"Maxprop" wrote in message
link.net...


Interesting reading. I skimmed two of them, but I shall avail myself of
them more thoroughly when time permits.


Jeff, you look like a right plonker when you try to sound "English".





However I think the relationship, as stated in these treatises, between
SAT
scores and IQ is a theoretical one at best, and a casual one at worst. As
Dave has pointed out several times, there are myriad other factors that
can
affect success or failure on such exams. Given a small, well-defined
population of similarly raised, similarly-educated individuals, I think
that
the SAT scores may correlate well with IQ. But the demographics of the
total population of students taking such exams is not so narrow, rather
widely varied throughout the country and throughout the socio-economic
spectra. Reality seldom emulates theory where humans are concerned.

Max, the states with the lower IQ's voted for Bush. You, Dave, Loco and Joe
all prove that you are typical Bush supporters.


How did your state vote?


Regards


Donal
--

Opposing inhumanity is "substantially left of center?"


Maxprop wrote:
Nope. Accusations of inhumanity, bogus or otherwise, are liberal tools of
the trade, however.

And you are the final judge of what's bogus, Mr "I believe every million
dollar smear campaign Karl Rove can invent"? Gee, that sounds fair.




I would somewhat agree, bu you must have missed out on the welfare
reform acts of the 1990s. And you can't seem to point to a quote where I
am in favor of increasing welfare. Once again you attempt to proclaim
some great ideological principle and stub your toe on your own ignorance.


The discussion was about Reagan. I don't recall the exact statement, but I
was surprise to see you, a self-proclaimed conservative, bashing RR for his
stance on welfare.

Wrong again. I was bashing Reagan's administration for the easily
foreseeable results of it's actions on welfare. Of course, in your
world, action doesn't count for much. You believe in faith without wors,
don't you?



How did W's tax cuts increase the burden on "those further down the ladder?"
I'm aware of no one's marginal tax rates having increased by virtue of this
act. Liberal lies.

I'm relieved to know that the tremendously increased defict of W's
administration is all "liberal lies."




... What bothers me are marginal tax rates that
penalize one for accumulating wealth.

If that were true, then already rich CEOs wouldn't be asking for multi
million dollar bonusses (bonii?). Another of your right-wing fairy tale
evaporates when examined in reality... but you're not interested, are you?


... I'm in favor of a flat-rate tax, if
you hadn't gleaned that by now.

I have also "gleaned" that no amount of fact will deter you from your
proclaiming your prejudices & fantasies.

Social Security, itself, is a stupid scheme. It operates on the premise
that people should not be encouraged to fend for themselves.

Baloney.

... THAT is a
basic tenet of socialism.

More baloney.

... The reality is that most people probably won't
have a pot to **** in at retirement if left to their own devices.

Possibly so, but unlike you, I do not think that the gov't should be
meddling other than to prevent fraud by "investment professionals."

... If your money grows at a faster rate than the pathetic returns
from SS

Here's a clue, Maxxie- there is no "return" from Social Security. It is
*not* an investment plan and never was.



... You seem terminally spiteful to anyone
who benefits from working for the government. Jealousy? Antipathy toward
the wealthy? What is your problem?

????

Where did you dream this up Maxxie? Your hormone pills must not be
working, you seem to be a bit over revved.


... Here's a real wake-up call for ya,
Cleo: lots of people get rich working for the gummint. And they're doing
it with revenues from our tax monies.

Yep. I've said many times that the welfare program chiefly benefits
those who work for the welfare dept. You must have missed that in your
eager hunting for signs that I am a darn libby-rull.



.... Your reliance on SS in its current
iteration is unwise.

Who ever said that *I* was relying on Social Security? Not that it's any
of your business.



What a ****ing Boy Scout. Get a job in the real world, Cleo.

What a great example of how calm & rational you are, also how you never
call anybody names.

Well, I'm done here. You don't seem to enjoy your fascist whacko fantasy
land, so I don't know why you stay rooted in it. You seem determined to
remain hopeless. Bye bye, Maxxie.

DSK

If one of my kids decided to become a teacher I would be very dissappointed.


Why is that? It's a good profession and the pay is okay. I have a friend who's
making about 55K and has the summers off, or work summers and make 70K. You can
do very well at some schools and if you're good at it you can really help some
kids. I guess you can make more money other ways but you won't have the
emotional rewards.
I have great respect for teachers, firemen, policemen, nurses and EMTs and so
on.

RB

Donal wrote:
"Maxprop" wrote in message
link.net...


Interesting reading. I skimmed two of them, but I shall avail myself of
them more thoroughly when time permits.



Jeff, you look like a right plonker when you try to sound "English".


Are you claiming Maxprop and I are the same person???

"Donal" wrote in message

Jeff, you look like a right plonker when you try to sound "English".

Proper English is not the sole province of the Limeys, regardless of what
the bloody blokes think. :-)

Max

"Dave" wrote in message

On Mon, 15 Nov 2004 00:02:28 -0000, "Donal" said:

Max, the states with the lower IQ's voted for Bush. You, Dave, Loco and
Joe
all prove that you are typical Bush supporters.

Seems to me that what we've proved is that (i) your numbers were bogus in
the first place, and (ii) even if they hadn't been bogus you were not
drawing the appropriate inferences from them.

Don't bother, Dave. This bunch of whiners is the worst I've seen anywhere
since the election. They just can't come to grips with the fact that their
throw-away candidate lost and W won. It drives them nuts. They spend their
increasingly idle time attempting to make the election appear less than it
was--a decisive victory. And they will continue to do so for the next four
years. They will persist in attempting to denigrate the winner and those
who voted for him, and canonize the loser and those who voted for him. It's
truly pathetic, considering that their sniveling will absolutely change
nothing. But it's their nature to be whiners, malcontents, ugly. I'd feel
pity for them were it not for the fact that they present such an obnoxious
demeanor in their childish tantrums.

You, I, and others have responded to their juvenile spats with reason,
logic, and rationality, to no avail. They are not to be consoled, nor
placated.

Let them whine. They look ridiculously foolish doing so. It's not our
fault that they hoist themselves by their own petard.

Max

"Bobsprit" wrote in message

If one of my kids decided to become a teacher I would be very
dissappointed.


Why is that? It's a good profession and the pay is okay. I have a friend
who's
making about 55K and has the summers off, or work summers and make 70K.
You can
do very well at some schools and if you're good at it you can really help
some
kids. I guess you can make more money other ways but you won't have the
emotional rewards.
I have great respect for teachers, firemen, policemen, nurses and EMTs and
so
on.

Well said, Bubbles. Donal, for some reason, believes teachers are not
worthy contributors to society. Or perhaps he believes they don't earn
enough to be respectable members of the population. He's wrong on either
count.

Max

Seems to me that you're doing a great whining job yourself. I think you win
on whining.

--
"j" ganz @@
www.sailnow.com

"Maxprop" wrote in message
k.net...

"Dave" wrote in message

On Mon, 15 Nov 2004 00:02:28 -0000, "Donal" said:

Max, the states with the lower IQ's voted for Bush. You, Dave, Loco and
Joe
all prove that you are typical Bush supporters.

Seems to me that what we've proved is that (i) your numbers were bogus in
the first place, and (ii) even if they hadn't been bogus you were not
drawing the appropriate inferences from them.

Don't bother, Dave. This bunch of whiners is the worst I've seen anywhere
since the election. They just can't come to grips with the fact that
their
throw-away candidate lost and W won. It drives them nuts. They spend
their
increasingly idle time attempting to make the election appear less than it
was--a decisive victory. And they will continue to do so for the next
four
years. They will persist in attempting to denigrate the winner and those
who voted for him, and canonize the loser and those who voted for him.
It's
truly pathetic, considering that their sniveling will absolutely change
nothing. But it's their nature to be whiners, malcontents, ugly. I'd
feel
pity for them were it not for the fact that they present such an obnoxious
demeanor in their childish tantrums.

You, I, and others have responded to their juvenile spats with reason,
logic, and rationality, to no avail. They are not to be consoled, nor
placated.

Let them whine. They look ridiculously foolish doing so. It's not our
fault that they hoist themselves by their own petard.

Max

"Bobsprit" wrote
Why is that? It's a good profession and the pay is okay. I have a friend
who's
making about 55K and has the summers off, or work summers and make 70K.
You can
do very well at some schools and if you're good at it you can really help
some
kids. I guess you can make more money other ways but you won't have the
emotional rewards.

Friend of mine taught history in a New England High School. Told the admin's
he had to have a beard to do summer research then about May he'd let it be
known he planned to tour by motorcycle all summer and was looking for a
suitable passenger over 18. Did this for at least 10 years then took up
sailing. Not a bad life. New cutie every summer .....

"Maxprop" wrote
"Donal" wrote in message

Jeff, you look like a right plonker when you try to sound "English".

Proper English is not the sole province of the Limeys, regardless of what
the bloody blokes think. :-)

The only people who seem to know they have an accent are US Southerners.
Everybody else believes they speak "the Queen's english" even if the Queen
happens to be the Queen of some obscure tribe. I have a verbal So
California accent and speak it with Italian body language. That's why I
cannot drown (c: