Doug wrote:
Where was the water coming in, was
the boat OK structurally after that?

The water must have entered trough the lazarette and the hatchboard,
maybe also through the doradeventil. The hacthboard has
ventilationholes, so I guess most of the water came that way, but the
lazarets drains into the bilge, and I assume that some water came that
way too.
We didn't take large amounts of water, the water level was more than
15 cm below the floorbords (otherwise I think the batteries would
have been dead,and they weren't) but the boat has a rather large sump.
I didn't actually have a look, I just had my head inside when I showed
the sprayhood down, and after that I just steered the boat and pumped
the water out.

There were no structural damage. The boat is rather strongly build,
but even with average strength I don't think there would have been any
structural damage.

I still wonder what would have happened if we had been hit by one of
the really big ones, but then again, I don't want to know.

Peter S/Y Anicula

"Bobsprit" wrote in message
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Your "sock puppet" status is not related to computer literacy. You appear
to be a sock puppet because you don't seem to have any opinions of your
own.

If I ever create a sockpuppet, it'll be one that sails
either a Coronado or a Swan.

You couldn't create a sockpuppet that sails anything!!!! You don't have the
sailing experience to carry it off.

That's why BB is so obvious. We haven't seen anything that would suggest
that BB has ever been more than a 1/2 mile from the marina in an F3.



Regards


Donal
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"Peter S/Y Anicula" wrote in message
news:kWxgd.60894

There were no structural damage. The boat is rather strongly build,
but even with average strength I don't think there would have been any
structural damage.

I still wonder what would have happened if we had been hit by one of
the really big ones, but then again, I don't want to know.


Thank you for posting those stories.

I swear that there was salt all over my screen after reading your posts.



Regards


Donal
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In article ,
Donal wrote:
Thank you for posting those stories.

I swear that there was salt all over my screen after reading your posts.

TMI
--
Jonathan Ganz (j gan z @ $ail no w.c=o=m)
http://www.sailnow.com
"If there's no wind, row."

In article ,
wrote:
On Fri, 29 Oct 2004 19:31:28 -0400, "Scott Vernon"
wrote:
Not entirely true, but then, we don't expect much from you in the honesty
department. I have posted pictures of my boat.

Bill, you have to give him the benefit of the donut.



--
Jonathan Ganz (j gan z @ $ail no w.c=o=m)
http://www.sailnow.com
"If there's no wind, row."

wrote

and we've never seen pics of BB or his pretend boat.

SV


Not entirely true, but then, we don't expect much from you in the
honesty
department. I have posted pictures of my boat.

Oh, right, Alien.

Nutsy,

When the spreader hit the water out here, we called that; " Spearing
Salmon with the spreader!" Not Good!!

Ole Thom

"Jonathan Ganz" wrote in message
...
In article ,
Donal wrote:
Thank you for posting those stories.

I swear that there was salt all over my screen after reading your posts.

TMI

Uh oh!! Did I type something that I didn't understand?



Regards

Donal
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Peter S/Y Anicula wrote:
The water must have entered trough the lazarette and the hatchboard,
maybe also through the doradeventil. The hacthboard has
ventilationholes, so I guess most of the water came that way, but the
lazarets drains into the bilge, and I assume that some water came that
way too.


Dorade vents can be a PITA. I've seen then scoop in buckets full of
water or have the air cowlings get swept off in really hard sailing. One
of those things to "batten down" beforehand if you have time. A few
modern boats I've seen have self-draining ventilators built into the
campanionway hood, this seems like a promising design.


We didn't take large amounts of water, the water level was more than
15 cm below the floorbords (otherwise I think the batteries would
have been dead,and they weren't) but the boat has a rather large sump.
I didn't actually have a look, I just had my head inside when I showed
the sprayhood down, and after that I just steered the boat and pumped
the water out.

One of the problems with sailing for a long time at large angles of heel
is that the bilge pump doesn't work! Or at least, very very few are
designed to suction anywhere except the low point when flat.

It's also interesting trying to get below, come out, or even
communicate. You don't want to open the hatch for very long, and it's
very difficult climbing in or out when the boat's motion is really
going. It's also dofficult to believe how *noisy* it is! A lot of times
we've been sailing ym wife has urged me to calm down and I'll reply "I'm
not mad, I'm yelling at you for the same reason you just yelled at me...
if not, we couldn't hear each other!"



There were no structural damage. The boat is rather strongly build,
but even with average strength I don't think there would have been any
structural damage.

Hmmm. You may have a higher "average" for production boat construction
down there than we have up here. A lot of mass-produced boats are built
for relatively mild conditions here, maybe a reefed-down blow once in a
while but they still flex & occasionally come apart. And after even one
season of steady hard sailing, many of them aren't the same again.
Bulkheads coming unbonded, hull-deck joints opening, etc etc.



I still wonder what would have happened if we had been hit by one of
the really big ones, but then again, I don't want to know.

My curiousity in such matters is mostly academic ;)

Fresh Breezes- Doug King

wrote in message
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On Fri, 29 Oct 2004 23:23:40 +0100, "Donal" wrote:

I also have to wonder why I would need a sock puppet since I seem to have
no
trouble saying anything I want to as myself.

.....but you haven't said anything, have you?

I bet that if you search Google, you won't find anything that you would feel
proud to re-post.


People create sock puppets so they
can say things they don't want to be accountable for. I don't seem to have
that
issue, do I? I've been posting as BB in usenet for many, many years.

I disagree. I think that you were created so that Bob could write nonsense
that he would normally be ashamed of.




Face it - You and Tougboat are so desperate and impotent, that this is all
you
have. The hope that someone will be muddled enough to think you make sense
with
this quackery.

Huh?



Meanwhile we KNOW you have never been out in an F3 because you have a
Beneteau
and the floorboard would have rattled too much for your hyper-sensitive,
girly-girl pysche



That example of your perceptive abilities sort of sums up your ability to
contribute to the sailing community.




Regards


Donal
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