To the citizens of the United States of America
 

To the citizens of the United States of America,

In the light of your failure to elect a President of the USA and thus to
govern yourselves, we hereby give notice of the revocation of your
independence, effective today. Her Sovereign Majesty Queen Elizabeth II will
resume monarchial duties over all states, commonwealths and other
territories. Except Utah, which she does not fancy. Your new prime minister
(The Right Honourable Tony Blair, MP for the 97.85% of you who have until
now been unaware that there is a world outside your borders) will appoint a
minister for America without the need for further elections. Congress and
the Senate will be disbanded. A questionnaire will be circulated next year
to determine whether any of you noticed. To aid in the transition to a
British Crown Dependency, the following rules are introduced with immediate
effect:

1. You should look up "revocation" in the Oxford English Dictionary. Then
look up "aluminium". Check the pronunciation guide. You will be amazed at
just how wrongly you have been pronouncing it. The letter 'U' will be
reinstated in words such as 'favour' and 'neighbour', skipping the letter
'U' is nothing more than laziness on your part. Likewise, you will learn to
spell 'doughnut' without skipping half the letters. You will end your love
affair with the letter 'Z' (pronounced 'zed' not 'zee') and the suffix "ize"
will be replaced by the suffix "ise". You will learn that the suffix 'burgh
is pronounced 'burra' e.g. Edinburgh. You are welcome to respell Pittsburgh
as 'Pittsberg' if you can't cope with correct pronunciation. Generally, you
should raise your vocabulary to acceptable levels. Look up "vocabulary".
Using the same twenty seven words interspersed with filler noises such as
"like" and "you know" is an unacceptable and inefficient form of
communication. Look up "interspersed". There will be no more 'bleeps' in the
Jerry Springer show. If you're not old enough to cope with bad language then
you shouldn't have chat shows. When you learn to develop your vocabulary
then you won't have to use bad language as often.

2. There is no such thing as "US English". We will let Microsoft know on
your behalf. The Microsoft spell-checker will be adjusted to take account of
the reinstated letter 'u' and the elimination of "-ize".

3. You should learn to distinguish the English and Australian accents. It
really isn't that hard. English accents are not limited to Cockney,
upper-class twit or Mancunian (Daphne in Frasier). You will also have to
learn how to understand regional accents - Scottish dramas such as "Taggart"
will no longer be broadcast with subtitles. While we're talking about
regions, you must learn that there is no such place as Devonshire in
England. The name of the county is "Devon". If you persist in calling it
Devonshire, all American States will become "shires" e.g. Texasshire,
Floridashire, Louisianashire.

4. Hollywood will be required occasionally to cast English actors as the
good guys. Hollywood will be required to cast English actors to play English
characters. British sit-coms such as "Men Behaving Badly" or "Red Dwarf"
will not be re-cast and watered down for a wishy-washy American audience who
can't cope with the humour of occasional political incorrectness.

5. You should relearn your original national anthem, "God Save The Queen",
but only after fully carrying out task 1. We would not want you to get
confused and give up half way through.

6. You should stop playing American "football". There is only one kind of
football. What you refer to as American "football" is not a very good game.
The 2.15% of you who are aware that there is a world outside your borders
may have noticed that no one else plays "American" football. You will no
longer be allowed to play it, and should instead play proper football.
Initially, it would be best if you played with the girls. It is a difficult
game. Those of you brave enough will, in time, be allowed to play rugby
(which is similar to American "football", but does not involve stopping for
a rest every twenty seconds or wearing full kevlar body armour like
nancies). We are hoping to get together at least a US rugby sevens side by
2005. You should stop playing baseball. It is not reasonable to host an
event called the 'World Series' for a game which is not played outside of
America. Since only 2.15% of you are aware that there is a world beyond your
borders, your error is understandable. Instead of baseball, you will be
allowed to play a girls' game called "rounders" which is baseball without
fancy team strip, oversized gloves, collector cards or hotdogs.

7. You should declare war on Quebec and France, using nuclear weapons if
they give you any merde. The 97.85% of you who were not aware that there is
a world outside your borders should count yourselves lucky. The Russians
have never been the bad guys. "Merde" is French for "5hit".
You will no longer be allowed to own or carry guns. You will no longer be
allowed to own or carry anything more dangerous in public than a vegetable
peeler. Because we don't believe you are sensible enough to handle
potentially dangerous items, you will require a permit if you wish to carry
a vegetable peeler in public.

8. July 4th is no longer a public holiday. November 2th will be a new
national holiday, but only in England. It will be called "Indecisive Day".

9. All American cars are hereby banned. They are crap and it is for your own
good. When we show you German cars, you will understand what we mean. All
road intersections will be replaced with roundabouts. You will start driving
on the left with immediate effect. At the same time, you will go metric with
immediate effect and without the benefit of conversion tables. Roundabouts
and metrication will help you understand the British sense of humour.

10. You will learn to make real chips. Those things you call French fries
are not real chips. Fries aren't even French, they are Belgian though 97.85%
of you (including the guy who discovered fries while in Europe) are not
aware of a country called Belgium. Those things you insist on calling potato
chips are properly called "crisps". Real chips are thick cut and fried in
animal fat. The traditional accompaniment to chips is beer which should be
served warm and flat. Waitresses will be trained to be more aggressive with
customers.

11. As a sign of penance 5 grams of sea salt per cup will be added to all
tea made within the Commonwealth of Massachusetts, this quantity to be
doubled for tea made within the city of Boston itself.

12. The cold tasteless stuff you insist on calling beer is not actually beer
at all, it is lager. From November 1st only proper British Bitter will be
referred to as "beer", and European brews of known and accepted provenance
will be referred to as "Lager". The substances formerly known as "American
Beer" will henceforth be referred to as "Near-Frozen Knat's Urine", with the
exception of the product of the American Budweiser company whose product
will be referred to as "Weak Near-Frozen Knat's Urine". This will allow true
Budweiser (as manufactured for the last 1000 years in Pilsen, Czech
Republic) to be sold without risk of confusion.

13. From December 1st the UK will harmonise petrol (or "Gasoline" as you
will be permitted to keep calling it until April 1st 2005) prices with the
former USA. The UK will harmonise its prices to those of the former USA and
the Former USA will, in return, adopt UK petrol prices (roughly $6/US
gallon - get used to it).

14. You will learn to resolve personal issues without using guns, lawyers or
therapists. The fact that you need so many lawyers and therapists shows that
you're not adult enough to be independent. Guns should only be handled by
adults. If you're not adult enough to sort things out without suing someone
or speaking to a therapist then you're not grown up enough to handle a gun.

15. Please tell us who killed JFK. It's been driving us crazy.

Tax collectors from Her Majesty's Government will be with you shortly to
ensure the acquisition of all revenues due (backdated to 1776).

Thank you for your cooperation and have a nice day!!!!!!!!!

EXCELLENT!!!!

...as a member of the Commonwealth that holds seniority...
I hereby request permission to allow Canada to take a plank to the newest
member's collective arse!

Only as a manner of Welcome of course! :-D

CM



"BigMac" wrote in message
...
To the citizens of the United States of America,

In the light of your failure to elect a President of the USA and thus to
govern yourselves, we hereby give notice of the revocation of your
independence, effective today. Her Sovereign Majesty Queen Elizabeth II
will
resume monarchial duties over all states, commonwealths and other
territories. Except Utah, which she does not fancy. Your new prime
minister
(The Right Honourable Tony Blair, MP for the 97.85% of you who have until
now been unaware that there is a world outside your borders) will appoint
a
minister for America without the need for further elections. Congress and
the Senate will be disbanded. A questionnaire will be circulated next year
to determine whether any of you noticed. To aid in the transition to a
British Crown Dependency, the following rules are introduced with
immediate
effect:

1. You should look up "revocation" in the Oxford English Dictionary. Then
look up "aluminium". Check the pronunciation guide. You will be amazed at
just how wrongly you have been pronouncing it. The letter 'U' will be
reinstated in words such as 'favour' and 'neighbour', skipping the letter
'U' is nothing more than laziness on your part. Likewise, you will learn
to
spell 'doughnut' without skipping half the letters. You will end your love
affair with the letter 'Z' (pronounced 'zed' not 'zee') and the suffix
"ize"
will be replaced by the suffix "ise". You will learn that the suffix
'burgh
is pronounced 'burra' e.g. Edinburgh. You are welcome to respell
Pittsburgh
as 'Pittsberg' if you can't cope with correct pronunciation. Generally,
you
should raise your vocabulary to acceptable levels. Look up "vocabulary".
Using the same twenty seven words interspersed with filler noises such as
"like" and "you know" is an unacceptable and inefficient form of
communication. Look up "interspersed". There will be no more 'bleeps' in
the
Jerry Springer show. If you're not old enough to cope with bad language
then
you shouldn't have chat shows. When you learn to develop your vocabulary
then you won't have to use bad language as often.

2. There is no such thing as "US English". We will let Microsoft know on
your behalf. The Microsoft spell-checker will be adjusted to take account
of
the reinstated letter 'u' and the elimination of "-ize".

3. You should learn to distinguish the English and Australian accents. It
really isn't that hard. English accents are not limited to Cockney,
upper-class twit or Mancunian (Daphne in Frasier). You will also have to
learn how to understand regional accents - Scottish dramas such as
"Taggart"
will no longer be broadcast with subtitles. While we're talking about
regions, you must learn that there is no such place as Devonshire in
England. The name of the county is "Devon". If you persist in calling it
Devonshire, all American States will become "shires" e.g. Texasshire,
Floridashire, Louisianashire.

4. Hollywood will be required occasionally to cast English actors as the
good guys. Hollywood will be required to cast English actors to play
English
characters. British sit-coms such as "Men Behaving Badly" or "Red Dwarf"
will not be re-cast and watered down for a wishy-washy American audience
who
can't cope with the humour of occasional political incorrectness.

5. You should relearn your original national anthem, "God Save The Queen",
but only after fully carrying out task 1. We would not want you to get
confused and give up half way through.

6. You should stop playing American "football". There is only one kind of
football. What you refer to as American "football" is not a very good
game.
The 2.15% of you who are aware that there is a world outside your borders
may have noticed that no one else plays "American" football. You will no
longer be allowed to play it, and should instead play proper football.
Initially, it would be best if you played with the girls. It is a
difficult
game. Those of you brave enough will, in time, be allowed to play rugby
(which is similar to American "football", but does not involve stopping
for
a rest every twenty seconds or wearing full kevlar body armour like
nancies). We are hoping to get together at least a US rugby sevens side by
2005. You should stop playing baseball. It is not reasonable to host an
event called the 'World Series' for a game which is not played outside of
America. Since only 2.15% of you are aware that there is a world beyond
your
borders, your error is understandable. Instead of baseball, you will be
allowed to play a girls' game called "rounders" which is baseball without
fancy team strip, oversized gloves, collector cards or hotdogs.

7. You should declare war on Quebec and France, using nuclear weapons if
they give you any merde. The 97.85% of you who were not aware that there
is
a world outside your borders should count yourselves lucky. The Russians
have never been the bad guys. "Merde" is French for "5hit".
You will no longer be allowed to own or carry guns. You will no longer be
allowed to own or carry anything more dangerous in public than a vegetable
peeler. Because we don't believe you are sensible enough to handle
potentially dangerous items, you will require a permit if you wish to
carry
a vegetable peeler in public.

8. July 4th is no longer a public holiday. November 2th will be a new
national holiday, but only in England. It will be called "Indecisive Day".

9. All American cars are hereby banned. They are crap and it is for your
own
good. When we show you German cars, you will understand what we mean. All
road intersections will be replaced with roundabouts. You will start
driving
on the left with immediate effect. At the same time, you will go metric
with
immediate effect and without the benefit of conversion tables. Roundabouts
and metrication will help you understand the British sense of humour.

10. You will learn to make real chips. Those things you call French fries
are not real chips. Fries aren't even French, they are Belgian though
97.85%
of you (including the guy who discovered fries while in Europe) are not
aware of a country called Belgium. Those things you insist on calling
potato
chips are properly called "crisps". Real chips are thick cut and fried in
animal fat. The traditional accompaniment to chips is beer which should be
served warm and flat. Waitresses will be trained to be more aggressive
with
customers.

11. As a sign of penance 5 grams of sea salt per cup will be added to all
tea made within the Commonwealth of Massachusetts, this quantity to be
doubled for tea made within the city of Boston itself.

12. The cold tasteless stuff you insist on calling beer is not actually
beer
at all, it is lager. From November 1st only proper British Bitter will be
referred to as "beer", and European brews of known and accepted provenance
will be referred to as "Lager". The substances formerly known as "American
Beer" will henceforth be referred to as "Near-Frozen Knat's Urine", with
the
exception of the product of the American Budweiser company whose product
will be referred to as "Weak Near-Frozen Knat's Urine". This will allow
true
Budweiser (as manufactured for the last 1000 years in Pilsen, Czech
Republic) to be sold without risk of confusion.

13. From December 1st the UK will harmonise petrol (or "Gasoline" as you
will be permitted to keep calling it until April 1st 2005) prices with the
former USA. The UK will harmonise its prices to those of the former USA
and
the Former USA will, in return, adopt UK petrol prices (roughly $6/US
gallon - get used to it).

14. You will learn to resolve personal issues without using guns, lawyers
or
therapists. The fact that you need so many lawyers and therapists shows
that
you're not adult enough to be independent. Guns should only be handled by
adults. If you're not adult enough to sort things out without suing
someone
or speaking to a therapist then you're not grown up enough to handle a
gun.

15. Please tell us who killed JFK. It's been driving us crazy.

Tax collectors from Her Majesty's Government will be with you shortly to
ensure the acquisition of all revenues due (backdated to 1776).

Thank you for your cooperation and have a nice day!!!!!!!!!

In article ,
Capt. Mooron wrote:
EXCELLENT!!!!

..as a member of the Commonwealth that holds seniority...
I hereby request permission to allow Canada to take a plank to the newest
member's collective arse!

Only as a manner of Welcome of course! :-D

Better watch out. According to Bush, you're either with us or against
us.

--
Jonathan Ganz (j gan z @ $ail no w.c=o=m)
http://www.sailnow.com
"If there's no wind, row."

wrote in message
BTW. Bush, in pandering to the nitwits of South Florida, more or less
promised
that we would invade Cuba and take it over within the next four years.

........ can you spell.... "D-R-A-F-T " .... it's comin soon!

Canada is already printing out new customs forms... B.) Reason for Visit? -
1.] - Draft Dodge

CM

"Jonathan Ganz" wrote in message

Better watch out. According to Bush, you're either with us or against
us.

We're neither...... until you start buyin' our cows again you're on your
own!!

CM

In article ,
Capt. Mooron wrote:

"Jonathan Ganz" wrote in message

Better watch out. According to Bush, you're either with us or against
us.

We're neither...... until you start buyin' our cows again you're on your
own!!

Yeah, that's what you think... :-)


--
Jonathan Ganz (j gan z @ $ail no w.c=o=m)
http://www.sailnow.com
"If there's no wind, row."

I like the part about attacking Canada. grin

Another fine idea! It would be nice to buy Cuban cigars locally.

wrote

On 4 Nov 2004 14:50:52 -0800, (Jonathan Ganz)
wrote:

In article ,
Capt. Mooron wrote:
EXCELLENT!!!!

..as a member of the Commonwealth that holds seniority...
I hereby request permission to allow Canada to take a plank to the newest
member's collective arse!

Only as a manner of Welcome of course! :-D

Better watch out. According to Bush, you're either with us or against
us.

BTW. Bush, in pandering to the nitwits of South Florida, more or less
promised
that we would invade Cuba and take it over within the next four years.

BB

You really want Newfoundland????

"Bart Senior" wrote in message
et...
I like the part about attacking Canada. grin

BTW...where have you been????

"Bart Senior" wrote in message
et...
Another fine idea! It would be nice to buy Cuban cigars locally.

wrote

On 4 Nov 2004 14:50:52 -0800, (Jonathan Ganz)
wrote:

In article ,
Capt. Mooron wrote:
EXCELLENT!!!!

..as a member of the Commonwealth that holds seniority...
I hereby request permission to allow Canada to take a plank to the
newest
member's collective arse!

Only as a manner of Welcome of course! :-D

Better watch out. According to Bush, you're either with us or against
us.

BTW. Bush, in pandering to the nitwits of South Florida, more or less
promised
that we would invade Cuba and take it over within the next four years.

BB

Well the way to solve the Canadian problem is invade....then immediately
surrender. A few years later we get the vote and 300 million trumps 5
million (subtracting of course the geese) any day. Hillary could really do
this as President. Probably her only chance to get socialized medicine in
place.

M.



"katysails" wrote in message
...
BTW...where have you been????

"Bart Senior" wrote in message
et...
Another fine idea! It would be nice to buy Cuban cigars locally.

wrote

On 4 Nov 2004 14:50:52 -0800, (Jonathan
Ganz)
wrote:

In article ,
Capt. Mooron wrote:
EXCELLENT!!!!

..as a member of the Commonwealth that holds seniority...
I hereby request permission to allow Canada to take a plank to the
newest
member's collective arse!

Only as a manner of Welcome of course! :-D

Better watch out. According to Bush, you're either with us or against
us.

BTW. Bush, in pandering to the nitwits of South Florida, more or less
promised
that we would invade Cuba and take it over within the next four years.

BB

I thought that was pretty funny as well... what would the new camo be for
the freshly drafted US troops?
Red checkered Lumberjack Shirts, a black toque, suspenders and a case of
Molson's Canadian beer? :-D


CM



"Bart Senior" wrote in message
et...
I like the part about attacking Canada. grin

"Capt. Mooron" wrote in message
...

Red checkered Lumberjack Shirts, black fishnet nylons, suspenders
and a case of
Molson's Canadian beer? :-D

oiy!

BB smirks thusly:

I think Bush has effectively destroyed the future
of an all volunteer military. Nice ****ing work, Smirking Chimp!

You're absolutely right! It's about time! The all volunteer military was a
bunch of weekend warriors that couldn't fight their way out of a paper bag.
What we need is a 2 year draft, where every one is made to realize that
military duty is just that: a DUTY, not a part time job or a way to get your
college tuition paid.

In article ,
Recobee wrote:
BB smirks thusly:

I think Bush has effectively destroyed the future
of an all volunteer military. Nice ****ing work, Smirking Chimp!

You're absolutely right! It's about time! The all volunteer military was a
bunch of weekend warriors that couldn't fight their way out of a paper bag.
What we need is a 2 year draft, where every one is made to realize that
military duty is just that: a DUTY, not a part time job or a way to get your
college tuition paid.

Slamming the military... sounds like a patriot to me...



--
Jonathan Ganz (j gan z @ $ail no w.c=o=m)
http://www.sailnow.com
"If there's no wind, row."

Bart,

I believe they're talking about "Land Possession" not SEX!!!

Ole Thom

Ganz thinks so!

I think not! Its time to face facts. Patriotism and a sense of duty have gone
out the window. How many of the young men that are now serving in the NATIONAL
GUARD, etc., are there because of a sense of duty? What percentage of them
expected they would be fighting and dying on foreign soil to protect their
country? How many women generals know what it means to dig out a bloody
victory? How many women MP's know how to guard prisoners?

I suspect that many of them figured this was a weekend job, and that at most
they would be called out to help in some sort of national disaster, not have to
shoot and kill or be killed. I am upset when I see men and women, led by a
women general incapable of properly guarding prisoners. I am upset when I see
men and women refusing an order because they think it's to dangerous. I am
upset when I see men and women crying to mommy that their equipment isn't good
enough.

Am I slamming the military? I suppose so. I know that there are a significant
number of hardass patriotic men that do in fact serve, but not enough of them.
And we really need to make every one serve, and every one learn just what it
means to be a patriot.

That's not a football team in Massachusetts.

In article ,
Recobee wrote:
Ganz thinks so!

I think so if you're talking about the soldiers on the ground. If
you're talking about the upper-level of the military who don't insist
on having their advice heard, who pander to BushCo because they're
afraid of Rumsfeld forcing them out, then no.

I think not! Its time to face facts. Patriotism and a sense of duty have gone
out the window. How many of the young men that are now serving in the NATIONAL
GUARD, etc., are there because of a sense of duty? What percentage of them
expected they would be fighting and dying on foreign soil to protect their
country? How many women generals know what it means to dig out a bloody
victory? How many women MP's know how to guard prisoners?

I suspect that many did sign up because of sense of duty, and many
signed up for economic benefit. Doesn't matter. Both groups die the
same.

I suspect that many of them figured this was a weekend job, and that at most
they would be called out to help in some sort of national disaster, not have to
shoot and kill or be killed. I am upset when I see men and women, led by a
women general incapable of properly guarding prisoners. I am upset when I see
men and women refusing an order because they think it's to dangerous. I am
upset when I see men and women crying to mommy that their equipment isn't good
enough.

Seems to me that you are making assumptions about women in the
military. I don't have the complete facts about the specific female
general, but I believe she had her orders. She also gave a few
interviews wherein she disputed her "being in charge" of that part of
the prison.

Am I slamming the military? I suppose so. I know that there are a significant
number of hardass patriotic men that do in fact serve, but not enough of them.
And we really need to make every one serve, and every one learn just what it
means to be a patriot.

I agree. We need more. Kerry advocated increasing the size of the
Special Forces. Bush hasn't done much at all, except deny many of the
troops the equipment they need to do an effective, safer job.

That's not a football team in Massachusetts.

Neither is it in Texas.




--
Jonathan Ganz (j gan z @ $ail no w.c=o=m)
http://www.sailnow.com
"If there's no wind, row."

Patriotism and a sense of duty have gone
out the window.

And it's taken many years of awful leadership to make this happen. Bush is the
worst yet.

RB

"Recobee" wrote
I think not! Its time to face facts. Patriotism and a sense of duty have
gone
out the window. How many of the young men that are now serving in the
NATIONAL
GUARD, etc., are there because of a sense of duty? What percentage of
them
expected they would be fighting and dying on foreign soil to protect their
country? How many women generals know what it means to dig out a bloody
victory? How many women MP's know how to guard prisoners?

I live near a major Guard and Spl Forces training facility. ALL of the
guardsmen I've met have a strong sense of duty. And when it comes to being
mean and hard you obviously don't know many young women. A bike club once
tied a miscreant to a metal bedsprings with a old ford coil hooked you know
where. Anybody could 'push his button' for a quarter. Guess which sex did
all the pushing.


....... I am upset when I see men and women, led by a
women general incapable of properly guarding prisoners. I am upset when I
see
men and women refusing an order because they think it's to dangerous. I
am
upset when I see men and women crying to mommy that their equipment isn't
good
enough.

Then get used to it. A couple kids on our local ROTC shooting team are back
from their second tours as snipers in the Marine Reserves. Both killed
people without qualm as ordered. Both privately told me that they had to
say they didn't like it to calm folks back home. The girl didn't like
packing the heavy 50 cal rifle but loved the effect that blowing a terrorist
apart with it from half a mile away had on his buddies (c:

Are prisoners escaping in droves? No? Then what's this 'incapable' BS. If
you are sniviling about maltreating prisoners I'd remind you that SecDef
Rumsfeld ignored JAG admonishments to encourage the "atrocities" then left
the grunts, male and female, to take the heat when they followed his
"advise". What can we expect with leaders like that? Oh! That's right!!
You voted for more of the same!!! And your sis P-whipped you? Go ahead and
blame the women MPs then.

A kid I talked to recalled his squad busting into a building full of
mujahadeen. The point man thru the door took 3 AK rounds in the chest before
killing his attacker. He walked away, albiet sore, because he had the latest
vest. The rest of the squad did not. I'd do some ****ing and moaning too
were I one of them. I recall a lot of complaints about M-16s jamming in
'nam too. I suppose those guys were sissies too?

AFAIK nobody refused an order because it was dangerous. A fuel delivery
crew did refuse to deliver bad fuel to combat vehicles - not because of
danger to themselves but because the bad fuel would put the combat troops in
*unnessary* danger.

... I know that there are a significant
number of hardass patriotic men that do in fact serve, but not enough of
them.

G. Witless Bush and Don Rummyfeld disagree. "Enough of them" would have
been the 300 - 500,000 General Shinseki said we'd need, not just to topple
Saddam but to *secure the peace*. But G.Witless and Rummy only sent
140,000, thus allowing Al Qaeda agents to follow our troops in and loot
Saddam's weapons stashes for the crap now being used to kill our boys - and
perhaps to bomb your kids' school next month. Its the 3 stooges -LBJ,
Westmoreland and McNamara -all over again! And when the protests begin you
can blame them too.

"Joe" wrote

After all how can you chose a commander and chief if you do not have a
clue what it's all about.

Joe
USS Samuel Gompers AD-37

Bwahahahaha! Jeeze stop, my poor old busted up ribs hurt. An AD?? Can you
say REMF?

When writting about the decline of the military,

Bobspud sputters:

And it's taken many years of awful leadership to make this happen.

Yes, I'd say about 8 years...When Hillary ran the government. You know, the
don't ask don't tell years.

Vito tells us:

I live near a major Guard and Spl Forces training facility. ALL of the
guardsmen I've met have a strong sense of duty.

All of the RESERVE or all of the Spec OPS. There is a BIG difference. And how
many is ALL anyway?

And as far as those mean young biker women, how many of them served in the
armed forces? And for how long? And what do they think of the National Guard?
Do they go out with any of them? And who was the miscreant? What service did
he serve in?

And it's taken many years of awful leadership to make this happen.

Yes, I'd say about 8 years...When Hillary ran the government. You know, the
don't ask don't tell years.


Dems and republicans are really in outer space with dumb posts that try to
claim full credit for longer term succeses or lay all the blame for problems.
I see that you're one of those idiots. Congrats!

RB

You really want people like ganz & bob in the military?


SV


"Joe" wrote in message
om...
(Recobee) wrote in message
...


I agree 100% recobee.

Infact I think if your not willing to serve and protect your country
then you should not be allowed to vote.

After all how can you chose a commander and chief if you do not have
a
clue what it's all about.

Joe
USS Samuel Gompers AD-37



Ganz thinks so!

I think not! Its time to face facts. Patriotism and a sense of
duty have gone
out the window. How many of the young men that are now serving in
the NATIONAL
GUARD, etc., are there because of a sense of duty? What
percentage of them
expected they would be fighting and dying on foreign soil to
protect their
country? How many women generals know what it means to dig out a
bloody
victory? How many women MP's know how to guard prisoners?

I suspect that many of them figured this was a weekend job, and
that at most
they would be called out to help in some sort of national
disaster, not have to
shoot and kill or be killed. I am upset when I see men and
women, led by a
women general incapable of properly guarding prisoners. I am
upset when I see
men and women refusing an order because they think it's to
dangerous. I am
upset when I see men and women crying to mommy that their
equipment isn't good
enough.

Am I slamming the military? I suppose so. I know that there are
a significant
number of hardass patriotic men that do in fact serve, but not
enough of them.
And we really need to make every one serve, and every one learn
just what it
means to be a patriot.

That's not a football team in Massachusetts.

In article ,
Scott Vernon wrote:
You really want people like ganz & bob in the military?

Well, Elvis, it couldn't be any worse than someone like you.
--
Jonathan Ganz (j gan z @ $ail no w.c=o=m)
http://www.sailnow.com
"If there's no wind, row."

"Vito" wrote in message ...
"Joe" wrote

After all how can you chose a commander and chief if you do not have a
clue what it's all about.

Joe
USS Samuel Gompers AD-37

Bwahahahaha! Jeeze stop, my poor old busted up ribs hurt. An AD?? Can you
say REMF?

To hard to pronounce..

And without AD's the rest of the fleet would just fall apart.

I was on a Sprunce class destroyer the David R Ray until I went to ABC
school and the Navy needed my skills more on a AD.

Joe

"Scott Vernon" wrote in message ...
You really want people like ganz & bob in the military?

Good point.

Joe




SV


"Joe" wrote in message
om...
(Recobee) wrote in message
...


I agree 100% recobee.

Infact I think if your not willing to serve and protect your country
then you should not be allowed to vote.

After all how can you chose a commander and chief if you do not have
a
clue what it's all about.

Joe
USS Samuel Gompers AD-37



Ganz thinks so!

I think not! Its time to face facts. Patriotism and a sense of
duty have gone
out the window. How many of the young men that are now serving in
the NATIONAL
GUARD, etc., are there because of a sense of duty? What
percentage of them
expected they would be fighting and dying on foreign soil to
protect their
country? How many women generals know what it means to dig out a
bloody
victory? How many women MP's know how to guard prisoners?

I suspect that many of them figured this was a weekend job, and
that at most
they would be called out to help in some sort of national
disaster, not have to
shoot and kill or be killed. I am upset when I see men and
women, led by a
women general incapable of properly guarding prisoners. I am
upset when I see
men and women refusing an order because they think it's to
dangerous. I am
upset when I see men and women crying to mommy that their
equipment isn't good
enough.

Am I slamming the military? I suppose so. I know that there are
a significant
number of hardass patriotic men that do in fact serve, but not
enough of them.
And we really need to make every one serve, and every one learn
just what it
means to be a patriot.

That's not a football team in Massachusetts.

In article ,
Joe wrote:
"Scott Vernon" wrote in message ...
I have a point on the top of my head.

Good point.

Joe
--
Jonathan Ganz (j gan z @ $ail no w.c=o=m)
http://www.sailnow.com
"If there's no wind, row."

What's an AD?


"Joe" wrote in message
om...
"Vito" wrote in message
...
"Joe" wrote

After all how can you chose a commander and chief if you do not
have a
clue what it's all about.

Joe
USS Samuel Gompers AD-37

Bwahahahaha! Jeeze stop, my poor old busted up ribs hurt. An AD??
Can you
say REMF?

To hard to pronounce..

And without AD's the rest of the fleet would just fall apart.

I was on a Sprunce class destroyer the David R Ray until I went to
ABC
school and the Navy needed my skills more on a AD.

Joe

In article ,
Scott Vernon wrote:
What's an AD?

It's ADD. Attention Deficit Disorder.

--
Jonathan Ganz (j gan z @ $ail no w.c=o=m)
http://www.sailnow.com
"If there's no wind, row."

"Scott Vernon" wanted to know:

You really want people like ganz & bob in the military?

No problem. When the military was the military, they had such things as
motivational platoons, strength platoons, and even blanket parties to help mold
guys like ganzie and bobie into soldiers or sailors of some worth.

In article ,
Recobee wrote:
"Scott Vernon" wanted to know:

You really want people like ganz & bob in the military?

No problem. When the military was the military, they had such things as
motivational platoons, strength platoons, and even blanket parties to help mold
guys like ganzie and bobie into soldiers or sailors of some worth.

I'm sure a sockpuppet like yourself would be quite familiar with
blanket parties. You and Scotty must have been bottom buddies
together.




--
Jonathan Ganz (j gan z @ $ail no w.c=o=m)
http://www.sailnow.com
"If there's no wind, row."

"Recobee" wrote in message
...
"Scott Vernon" wanted to know:

You really want people like ganz & bob in the military?

No problem. When the military was the military, they had such
things as
motivational platoons, strength platoons, and even blanket parties
to help mold
guys like ganzie and bobie into soldiers or sailors of some worth.


I'm sure ganz will comment about the blanket parties.

SV

In article ,
Scott Vernon wrote:

"Recobee" wrote in message
...
"Scott Vernon" wanted to know:

You really want people like ganz & bob in the military?

No problem. When the military was the military, they had such
things as
motivational platoons, strength platoons, and even blanket parties
to help mold
guys like ganzie and bobie into soldiers or sailors of some worth.


I'm sure ganz will comment about the blanket parties.

Looks like you're the expert. Is that what you do with your other
trucker buddies?

--
Jonathan Ganz (j gan z @ $ail no w.c=o=m)
http://www.sailnow.com
"If there's no wind, row."

Do you even know what a blanket party is?

"Jonathan Loser Ganz" wrote

I'm sure ganz will comment about the blanket parties.

Looks like you're the expert. Is that what you do with your other
trucker buddies?
JayGaynz
''if you lose the election- cry foul''

In article ,
Scott Vernon wrote:
Do you even know what a blanket party is?

Looks like you're the expert. Is that what you do with your other
trucker buddies?

Apparently so...

--
Jonathan Ganz (j gan z @ $ail no w.c=o=m)
http://www.sailnow.com
"If there's no wind, row."

and the 'don't ask, don't tell' policy.

SV

"Recobee" wrote in message
...
"Scott Vernon" wanted to know:

You really want people like ganz & bob in the military?

No problem. When the military was the military, they had such
things as
motivational platoons, strength platoons, and even blanket parties
to help mold
guys like ganzie and bobie into soldiers or sailors of some worth.

"Scott Vernon" wrote in message ...
What's an AD?

It's a class of destroyer tender.
Mine now lays at the bottom of the Atlantic
http://www.usssamuelgompers.org



"Joe" wrote in message
om...
"Vito" wrote in message
...
"Joe" wrote

After all how can you chose a commander and chief if you do not
have a
clue what it's all about.

Joe
USS Samuel Gompers AD-37

Bwahahahaha! Jeeze stop, my poor old busted up ribs hurt. An AD??
Can you
say REMF?

To hard to pronounce..

And without AD's the rest of the fleet would just fall apart.

I was on a Sprunce class destroyer the David R Ray until I went to
ABC
school and the Navy needed my skills more on a AD.

Joe