OK, So Doug can't stand Beneteaus but Doug thinks that Hunter &
Catalina can be just a bad. Problem is the Benuntina is the brand I
can generally afford, even used, so I'll be tapping decks and hulls on
any boat I look at. The Jeaneau Sun 2000 is a pretty boat too, but is
generally too expensive for me, and shipping from europe to Texas
isn't so pretty.

So how about details pertinent to the 210?
DSK said that the B210 is "a bit more cumbersome to trailer than we
liked." I've also heard that it can be a little bit of a struggle to
rig, even with factory rigging system.

DSK: What is cumbesome? Heavy (2500 lb) and tall (2-foot draft plus
big freboard)? I've got a truck to pull with so weight and drag won't
be much of an issue. I can guess that working on the boat while it
sits on a trailer can be a pain.

What about that "unique" CB mechanism, especially vs. winch and cable?
Is that CB "housing" padded or what?

What about the double rudder mechanism, does this need
reinforcement/rebuilding?

How is the hardware outfit? looks like two pretty small winches, are
these sufficient? (My last 2 boats were too small to need winches so
Iduhknow)

Boat has a B4/C6 CE Certification (up to 45 miles offshore in B-force
4, inshore to B-force 6). What's the reality?

Anyone have personal experience with the B-210?

Ever see the Far Side cartoon: "Beware of Doug"?

Thanks guys. MA.

"Minty Alpinist" wrote in message
om...
I saw a picture recently in a magazine and thought it looked cool.
Only 21 feet and not much gadgets inside is ok w/me and my wife, we
like camping. Definately need cb as our boat will have to be stored on
a trailer.

Used prices would fit our budget.

Otherwise, I'm looking for your opinion concerning value/cost, problem
issues, good points, bad points, retrofits, etc...

Can you help? Thanks. MA

"Minty Alpinist" wrote in message
om...
OK, So Doug can't stand Beneteaus but Doug thinks that Hunter &
Catalina can be just a bad. Problem is the Benuntina is the brand I
can generally afford, even used, so I'll be tapping decks and hulls on
any boat I look at.

You may tap away to your heart's content. You won't find any problem hulls.

Beneteau have been in business a long time. Their hulls are OK.


Boat has a B4/C6 CE Certification (up to 45 miles offshore in B-force
4, inshore to B-force 6). What's the reality?

The reality is that boats are now designed to meet a particular
certification. That means that they will satisfy the "minimum" requirements
for the degree of certification that they are aiming for.

However, I wouldn't worry about being out in a F4 in a 210.



Regards


Donal
--

Stick to alpinism. All you need is what you can carry on your back - uphill.
Sailing requires too much sitting, eating rich food and being around too
many idiots. The prerequisite for alpinism is excellent physical
conditioning, reaching a state of hardiness suitable to alpine undertakings.
Sailing has no entry requirements. Any doubts? Compare Messner to that
O'Conner guy. Tilman was the only real sailor/alpinist.

Gilligan


"Minty Alpinist" wrote in message
om...
OK, So Doug can't stand Beneteaus but Doug thinks that Hunter &
Catalina can be just a bad. Problem is the Benuntina is the brand I
can generally afford, even used, so I'll be tapping decks and hulls on
any boat I look at. The Jeaneau Sun 2000 is a pretty boat too, but is
generally too expensive for me, and shipping from europe to Texas
isn't so pretty.

So how about details pertinent to the 210?
DSK said that the B210 is "a bit more cumbersome to trailer than we
liked." I've also heard that it can be a little bit of a struggle to
rig, even with factory rigging system.

DSK: What is cumbesome? Heavy (2500 lb) and tall (2-foot draft plus
big freboard)? I've got a truck to pull with so weight and drag won't
be much of an issue. I can guess that working on the boat while it
sits on a trailer can be a pain.

What about that "unique" CB mechanism, especially vs. winch and cable?
Is that CB "housing" padded or what?

What about the double rudder mechanism, does this need
reinforcement/rebuilding?

How is the hardware outfit? looks like two pretty small winches, are
these sufficient? (My last 2 boats were too small to need winches so
Iduhknow)

Boat has a B4/C6 CE Certification (up to 45 miles offshore in B-force
4, inshore to B-force 6). What's the reality?

Anyone have personal experience with the B-210?

Ever see the Far Side cartoon: "Beware of Doug"?

Thanks guys. MA.

"Minty Alpinist" wrote in message
om...
I saw a picture recently in a magazine and thought it looked cool.
Only 21 feet and not much gadgets inside is ok w/me and my wife, we
like camping. Definately need cb as our boat will have to be stored on
a trailer.

Used prices would fit our budget.

Otherwise, I'm looking for your opinion concerning value/cost, problem
issues, good points, bad points, retrofits, etc...

Can you help? Thanks. MA

Thanks Donal, I'll catch onto this bluewater thing yet.


Gilligan...No can do the alpinist thing anymore...got fat and old so
now it time to be a sailor, likest thou...

I haven't gotten fat, just a bit older, a bit more susceptible to my genetic
defects and past injuries. I'm still doing it! (and my palms aren't hairy
and I'm not blind)

Believe me, looking into that space capsule size cabin, smelling the rich
food, fiberglass, power boaters, PWC's etc makes me realize spending a night
on a rat infested ledge, below freezing, with no sleeping bag is much more
appealing. Fritz Weissner climb into his 80's. Messner is still almost
superhuman. Throw away your crutches and head off into the wilderness! Amen!

Gilligan

"Minty Alpinist" wrote in message
om...
Thanks Donal, I'll catch onto this bluewater thing yet.


Gilligan...No can do the alpinist thing anymore...got fat and old so
now it time to be a sailor, likest thou...