVADE as you say.


That's a matter of semantics. If a gang pushed their way into your house
uninvited and set up camp in your yard you might call it an invasion even
though they didn't shoot anybody.

They settled on land set aside for them by the United Nations.


Cite UN document(s)?

It was the Arab nations that first used Armed Force against the Jews.

They, as a group swore to drive
every Jew into the sea. They were outsmarted and out-fought by the new

nation. Time after time.

No arguement there.



Vito December 2nd 04 03:02 PM

"Dave" wrote
On Wed, 1 Dec 2004 09:31:33 -0500, "Vito" said:

"Comfortable" is relative. Many Euros stayed home rather than come to
America. These places seemed better than the alternative until Nazis

and
Commies came along.

Large numbers were leaving Eastern Europe long before anybody ever

heard of
Hitler. My wife still harbors a great distrust of Poland, Russia and

the
Ukraine based on what she heard from her parents, aunts and uncles, all

of
whom left before the 30s.


To go to Palistine? I thot most, just like the Irish and other non-Jewish
Euros looking for a better life, came here.


Do you have a comprehension problem, or are you deliberately misreading?

The
reason we include a quote is to indicate what we're replying to. You said
many Euros stayed home instead of coming to America because these places
seemed a better place until the Nazis and the Commies came along. I

replied
that many thought Eastern Europe was not a better place and left for

America
long before the Nazis and the Commies came along. Nothing about Palestine

in
that.


My apalogies. The theme of the thread has been Jewish migration to
Palisitine. There were indeed many immigrants to the USA before Hitler ...
Meyer Lanski, the Cohen gang ...(c:



Martin Baxter December 2nd 04 05:47 PM

Overproof wrote:

Wait till his Beagles start
baying.... I love that sound but the other neighbour won't!


All you have to do is step outside your front door and do your wolf imitation,
even if his dogs are indoors it'll set 'em off. I can set my beagle to howling from
inside my neighbors house even when she's inside mine (the dog that is), good ears on those little buggers!

Cheers
Marty


Vito December 2nd 04 07:31 PM

"Dave" wrote in message
...
On Thu, 2 Dec 2004 10:02:26 -0500, "Vito" said:

There were indeed many immigrants to the USA before Hitler ...
Meyer Lanski, the Cohen gang ...(c:


Just remember, Vito, that those guys that used to dress up in sheets don't
like people whose last names end in vowels, either.

Sure they do. There's Bubba and Billi and dorki and easi and ....

Actually, I considered converting at one time, til I read about an Israeli
couple who couldn't marry. Seems she'd previously married a man who dumped
her without children, moved to America and got killed by a bus. Kosher law
required her to get pregnant by his brother who lived in Russia, or to hit
him with a shoe so many times while chanting a particular phrase, but he
couldn't get out of Kruchev's USSR and she wasn't about to go there. And I
thot Christians had some odd ideas (c:.



Overproof December 2nd 04 07:50 PM

Oh Yeah.... well aware of that... I've owned several Beagles.... great
dogs! I ran a pack of 6 once when member of the Bayside Beagle Club.

CM

"Martin Baxter" wrote in message
...
Overproof wrote:

Wait till his Beagles start
baying.... I love that sound but the other neighbour won't!


All you have to do is step outside your front door and do your wolf
imitation,
even if his dogs are indoors it'll set 'em off. I can set my beagle to
howling from
inside my neighbors house even when she's inside mine (the dog that is),
good ears on those little buggers!

Cheers
Marty




Nav December 2nd 04 08:43 PM

Duh. I was alluding to a traditional US mafia form of terrorism -geddit?

Cheers

Martin Baxter wrote:
Nav wrote:





Semtex? Is that like concrete?



Try this, it should aleviate your ignorance.

http://www.survivalguide.com/terrori...explosives.htm

Cheers
Marty



Nav December 2nd 04 08:46 PM



Overproof wrote:

Oh Yeah.... well aware of that... I've owned several Beagles.... great
dogs! I drank a 6 pack once when member of the gay Beagle Club.

CM


I knew it!

Cheers


Thom Stewart December 2nd 04 08:58 PM

Vito,

The year 1947, the General Assembly of the United Nations, when the UN
was still located at Lake Success, N.Y. , Voted to create the country of
Israel. It was Passed. The very next day, the Jews living in this area
was attacked by a coalition of Arab nations.

This was made necessary by Britain giving up its role as Protectorate
and management of the detention camps of illegal Jewish immigrants.

These illegals were created by the release of Hitler's death camps and
Jew that had been in hiding. Their homes and wealth had been stolen by
the Nazis'.

A modern day band of "Wandering Jews" were created but there was no
Wilderness for them to Wander in. The Jews in Palestine were the only
people willing to except them. By the way, those Jews were citizens of
Palistine that wanted to take them. Legal citizens of Palestine that
lived in peace with many Arabs and at odds with many other Arabs. They
were a tough bred of Jew. Not the meek Jew of Europe that was easily
shipped of to the death camps. They had learned to fight for their right
to exist. Legal or illegal.

That my Friend Vito, is history from a WopScott who lived it.

Ole Thom (Bertossi was my mother's name)


Jonathan Ganz December 2nd 04 09:27 PM

In article ,
Thom Stewart wrote:
Vito,

The year 1947, the General Assembly of the United Nations, when the UN
was still located at Lake Success, N.Y. , Voted to create the country of
Israel. It was Passed. The very next day, the Jews living in this area
was attacked by a coalition of Arab nations.


They also voted to create the state of Palestine.

This is the basis for the two state solution, now coming full circle.

What you have to keep in mind is that both sides are victims. They are
more alike than different. Islam, the newer of the two religions,
advocates tolerance toward Jews. In many ways, it has been hijacked by
"teachers" much in the same way that Christian and Jewish teachers
have provided false interpretations of their respective holy
documents.

--
Jonathan Ganz (j gan z @ $ail no w.c=o=m)
http://www.sailnow.com
"If there's no wind, row."


Overproof December 2nd 04 10:40 PM

No Nav... nobody sane would make that illogical leap.... I'm certain you are
still chucklin' to yourself about how witty you think you are though!!

CM

"Nav" wrote in message
...
Duh. I was alluding to a traditional US mafia form of terrorism -geddit?

Cheers

Martin Baxter wrote:
Nav wrote:





Semtex? Is that like concrete?



Try this, it should aleviate your ignorance.

http://www.survivalguide.com/terrori...explosives.htm

Cheers
Marty





Overproof December 2nd 04 10:42 PM

Whattsa matter Navvie??.... still smartin'.... try a hemorrhoid cushion!

Bwahahahahahahahaaa!!

CM

"Nav" wrote in message
...


Overproof wrote:

Oh Yeah.... well aware of that... I've owned several Beagles.... great
dogs! I drank a 6 pack once when member of the gay Beagle Club.

CM


I knew it!

Cheers




Peter Wiley December 3rd 04 12:38 AM

In article , Donal
wrote:

"Peter Wiley" wrote in message
. ..
In article , Donal
wrote:

Nothing worth replying to. It's my birthday,


Happy Birthday!

I'm off sailing with some of my women
friends.


I didn't know that there were Bobsprits in Australia.


Plenty in Sydney & up the Gold Coast, just ask Oz.

PDW

katysails December 3rd 04 02:42 AM

Naw...if you want beagles to bay all you have to do is go outside an pretend
you're a fire siren. People in back of us breed afghans and
PBGV's...everytime a siren goes off down on the bottom road they start
sounding off.
"Martin Baxter" wrote in message
...
Overproof wrote:

Wait till his Beagles start
baying.... I love that sound but the other neighbour won't!


All you have to do is step outside your front door and do your wolf
imitation,
even if his dogs are indoors it'll set 'em off. I can set my beagle to
howling from
inside my neighbors house even when she's inside mine (the dog that is),
good ears on those little buggers!

Cheers
Marty




Thom Stewart December 3rd 04 03:10 AM

Scout,

A question? If we grabbed the land from the American Indians, should
the Indians go back to Africa?

If you believe all humanity came from ONE family or tribe, then we all
should go back to where Noah started all over again??

Ole Thom
P/S I'd like to get my hands on that ******* that let that first Crab
Grass get out of Africa or Turkey if we go with Noah.

I'm afraid I have more faith in the CREATOR than to believe he peopled
this world with a single seed.


DSK December 3rd 04 12:33 PM

katysails wrote:
..... The guy came up to me and said
how brave I was to be able to handle bulls like that. I looked at him and
said "They're not bulls". He insisted I was wrong. I finally had to get in
the pen and life a tail to show him what wasn't there. He blushed a very
nice shade of red and went back to his house...didn't see him the rest of
that winter.


That was no artist, that was Horvath!

DSK


Martin Baxter December 3rd 04 01:34 PM

Nav wrote:

Duh. I was alluding to a traditional US mafia form of terrorism -geddit?


Ah, I should have seen it, but I was at work, and therefore asleep.

Cheers
Marty


Vito December 3rd 04 02:31 PM

"Thom Stewart" wrote
Vito,

The year 1947, the General Assembly of the United Nations, when the UN
was still located at Lake Success, N.Y. , Voted to create the country of
Israel. It was Passed. The very next day, the Jews living in this area
was attacked by a coalition of Arab nations.

This was made necessary by Britain giving up its role as Protectorate
and management of the detention camps of illegal Jewish immigrants.

These illegals were created by the release of Hitler's death camps and
Jew that had been in hiding. Their homes and wealth had been stolen by
the Nazis'.

A modern day band of "Wandering Jews" were created but there was no
Wilderness for them to Wander in. The Jews in Palestine were the only
people willing to except them. By the way, those Jews were citizens of
Palistine that wanted to take them. Legal citizens of Palestine that
lived in peace with many Arabs and at odds with many other Arabs. They
were a tough bred of Jew. Not the meek Jew of Europe that was easily
shipped of to the death camps. They had learned to fight for their right
to exist. Legal or illegal.

That my Friend Vito, is history from a WopScott who lived it.

Ole Thom (Bertossi was my mother's name)


Thank you. I think that is what I have been saying. Jews had been rounded
up from all over Europe, especially eastern Europe and France, and put into
labor/death camps and their homes and businesses had been sold to locals. As
these camps were liberated survivors first thought to go home but found no
homes to go to, their property now owned by locals - the "Wandering Jews"
you speak of. Only thing I'd add is that the meek among the Euro-Jews had
largely been weeded out - these were hard core survivors who joined their
brethern.



Overproof December 3rd 04 02:40 PM


"Thom Stewart" wrote in message
I'm afraid I have more faith in the CREATOR than to believe he peopled
this world with a single seed.


Actually... it was several simians I believe.


CM



Seahag December 3rd 04 03:37 PM


"katysails" wrote:
Naw...if you want beagles to bay all you have to do is go outside an
pretend you're a fire siren. People in back of us breed afghans and
PBGV's...everytime a siren goes off down on the bottom road they start
sounding off.


I've not heard Scupper howl yet, but he loves fireworks. The Navy Academy
had fireworks the other night, as soon as we heard the first couple Scupper
had to get outside to see them. It's funny, he figured out the colored
lights in the sky his second July 4th, but he checks out the other people on
boats and the echos off buildings around us!

Seahag



Martin Baxter December 3rd 04 03:53 PM

Overproof wrote:

Exxxxxxxcellent..... how do these people live beyond 10 years without the
slightest clue of where eggs come from, where milk comes from



Chocolate milk comes from brown cows!

Cheers
Marty


Martin Baxter December 3rd 04 03:56 PM

Dave wrote:
t--they never know when the original owners or their
heirs might appear and reclaim their property.



Probably about the time that they pry the last of their assets out of Swiss hands.

Cheers
Marty


Jonathan Ganz December 3rd 04 06:33 PM

Marty... everyone knows that!

--
"j" ganz @@
www.sailnow.com

"Martin Baxter" wrote in message
...
Overproof wrote:

Exxxxxxxcellent..... how do these people live beyond 10 years without
the slightest clue of where eggs come from, where milk comes from



Chocolate milk comes from brown cows!

Cheers
Marty




Overproof December 3rd 04 09:20 PM


"Martin Baxter" wrote in message
...
Overproof wrote:

Exxxxxxxcellent..... how do these people live beyond 10 years without
the slightest clue of where eggs come from, where milk comes from



Chocolate milk comes from brown cows!


....and if you run the cows hard you'll get 'Strawberry Milk'!!

CM



katysails December 3rd 04 10:29 PM

Nah...I would have recognized him...

"DSK" wrote in message
. ..
katysails wrote:
..... The guy came up to me and said
how brave I was to be able to handle bulls like that. I looked at him
and said "They're not bulls". He insisted I was wrong. I finally had to
get in the pen and life a tail to show him what wasn't there. He blushed
a very nice shade of red and went back to his house...didn't see him the
rest of that winter.


That was no artist, that was Horvath!

DSK




katysails December 3rd 04 10:34 PM

Run em even harder and you'll get cheese....

"Overproof" wrote in message
news:WM4sd.227522$df2.133490@edtnps89...

"Martin Baxter" wrote in message
...
Overproof wrote:

Exxxxxxxcellent..... how do these people live beyond 10 years without
the slightest clue of where eggs come from, where milk comes from



Chocolate milk comes from brown cows!


...and if you run the cows hard you'll get 'Strawberry Milk'!!

CM




katysails December 3rd 04 10:35 PM

Means he's not gun shy...

"Seahag" wrote in message
...

"katysails" wrote:
Naw...if you want beagles to bay all you have to do is go outside an
pretend you're a fire siren. People in back of us breed afghans and
PBGV's...everytime a siren goes off down on the bottom road they start
sounding off.


I've not heard Scupper howl yet, but he loves fireworks. The Navy Academy
had fireworks the other night, as soon as we heard the first couple
Scupper had to get outside to see them. It's funny, he figured out the
colored lights in the sky his second July 4th, but he checks out the other
people on boats and the echos off buildings around us!

Seahag





Capt. Neal® December 4th 04 12:18 AM

Massage the heck out of their udders and you'll get butter.

CN


"katysails" wrote in message ...
Run em even harder and you'll get cheese....

"Overproof" wrote in message
news:WM4sd.227522$df2.133490@edtnps89...

"Martin Baxter" wrote in message
...
Overproof wrote:

Exxxxxxxcellent..... how do these people live beyond 10 years without
the slightest clue of where eggs come from, where milk comes from


Chocolate milk comes from brown cows!


...and if you run the cows hard you'll get 'Strawberry Milk'!!

CM




Overproof December 4th 04 12:20 AM

Oh... that's so bad ...in so many ways! :-)

CM

"Seahag" wrote in message
...
That's poutine it mildly!

Seahag

"katysails" wrote in message
...
Run em even harder and you'll get cheese....

"Overproof" wrote in message
news:WM4sd.227522$df2.133490@edtnps89...

"Martin Baxter" wrote in message
...
Overproof wrote:

Exxxxxxxcellent..... how do these people live beyond 10 years
without the slightest clue of where eggs come from, where milk comes
from


Chocolate milk comes from brown cows!

...and if you run the cows hard you'll get 'Strawberry Milk'!!

CM








katysails December 4th 04 02:08 AM

Well, that's better than eating the quarry...

"Seahag" wrote in message
...
I've taken him on the roof top by Muller's for the Blue Angels and
fireworks right from the start. I've seen a lot of dogs panic from noise
so I figured if we showed him it was "fun" he wouldn't be scared.

He'll make a good huntin' dawg someday...he has a half decent point
already. Problem is he keeps kissing everything he gets near!

Seahag

"katysails" wrote:
Means he's not gun shy...

"Seahag" wrote in message
...

"katysails" wrote:
Naw...if you want beagles to bay all you have to do is go outside an
pretend you're a fire siren. People in back of us breed afghans and
PBGV's...everytime a siren goes off down on the bottom road they start
sounding off.

I've not heard Scupper howl yet, but he loves fireworks. The Navy
Academy had fireworks the other night, as soon as we heard the first
couple Scupper had to get outside to see them. It's funny, he figured
out the colored lights in the sky his second July 4th, but he checks out
the other people on boats and the echos off buildings around us!

Seahag









katysails December 4th 04 02:09 AM

Make em stand out in a cold shed and get ice cream...

"Capt. Neal®" wrote in message
...
Massage the heck out of their udders and you'll get butter.

CN


"katysails" wrote in message
...
Run em even harder and you'll get cheese....

"Overproof" wrote in message
news:WM4sd.227522$df2.133490@edtnps89...

"Martin Baxter" wrote in message
...
Overproof wrote:

Exxxxxxxcellent..... how do these people live beyond 10 years
without
the slightest clue of where eggs come from, where milk comes from


Chocolate milk comes from brown cows!

...and if you run the cows hard you'll get 'Strawberry Milk'!!

CM






Capt. Neal® December 4th 04 02:30 AM

Make them live in a cottage and get cottage cheese.


"katysails" wrote in message ...
Make em stand out in a cold shed and get ice cream...

"Capt. Neal®" wrote in message
...
Massage the heck out of their udders and you'll get butter.

CN


"katysails" wrote in message
...
Run em even harder and you'll get cheese....

"Overproof" wrote in message
news:WM4sd.227522$df2.133490@edtnps89...

"Martin Baxter" wrote in message
...
Overproof wrote:

Exxxxxxxcellent..... how do these people live beyond 10 years
without
the slightest clue of where eggs come from, where milk comes from


Chocolate milk comes from brown cows!

...and if you run the cows hard you'll get 'Strawberry Milk'!!

CM







katysails December 4th 04 02:33 AM

bad...

"Capt. Neal®" wrote in message
...
Make them live in a cottage and get cottage cheese.


"katysails" wrote in message
...
Make em stand out in a cold shed and get ice cream...

"Capt. Neal®" wrote in message
...
Massage the heck out of their udders and you'll get butter.

CN


"katysails" wrote in message
...
Run em even harder and you'll get cheese....

"Overproof" wrote in message
news:WM4sd.227522$df2.133490@edtnps89...

"Martin Baxter" wrote in message
...
Overproof wrote:

Exxxxxxxcellent..... how do these people live beyond 10 years
without
the slightest clue of where eggs come from, where milk comes from


Chocolate milk comes from brown cows!

...and if you run the cows hard you'll get 'Strawberry Milk'!!

CM









Horvath December 4th 04 06:16 AM

On Fri, 03 Dec 2004 07:33:34 -0500, DSK wrote
this crap:

katysails wrote:
..... The guy came up to me and said
how brave I was to be able to handle bulls like that. I looked at him and
said "They're not bulls". He insisted I was wrong. I finally had to get in
the pen and life a tail to show him what wasn't there. He blushed a very
nice shade of red and went back to his house...didn't see him the rest of
that winter.


That was no artist, that was Horvath!



I know the difference between bull and steer.





Pathetic Earthlings! No one can save you now!

Horvath December 4th 04 06:25 AM

On Fri, 03 Dec 2004 22:34:35 GMT, "katysails"
wrote this crap:

Run em even harder and you'll get cheese....



What do you do to get ice cream?





Pathetic Earthlings! No one can save you now!

Horvath December 4th 04 06:27 AM

On Fri, 3 Dec 2004 19:18:42 -0500, Capt. Neal®
wrote this crap:

Massage the heck out of their udders and you'll get butter.



How do you get yogurt?




Pathetic Earthlings! No one can save you now!

Jonathan Ganz December 4th 04 07:56 AM

Yeah, you always go for the bull.

--
"j" ganz @@
www.sailnow.com

"Horvath" wrote in message
...
On Fri, 03 Dec 2004 07:33:34 -0500, DSK wrote
this crap:

katysails wrote:
..... The guy came up to me and said
how brave I was to be able to handle bulls like that. I looked at him
and
said "They're not bulls". He insisted I was wrong. I finally had to
get in
the pen and life a tail to show him what wasn't there. He blushed a
very
nice shade of red and went back to his house...didn't see him the rest
of
that winter.


That was no artist, that was Horvath!



I know the difference between bull and steer.





Pathetic Earthlings! No one can save you now!




Jonathan Ganz December 4th 04 07:56 AM

Not what you do.

--
"j" ganz @@
www.sailnow.com

"Horvath" wrote in message
...
On Fri, 03 Dec 2004 22:34:35 GMT, "katysails"
wrote this crap:

Run em even harder and you'll get cheese....



What do you do to get ice cream?





Pathetic Earthlings! No one can save you now!




Thom Stewart December 4th 04 08:06 AM

Yeah and 1% milk comes from skinny cow, and lean beef comes from cows
with to short legs on the same side, short ribs come from dwarf cows,
ground beef from cows with no legs AND i'm going to bed.

Good Nite
Ole Thom


Scott Vernon December 4th 04 09:45 AM


"Seahag" wrote

He'll make a good huntin' dawg someday...


Yeah, if you're hunting road cones.

Scotty



katysails December 4th 04 12:35 PM

from goats or yals...

"Horvath" wrote in message
...
On Fri, 3 Dec 2004 19:18:42 -0500, Capt. Neal®
wrote this crap:

Massage the heck out of their udders and you'll get butter.



How do you get yogurt?




Pathetic Earthlings! No one can save you now!





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