"DSK" wrote

Partly it's a question of sheer numbers. How many hundred million
paper
votes do you all have to tally? How many people have to make it
through
the polls in a day?

About 200 here.



Our ballot was also paper but is an optical scan.


Here in Plowville we have electonic ballet booths. Just touch the
screen and you're counted.


places don't require ID but our area does,

Here, the old ladies at the table know every one.


I still have a slight bit of hope that Ohio will go to Kerry and
give
him the election,


Stop dreaming. Wake up and get to work.



Scott Vernon
Plowville Pa _/)__/)_/)_

"DSK" wrote in message

It's like 1972 (Nixon) all over again... people know they're being lied to
and choose the lies that suit their prejudices & wishful thinking.

I'd like to hallmark this phrase as an archetypal piece of liberal ideology:
that a select few elitist individuals possess the level of intelligence to
run the country while the majority is stupid, senseless, and corrupt. Of
course this same arrogant belief was held by the ruling oligarchy in the
former Soviet Union for decades as well, and look where it got them.

Max

Maxprop wrote:
I'd like to hallmark this phrase as an archetypal piece of liberal ideology:

I'd like to bronze this statement as the ultimate in head-up-the-ass
"neoconservative" stupidity.

You *still* want you call me a "liberal" which proves that
1- you don't know what liberalism is (do know what "is" is?)
2- you don't pay attention
3- facts matter less to you than partisan name-calling

The country has made it's choice. That's good.

I don't like it, however. I don't have to. That damn sure doesn't make
me a liberal. Calling me one makes you a jackass.

Is that clear enough now?

DSK

"DSK" wrote in message

Maxprop wrote:
I'd like to hallmark this phrase as an archetypal piece of liberal
ideology:

I'd like to bronze this statement as the ultimate in head-up-the-ass
"neoconservative" stupidity.

You *still* want you call me a "liberal" which proves that
1- you don't know what liberalism is (do know what "is" is?)

I know precisely what liberalism is. Fact is, you're one of the most
liberal assholes contributing to this NG. Liberal because you espouse big,
all-knowing, all-encompassing government. "Asshole" simply because you are.

2- you don't pay attention

I was formerly amused by your insistence that you're a conservative. More
recently it's grown tedious. You can put perfume on a pig, but at the end
of the day it's still a pig.

3- facts matter less to you than partisan name-calling

You're the name-calling champ, chump. I've only begun to learn from the
master: thou.

The country has made it's choice. That's good.

Actually it's a democratic republic and entitled to make that choice.

I don't like it, however. I don't have to. That damn sure doesn't make
me a liberal. Calling me one makes you a jackass.

Your preference for a particular candidate has nothing to do with it. You
obviously don't read well, Doug. Most likely a product of outcome-based
education, sorry. I called you a liberal because of your redundant
diatribes branding the masses as stupid and unfit to run their own affairs.
I think you honestly believe you know what's best for the rest of us,
despite our preference for some other socio-political ideology. That is a
recurrent theme in virtually every leftist regime in history.

Is that clear enough now?

Ask yourself. You're the comprehensionally-challenged one.

Come out of the closet, Doug. There's no shame in being liberal.
Much.

(Time to killfile me again, Bilgewater Bill the Brainwashed.)

Max

In article .net,
Maxprop wrote:
I know precisely what liberalism is. Fact is, you're one of the most
liberal assholes contributing to this NG. Liberal because you espouse big,
all-knowing, all-encompassing government. "Asshole" simply because you are.

Doug is many things, but asshole isn't one of them. In fact, he's one
of the more reasonable, clear-thinking people on this newsgroup.

I'm sure he would be honored to have you killfile him.

I was formerly amused by your insistence that you're a conservative. More
recently it's grown tedious. You can put perfume on a pig, but at the end
of the day it's still a pig.

You have no idea what real conservatism is, because you've got your
head too far up the ass of BushCo to see daylight.

3- facts matter less to you than partisan name-calling

You're the name-calling champ, chump. I've only begun to learn from the
master: thou.

We've seen the posts of the right-wing wackos for months. When they,
and you run out of logic, you fall back on name-calling.

The country has made it's choice. That's good.

Actually it's a democratic republic and entitled to make that choice.

Entitled for sure. Poor choice, IMHO, also for sure.

Your preference for a particular candidate has nothing to do with it. You
obviously don't read well, Doug. Most likely a product of outcome-based
education, sorry. I called you a liberal because of your redundant
diatribes branding the masses as stupid and unfit to run their own affairs.
I think you honestly believe you know what's best for the rest of us,
despite our preference for some other socio-political ideology. That is a
recurrent theme in virtually every leftist regime in history.

Homebased education is typically better than what you'll find in
public schools. Do the research if you don't believe me.

--
Jonathan Ganz (j gan z @ $ail no w.c=o=m)
http://www.sailnow.com
"If there's no wind, row."

--
"Jonathan Loser Ganz" wrote

Homo education is typically better than what you'll find in
public schools. Believe me, I know.

--
Jonathan Ganz (j gan z @ $ail no w.c=o=m)
http://www.sailnow.com
"If there's no win, lose"

Maxprop wrote:
I know precisely what liberalism is. Fact is, you're one of the most
liberal assholes contributing to this NG.

If that is true, then you should have no trouble at all quoting 3 of my
posts espousing "liberal" views, other than opposition to President
George W. Bush Jr (which is allowed by the Constitution, last time I
checked) and is shared by many prominent Republicans & conservatives.

Put up or shut up.


3- facts matter less to you than partisan name-calling


You're the name-calling champ, chump. I've only begun to learn from the
master: thou.

I only call you stupid when you post stupid things, for example that
Australia must be a totalitarian state.

DSK

Maxprop wrote:
Yesterday's voting was at an all-time high for a presidential
election. Turnout exceeded everyone's predictions. As a matter of trivial
fact, Bush won by the greatest number of popular votes in US history as
well.

These statements may well be true, but in light of an ever increasing population a rather meaningless bit
of trivia; now if he won by the greatest percentage, then you might have something of significance.

Cheers
Marty

Max

"Martin Baxter" wrote in message

Maxprop wrote:
Yesterday's voting was at an all-time high for a presidential election.
Turnout exceeded everyone's predictions. As a matter of trivial fact,
Bush won by the greatest number of popular votes in US history as well.

These statements may well be true, but in light of an ever increasing
population a rather meaningless bit
of trivia;

It would be trivial if past presidential elections had also reflected the
population demographic. But they didn't. This year's election drew more
voters as a percentage of the total population than any other in recent
history. THAT was my point to Oz: it's why the lines at the polls were
long and time-consuming. My point had nothing to do with patting W on the
back for drawing the largest popular vote in history. But since you brought
it up . . . :-)

Max

that's good. I believe we had around a 60% turnout this year, which is
exceptionally high.
What happens to those that don't vote?

Scotty, a typical lazy American


OzOne wrote in message
...
On Wed, 3 Nov 2004 18:20:05 -0500, "Scott Vernon"
scribbled thusly:

What percentage shows up to vote?


At local elections wher voting isn't compulsory, over 78%

At the nationwide (Federal) elections, over 96% turnout and there
was
talk of the exceptionally high turnout at the last election, last
month, so I'd expect the figure was closer to 99%.


Oz1...of the 3 twins.

I welcome you to crackerbox palace,We've been expecting you.