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"DSK" wrote in SAIL LOCO wrote:
Since Kerry voted to go also based on the same info I guess he lied too. I don't understand this whole line of circular reasoning... Bush & Cheney lied to Congress. Kerry (and a lot of other people) fell for the lies, not having full access to better intel themselves and giving the benefit of the doubt to President Bush (which is as it should be). When I worked in a union shop we voted to strike every year when contract negotiations began. Now none of us wanted to strike but we wanted the "other side" (management) to believe we would if necessary. Kerry and many others did the same to hand Bush a weapon in bargaining with Saddam. Had our union officials put us on strike without pay for no better reasons than Bush had to attack Saddam we'd have put them on the street next election. That's what I hope happens to Bush. |
"SAIL LOCO" wrote
...... They all have a top secret clearance. Let me assure you that having a clearance and having access to data are two seperate things. |
I mean, seriously!!! Can Loco or Horvath be any dumber? Yes, they could be RB or BB. |
"Jonathan Ganz" wrote in message Every thing that is relevent is in the public domain. Bwahahahahahaha. Jon, you are so gullible. Max |
"Jonathan Ganz" wrote in message The "public" one. What Jon means is the one that Kerry wanted the public to see, not the one he didn't. Max |
"Jonathan Ganz" wrote in message And, you're a great speller! Hmmm. Pot. Kettle. Black. Max |
"Bobsprit" wrote in message Bush, the president of the United States, has NOT questioned Kerry's record. If there was something truly dishonorable there Bush would have used it. That's where you are the idiot, Bubbles. Bush won't attack Kerry's military record because he is the Commander in Chief, and it does not portend well for the highest ranking officer in the US military to upend servicemen for discrepancies in their service records. Have you even once heard Bush berate an individual soldier for anything? I've heard nothing but praise from him for the troops, past and present. That is perhaps one of the greatest reasons why Bush would be a far superior CiC compared with Kerry, who has been uniformly disrespectful of other servicemen, virtually from the time he set foot back in the US after his "tour of duty" in Vietnam. Max |
"Jonathan Ganz" wrote in message Once again, Bush has let his attack dogs out. Karl Rove was a protege of Lee At****er, who finally renounced his dirty tricks. Why won't Bush come clean about his National Guard service? Give it up, Loco. He can't defend his man, so he attacks Bush. Oddly enough this whole election is about that: either one is for Bush or against him. No one seems to give a **** about John Kerry. Max |
Bwahahahahahaha. Jon, you are so gullible.
WMD? WMD? Gullible???? Bwahhahaahhaha! Yeah, right! RB |
Let me assure you that having a clearance and having access to data are two
seperate things. They all had access to the data. That's what I was saying. S/V Express 30 "Ringmaster" "Trains are a winter sport" |
Was there any sailing in the movie?
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Bwahahahaah... you're an idiot.
-- "j" ganz @@ www.sailnow.com "Maxprop" wrote in message ink.net... "Jonathan Ganz" wrote in message Every thing that is relevent is in the public domain. Bwahahahahahaha. Jon, you are so gullible. Max |
This is what Bush has been doing since day one. He started with Ann
Richards, moved on to McCain and Max Cleland, now it's on to Kerry. -- "j" ganz @@ www.sailnow.com "Maxprop" wrote in message ink.net... "Jonathan Ganz" wrote in message Once again, Bush has let his attack dogs out. Karl Rove was a protege of Lee At****er, who finally renounced his dirty tricks. Why won't Bush come clean about his National Guard service? Give it up, Loco. He can't defend his man, so he attacks Bush. Oddly enough this whole election is about that: either one is for Bush or against him. No one seems to give a **** about John Kerry. Max |
He can't because there's nothing to attack. His attack dogs do it for him.
-- "j" ganz @@ www.sailnow.com "Maxprop" wrote in message ink.net... "Bobsprit" wrote in message Bush, the president of the United States, has NOT questioned Kerry's record. If there was something truly dishonorable there Bush would have used it. That's where you are the idiot, Bubbles. Bush won't attack Kerry's military record because he is the Commander in Chief, and it does not portend well for the highest ranking officer in the US military to upend servicemen for discrepancies in their service records. Have you even once heard Bush berate an individual soldier for anything? I've heard nothing but praise from him for the troops, past and present. That is perhaps one of the greatest reasons why Bush would be a far superior CiC compared with Kerry, who has been uniformly disrespectful of other servicemen, virtually from the time he set foot back in the US after his "tour of duty" in Vietnam. Max |
Hmmmm.... stoopid. Thanks for clarifying.
-- "j" ganz @@ www.sailnow.com "Maxprop" wrote in message ink.net... "Jonathan Ganz" wrote in message And, you're a great speller! Hmmm. Pot. Kettle. Black. Max |
On Mon, 25 Oct 2004 09:23:27 -0700, "Jonathan Ganz"
wrote this crap: Once again, Bush has let his attack dogs out. Karl Rove was a protege of Lee At****er, who finally renounced his dirty tricks. Why won't Bush come clean about his National Guard service? Why doesn't Kerry come clean about his records? Pathetic Earthlings! No one can save you now! |
"Maxprop" wrote
Give it up, Loco. He can't defend his man, so he attacks Bush. Oddly enough this whole election is about that: either one is for Bush or against him. No one seems to give a **** about John Kerry. Gee Max, glad you finally woke up! I don't know a soul who actually LIKES Kerry but enough of us are sick enough of Bush to elect Kerry despite that. That's why attacking Kerry never gets Bush any votes. I wish the Democrats had put up almost anybody except Kerry but that's immaterial. If we care for America, we gotta get rid of Bush before he destroys her! |
Why doesn't Bush tell us why he didn't show up for his physical?
-- "j" ganz @@ www.sailnow.com "Horvath" wrote in message ... bs deleted |
Horvath wrote in message
Why doesn't Kerry come clean about his records? He has something to hide. Joe Pathetic Earthlings! No one can save you now! |
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Joe wrote: Horvath wrote in message Why doesn't Bush come clean about his records? He has something to hide. Joe Pathetic Earthlings! No one can save you now! -- Jonathan Ganz (j gan z @ $ail no w.c=o=m) http://www.sailnow.com "If there's no wind, row." |
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Horvath wrote: The president of the USA starts a war based on weapons that don't exist and these morons don't even SUSPECT that they might have been lied to? They don't second guess it? No bells go off, no lights come on? Anyone with half a brain would be very uncertain, but not Loco! Not Horvath! Kerry said he would have done the same thing. Except that BushCo apparently used uncorroborated intelligence information. For example, Powell quoted British Intelligence during his UN testimony, but it turns out the original report was written by a grad student in Monterey. BushCo LIED. -- Jonathan Ganz (j gan z @ $ail no w.c=o=m) http://www.sailnow.com "If there's no wind, row." |
On 26 Oct 2004 17:06:45 -0700, (Jonathan
Ganz) wrote this crap: In article , Horvath wrote: The president of the USA starts a war based on weapons that don't exist and these morons don't even SUSPECT that they might have been lied to? They don't second guess it? No bells go off, no lights come on? Anyone with half a brain would be very uncertain, but not Loco! Not Horvath! Kerry said he would have done the same thing. Except that BushCo apparently used uncorroborated intelligence information. For example, Powell quoted British Intelligence during his UN testimony, but it turns out the original report was written by a grad student in Monterey. Is that the same intelligence that Clinton and Kerry had? Pathetic Earthlings! No one can save you now! |
OzOne wrote in message On Tue, 26 Oct 2004 00:58:32 GMT, "Maxprop" scribbled thusly: That is perhaps one of the greatest reasons why Bush would be a far superior CiC compared with Kerry, who has been uniformly disrespectful of other servicemen, virtually from the time he set foot back in the US after his "tour of duty" in Vietnam. Max No Max, he was critical of a Govt that placed it's military in a situation where they were ordered to use methods that guaranteed extremely high civilian casualties and praised those who killed the most. Wrong. He impugned the troops for purported atrocities (Winter Soldier), some of which were accurate, many of which weren't. You are correct in that he maligned the military hierarchy and the government for the methods you describe, but he also maligned the troops themselves, and that is not something one who wishes to be CiC should ever do. Question: what percentage of the personnel in the US military will respect Commander in Chief Kerry? Clinton was despised by over 90% of them; Kerry will be equally despised, or moreso. Max |
"Jonathan Ganz" wrote in message He can't because there's nothing to attack. His attack dogs do it for him. Do you mean that 527 group Bush said should be outlawed? Max |
"Vito" wrote in message Gee Max, glad you finally woke up! I don't know a soul who actually LIKES Kerry but enough of us are sick enough of Bush to elect Kerry despite that. Thank God the Grand Klaxon of the KKK isn't running against Bush. I wish the Democrats had put up almost anybody except Kerry but that's immaterial. If we care for America, we gotta get rid of Bush before he destroys her! Right. Let Kerry do it for ya. Max |
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Horvath wrote: Is that the same intelligence that Clinton and Kerry had? No. It's the same intelligence that you lack. -- Jonathan Ganz (j gan z @ $ail no w.c=o=m) http://www.sailnow.com "If there's no wind, row." |
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Maxprop wrote: Wrong. He impugned the troops for purported atrocities (Winter Soldier), some of which were accurate, many of which weren't. You are correct in that he maligned the military hierarchy and the government for the methods you describe, but he also maligned the troops themselves, and that is not something one who wishes to be CiC should ever do. He repeated what he had been told. No, he didn't malign the troops. Question: what percentage of the personnel in the US military will respect Commander in Chief Kerry? Clinton was despised by over 90% of them; Kerry will be equally despised, or moreso. Clinton was not dispised by 90% or anything close to that. That's pure RNC bull****. -- Jonathan Ganz (j gan z @ $ail no w.c=o=m) http://www.sailnow.com "If there's no wind, row." |
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Maxprop wrote: "Jonathan Ganz" wrote in message He can't because there's nothing to attack. His attack dogs do it for him. Do you mean that 527 group Bush said should be outlawed? The Swift Boat Liars for one, yes. Who's main spokesman is a shill for Karl (Achtung) Rove. -- Jonathan Ganz (j gan z @ $ail no w.c=o=m) http://www.sailnow.com "If there's no wind, row." |
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