| Page 1 of 2 | 1 | 2 |
|
|
We breed em tough here in Oz
Never underestimate the power of a grandmother....
OzOne wrote in message ... http://tinyurl.com/5qzsl A 60-YEAR-OLD grandmother has been hailed a hero after she took on a 4m, 300kg crocodile to save a friend and his family during an horrific attack. Oz1...of the 3 twins. I welcome you to crackerbox palace,We've been expecting you. |
In article , OzOne wrote:
http://tinyurl.com/5qzsl A 60-YEAR-OLD grandmother has been hailed a hero after she took on a 4m, 300kg crocodile to save a friend and his family during an horrific attack. She's a wimp. She wouldn't survive 10 minutes on this ng. -- Jonathan Ganz (j gan z @ $ail no w.c=o=m) http://www.sailnow.com "If there's no wind, row." |
"katysails" wrote in message ...
Never underestimate the power of a grandmother.... Must be crocidile Dundys mum eh. Your alwful quiet lately Katy. Joe OzOne wrote in message ... http://tinyurl.com/5qzsl A 60-YEAR-OLD grandmother has been hailed a hero after she took on a 4m, 300kg crocodile to save a friend and his family during an horrific attack. Oz1...of the 3 twins. I welcome you to crackerbox palace,We've been expecting you. |
Great story. I would never camp close to a beach or a river in the North
-those salties scare the hell out of me! Cheers OzOne wrote: http://tinyurl.com/5qzsl A 60-YEAR-OLD grandmother has been hailed a hero after she took on a 4m, 300kg crocodile to save a friend and his family during an horrific attack. Oz1...of the 3 twins. I welcome you to crackerbox palace,We've been expecting you. |
Oz... it seems to me like the general trend is to blame the animal for the
attack ... when in reality it is usually the people with no comprehension of the world they inhabit that are to blame. I don't hold much respect for 4x4 campers and even less for people that can be so easily undone by a predator with the brain of a chook. It's time people learned that ability to access does in no way guarantee safety. They should have been fined for killing the Salty and fined again for gross stupidity. No bravery was displayed here.... Idiocy was displayed! That Croc could have been subdued in seconds by someone with an iota of comprehension of their habitat, trigger systems and physical abilities.... without a gun. There was no reason for the attack if the "victim" had even the base understanding of what makes a Crocodile act/react. We have idiots up here who lament bear attacks... bears don't attack without reason. Yet every year idiots fall prey to them. Good Riddance! I'm all for the bears! I'm also all for the Crocs...and the Sharks! I would have preferred to see the lot eaten by the Croc... I will nonetheless concede.... that the actions of the Lady was courageous... even though the initiation of the attack rests squarely on their own shoulders. What a totally ridiculous situation and an unnecessary lost of life.... for the Croc. Ban the human Idiots.... why did they have a gun to begin with?? don't you folks have laws against such things? Only Cowards and Idiots need guns to defend themselves.... especially in the Bush! CM OzOne wrote in message ... On Wed, 13 Oct 2004 10:20:42 +1300, Nav scribbled thusly: Great story. I would never camp close to a beach or a river in the North -those salties scare the hell out of me! Cheers This was apparently the first instance where a croc had wandered so far without anything to draw it in. Apparently the people did all the right things, food etc up the other end of the beach an all the rest. Rangers are at a loss to explain just why the thing went as far as it did up where they were camped. Oz1...of the 3 twins. I welcome you to crackerbox palace,We've been expecting you. |
Capt. Mooron wrote: That Croc could have been subdued in seconds by someone with an iota of comprehension of their habitat, trigger systems and physical abilities.... without a gun. There was no reason for the attack if the "victim" had even the base understanding of what makes a Crocodile act/react. Have you ever seen a salty up close? Let me guess you'd discuss it with him as he's dragging "lunch" back to the water?? You NIT. Cheers |
"Nav" wrote in message ... Have you ever seen a salty up close? Let me guess you'd discuss it with him as he's dragging "lunch" back to the water?? You NIT. Dragging??? What no "Death Roll"??? It let go when a 60 year old granny jumps it?? Pardon my french but.... **** OFF! Face it Nav... they have a set of jaws... are in their element in the water. This Croc was on dry land! Burst speed is maybe 20kph for about 20 meters. Get a grip and remove the base fear from your reaction. The croc is severely limited in it's ability to attack a land based mammal that can sprint to 18 kph over a hundred meters in seconds.... never mind comprehend it's surroundings beyond base instinct!! It's hunting food... man is not the natural prey. Something attracted it..... that aspect seems to be lacking! It's a lot like the Bear Attack I heard about a few years ago... everyone blamed the bear as a killer... it was after a detailed investigation they found out the small dog they had with them had gone out... found the bear... angered it and then ran back home into the tent.... you can guess what happened when a 1200lb angry Grizzly runs into a tent of sleeping campers! Live with your unreasoned fear if you must.... but don't blame the animal for human idiocy! It sounds a lot like a "Victim" statement! Your reasoning is disgusting in it's abject ignorance! I expected better from you... CM |
That's nothing. In fact, here in America it's a common roadside attraction:
http://fcit.usf.edu/florida/photos/a...stl/wrestl.htm OzOne wrote in message ... http://tinyurl.com/5qzsl A 60-YEAR-OLD grandmother has been hailed a hero after she took on a 4m, 300kg crocodile to save a friend and his family during an horrific attack. Oz1...of the 3 twins. I welcome you to crackerbox palace,We've been expecting you. |
http://www.cq.com/corp/show.do?page=...41012_homeland
"katysails" wrote in message ... Never underestimate the power of a grandmother.... OzOne wrote in message ... http://tinyurl.com/5qzsl A 60-YEAR-OLD grandmother has been hailed a hero after she took on a 4m, 300kg crocodile to save a friend and his family during an horrific attack. Oz1...of the 3 twins. I welcome you to crackerbox palace,We've been expecting you. |
In article et,
Gilligan wrote: http://www.cq.com/corp/show.do?page=...41012_homeland Gilly, I think we can solve this shortage in short order. All we need to do is get Joe, Dave, and Horass to volunter their time. -- Jonathan Ganz (j gan z @ $ail no w.c=o=m) http://www.sailnow.com "If there's no wind, row." |
Not a whole lot going on here with all the political mumbo-jumbo and BS
baiting.....and my co-conspirator's in crime, Teddy and Haggier, are also silent. Maybe the nag will get back to its' usually audacious self after the elections. "Joe" wrote in message om... "katysails" wrote in message ... Never underestimate the power of a grandmother.... Must be crocidile Dundys mum eh. Your alwful quiet lately Katy. Joe OzOne wrote in message ... http://tinyurl.com/5qzsl A 60-YEAR-OLD grandmother has been hailed a hero after she took on a 4m, 300kg crocodile to save a friend and his family during an horrific attack. Oz1...of the 3 twins. I welcome you to crackerbox palace,We've been expecting you. |
Mooron the man was asleep in his tent when the croc grabbed him and was
dragging him back to the water. The death roll is not carried out in these circumastances. You really should not underestimate the pulling power of a 300kg croc. I can just see it now, you with your legs in it jaws trying to hold onto sand to stop being pulled into the water all the while arguing with it that it's not playing by your rules. The very brave granny jumped on it's back to slow it's progress to the water while a gun was being fetched to stop it. Get real man! These salties are really dangerous. You ARE lunch -if they can sneak up on you and there's not a damn thing you can do if they've got hold of you -unless you happen to have a weapon to hand. Cheers Capt. Mooron wrote: "Nav" wrote in message ... Have you ever seen a salty up close? Let me guess you'd discuss it with him as he's dragging "lunch" back to the water?? You NIT. Dragging??? What no "Death Roll"??? It let go when a 60 year old granny jumps it?? Pardon my french but.... **** OFF! Face it Nav... they have a set of jaws... are in their element in the water. This Croc was on dry land! Burst speed is maybe 20kph for about 20 meters. Get a grip and remove the base fear from your reaction. The croc is severely limited in it's ability to attack a land based mammal that can sprint to 18 kph over a hundred meters in seconds.... never mind comprehend it's surroundings beyond base instinct!! It's hunting food... man is not the natural prey. Something attracted it..... that aspect seems to be lacking! It's a lot like the Bear Attack I heard about a few years ago... everyone blamed the bear as a killer... it was after a detailed investigation they found out the small dog they had with them had gone out... found the bear... angered it and then ran back home into the tent.... you can guess what happened when a 1200lb angry Grizzly runs into a tent of sleeping campers! Live with your unreasoned fear if you must.... but don't blame the animal for human idiocy! It sounds a lot like a "Victim" statement! Your reasoning is disgusting in it's abject ignorance! I expected better from you... CM |
So you're implying that I should leave the FM's alone so they can do their
patriotic duty and volunteer for the vaccine program??? I don't think so....Nice try, though, appealing to my humanity....too bad they're not human.... "Gilligan" wrote in message nk.net... http://www.cq.com/corp/show.do?page=...41012_homeland "katysails" wrote in message ... Never underestimate the power of a grandmother.... OzOne wrote in message ... http://tinyurl.com/5qzsl A 60-YEAR-OLD grandmother has been hailed a hero after she took on a 4m, 300kg crocodile to save a friend and his family during an horrific attack. Oz1...of the 3 twins. I welcome you to crackerbox palace,We've been expecting you. |
"Nav" wrote in message ... Mooron the man was asleep in his tent when the croc grabbed him and was dragging him back to the water. The death roll is not carried out in these circumastances. You really should not underestimate the pulling power of a 300kg croc. I can just see it now, you with your legs in it jaws trying to hold onto sand to stop being pulled into the water all the while arguing with it that it's not playing by your rules. Nav... leave your emotional fears of dangerous animals behind and attempt to logically deduce what might have occured.... the man was in a friggin' tent Nav.... how much nylon can a croc ingest??? You expect me to believe this croc undid the zipper and picked out the plumpest legs??? Think Nav... 10 square meters of non rip nylon that would have carried the entire weight of everyone in the tent plus entanglement factors. No way Bubba. The campers panicked out of fear of the same stories you want to subject us to.... it won't wash with me. I've seen entirely way too many big predators up close to understand that a reason is required to intiate an attack. Hunger don't cut it all the time. Opportunity always will. Crocs aren't some sort of super predator ... if they were the US forces would be utilizing them. There are lots of animals on this planet much more dangerous than a Salty. You are sounding like an American... believing your own propoganda! I've been 10 feet from a Polar Bear, meters from a Grizzly.... dove with sharks.... big deal. I wasn't prey nor presented myself as such. I was with my Dad in the Congo when he killed a 20 foot Croc that had eaten several villagers.[ Ciraca 1959] I was only 4 years old but remember his words.... loosely transalted from Lingala .." no hard feelings my friend" prior to a ..500 Nitro Express shot to the head. That son of a bitch cut a swath across the river in a death run so violent it sent wakes to both shores. I remember that clearly! I know the power Nav.... I also know they are opportunistic hunters and ambush predators.... my Dad made certain I understood and respected all animals.... especially those I intended to hunt. He has 21 elephants, 12 Lions, 8 Leopards and 6 Crocs plus numerous other kills to his credit. I was always taught that I was the Apex Predator... as such I should show respect and understand the behaviour of the animals I encountered. You seem to live your life in unreasoned fear of somthing you do not understand... that makes you weak in my eyes. So be it..... be afraid. It will certainly overshadow any abilty to respect such a fine animal as a Salty. Idiot Humans... we have a plethora of.... let the Crocs eat away I say! CM |
OzOne wrote in message Ahh, now I know you're trolling...or totally ignorant. Explain then Oz how a Croc of any size undid a tent zipper and dragged a man out by the legs? Seriously!?? How did that happen? this isn't a friggin jungle cat ..... it's a croc! I think it's you showing your ignorance of the Salty. They are a wonderful predator. Of course they are Oz... in their element. I doubt they were equipped through eons of evolution to deal with campers in a friggin tent!! Do you understand the term "Ambush Predator"???? These reptiles lack the ability to stalk their prey Oz!! That's a fact! Something these people did attracted this Croc to their location.... that is for certain! They should be fined for the damage they did! CM |
OzOne wrote in message ... Why, because they followed all the procedures for camping in an area where crocs are present. ie a long way from the water, no food, no fishing gear eyc etc. This is the first recorded instance of a croc travelling as far as it did to attack anyone let alone a sleeping camper. You are making assumptions... there was nothing in the article to substantiate this. Ummm the victim was asleep. Not according to the article Oz.... he was awakened by a bump on the tent. Not something I'd like to see, especially after the croc followed his usual method of stuffing his prey under an underwater log for a few weeks to tenderise it before comsumption. What does it matter after you are dead? The camper was asleep and followed all guidelines. What guidelines? It stated nothing as such in the article. You probably should come out to Australia. There are many places where guns are almost essential as a survival tool. We see no need for guns in the cities. You probably should come to the Northern reaches of Canada.... we have way more wild open spaces than you folks do. Many more Predators and if you list Pigs and Crocs as your Apex Predator... well Oz.. really.... you should come up this way! I'll show you predators. I often travel deep in the bush without a gun. Then again I don't always need a gun to take down my food. Oh, OK, maybe next time you're out here and a 200kg ferral pig decides to charge you without warninng, and without you even knowing he was there, you might change your mind. Those tusks will tear open a human like a letter opener does a letter. Oh Yeah... gotta watch out for those Feral Pigs..... jeeez... come on Oz.... those things are hard enough to see let alone encounter. How many people in your country have been killed by a feral pig Oz?? No Really.... How many? You think you are the only country with Feral Pigs ????? Samoa has Feral Pigs Oz.. I lived there and hunted them.... it's a friggin PIG! Get a Grip! They are PREY! They do actively prey on tubers and roots Oz!!! It's not like they are stalking you... maybe defending themselves.. sure.. but killing?? PLEASE!! Spare Me! What's next.. Rabid Koalas??? Even your poisonous snakes are laid back! Watch those Kookaburras... they'll peck out your eyes! Oh yeah.. those Dingos.... bad dog, down boy! Sheesh! CM |
try arizona jackalopes
and than tell me what you think. gf. "Capt. Mooron" wrote in message ... .... it's a friggin PIG! Get a Grip! They are PREY! They do actively prey on tubers and roots Oz!!! It's not like they are stalking you... maybe defending themselves.. sure.. but killing?? PLEASE!! Spare Me! What's next.. Rabid Koalas??? Even your poisonous snakes are laid back! Watch those Kookaburras... they'll peck out your eyes! Oh yeah.. those Dingos.... bad dog, down boy! Sheesh! CM |
On Wed, 13 Oct 2004 10:20:42 +1300, Nav wrote:
Great story. I would never camp close to a beach or a river in the North -those salties scare the hell out of me! There was another recent attack where a saltie treed a couple of young men. It kept them in the tree for most of the night. I was rather surprised to read that, and this story, as I always thought crocs were ambush predators, not active predators. Something about being eaten, just isn't a nice way to go. |
In article ,
Horvath wrote: On 12 Oct 2004 10:16:56 -0700, (Jonathan Ganz) wrote this crap: In article , OzOne wrote: http://tinyurl.com/5qzsl A 60-YEAR-OLD grandmother has been hailed a hero after she took on a 4m, 300kg crocodile to save a friend and his family during an horrific attack. Horass is a wimp. She wouldn't survive 10 minutes on this ng. She'd probably swat me with my own purse. Pathetic Earthlings! No one can save you now! -- Jonathan Ganz (j gan z @ $ail no w.c=o=m) http://www.sailnow.com "If there's no wind, row." |
I'd suggest that if you dropped him in the far North with no weapon Mr
Testosterone here would be ****ing himself with fear in a day. In his closeted safe enviroment (with no real predators) he has no idea what the worst of Oz is like. He probably wouldn't recognise half the predators. Cheers OzOne wrote: On Tue, 12 Oct 2004 23:05:09 GMT, "Capt. Mooron" scribbled thusly: Oz... it seems to me like the general trend is to blame the animal for the attack ... when in reality it is usually the people with no comprehension of the world they inhabit that are to blame. Yep that's true in many cases. I don't hold much respect for 4x4 campers and even less for people that can be so easily undone by a predator with the brain of a chook. Hmmm, interesting that you'd think that. It's time people learned that ability to access does in no way guarantee safety. They should have been fined for killing the Salty and fined again for gross stupidity. Why, because they followed all the procedures for camping in an area where crocs are present. ie a long way from the water, no food, no fishing gear eyc etc. This is the first recorded instance of a croc travelling as far as it did to attack anyone let alone a sleeping camper. No bravery was displayed here.... Idiocy was displayed! That Croc could have been subdued in seconds by someone with an iota of comprehension of their habitat, trigger systems and physical abilities.... without a gun. There was no reason for the attack if the "victim" had even the base understanding of what makes a Crocodile act/react. Ummm the victim was asleep. We have idiots up here who lament bear attacks... bears don't attack without reason. Yet every year idiots fall prey to them. Good Riddance! I'm all for the bears! I'm also all for the Crocs...and the Sharks! I would have preferred to see the lot eaten by the Croc... Not something I'd like to see, especially after the croc followed his usual method of stuffing his prey under an underwater log for a few weeks to tenderise it before comsumption. I will nonetheless concede.... that the actions of the Lady was courageous... even though the initiation of the attack rests squarely on their own shoulders. The camper was asleep and followed all guidelines. What a totally ridiculous situation and an unnecessary lost of life.... for the Croc. Ban the human Idiots.... why did they have a gun to begin with?? don't you folks have laws against such things? You probably should come out to Australia. There are many places where guns are almost essential as a survival tool. We see no need for guns in the cities. Only Cowards and Idiots need guns to defend themselves.... especially in the Bush! Oh, OK, maybe next time you're out here and a 200kg ferral pig decides to charge you without warninng, and without you even knowing he was there, you might change your mind. Those tusks will tear open a human like a letter opener does a letter. CM OzOne wrote in message ... On Wed, 13 Oct 2004 10:20:42 +1300, Nav scribbled thusly: Great story. I would never camp close to a beach or a river in the North -those salties scare the hell out of me! Cheers This was apparently the first instance where a croc had wandered so far without anything to draw it in. Apparently the people did all the right things, food etc up the other end of the beach an all the rest. Rangers are at a loss to explain just why the thing went as far as it did up where they were camped. Oz1...of the 3 twins. I welcome you to crackerbox palace,We've been expecting you. Oz1...of the 3 twins. I welcome you to crackerbox palace,We've been expecting you. |
Why would it leave, it knew where "lunch" was?
Cheers thunder wrote: On Wed, 13 Oct 2004 10:20:42 +1300, Nav wrote: Great story. I would never camp close to a beach or a river in the North -those salties scare the hell out of me! There was another recent attack where a saltie treed a couple of young men. It kept them in the tree for most of the night. I was rather surprised to read that, and this story, as I always thought crocs were ambush predators, not active predators. Something about being eaten, just isn't a nice way to go. |
Ya know, sometimes Mooron, you sound just like my 8 year old grandson...but
8 year olds are often forgiven their braggadocio and their delusions..... "Capt. Mooron" wrote in message ... "Nav" wrote in message ... Mooron the man was asleep in his tent when the croc grabbed him and was dragging him back to the water. The death roll is not carried out in these circumastances. You really should not underestimate the pulling power of a 300kg croc. I can just see it now, you with your legs in it jaws trying to hold onto sand to stop being pulled into the water all the while arguing with it that it's not playing by your rules. Nav... leave your emotional fears of dangerous animals behind and attempt to logically deduce what might have occured.... the man was in a friggin' tent Nav.... how much nylon can a croc ingest??? You expect me to believe this croc undid the zipper and picked out the plumpest legs??? Think Nav... 10 square meters of non rip nylon that would have carried the entire weight of everyone in the tent plus entanglement factors. No way Bubba. The campers panicked out of fear of the same stories you want to subject us to.... it won't wash with me. I've seen entirely way too many big predators up close to understand that a reason is required to intiate an attack. Hunger don't cut it all the time. Opportunity always will. Crocs aren't some sort of super predator ... if they were the US forces would be utilizing them. There are lots of animals on this planet much more dangerous than a Salty. You are sounding like an American... believing your own propoganda! I've been 10 feet from a Polar Bear, meters from a Grizzly.... dove with sharks.... big deal. I wasn't prey nor presented myself as such. I was with my Dad in the Congo when he killed a 20 foot Croc that had eaten several villagers.[ Ciraca 1959] I was only 4 years old but remember his words.... loosely transalted from Lingala .." no hard feelings my friend" prior to a .500 Nitro Express shot to the head. That son of a bitch cut a swath across the river in a death run so violent it sent wakes to both shores. I remember that clearly! I know the power Nav.... I also know they are opportunistic hunters and ambush predators.... my Dad made certain I understood and respected all animals.... especially those I intended to hunt. He has 21 elephants, 12 Lions, 8 Leopards and 6 Crocs plus numerous other kills to his credit. I was always taught that I was the Apex Predator... as such I should show respect and understand the behaviour of the animals I encountered. You seem to live your life in unreasoned fear of somthing you do not understand... that makes you weak in my eyes. So be it..... be afraid. It will certainly overshadow any abilty to respect such a fine animal as a Salty. Idiot Humans... we have a plethora of.... let the Crocs eat away I say! CM |
Capt. Mooron wrote: my Dad made certain I understood and respected all animals.... especially those I intended to hunt. He has 21 elephants, 12 Lions, 8 Leopards and 6 Crocs plus numerous other kills to his credit. I was always taught that I was the Apex Predator... as such I should show respect and understand the behaviour of the animals I encountered. Your mode of respect for animals is quite bizarre. I'd guess it would be be a sort of Neanderthal logic. Cheers |
OzOne wrote: On Wed, 13 Oct 2004 22:39:48 GMT, "katysails" scribbled thusly: Ya know, sometimes Mooron, you sound just like my 8 year old grandson...but 8 year olds are often forgiven their braggadocio and their delusions..... He reverts under the influence of copious amounts of alcohol. Or big girls! Cheers |
Nah...he writes that stuff when he's sober...he's a much better drunk...
OzOne wrote in message ... On Wed, 13 Oct 2004 22:39:48 GMT, "katysails" scribbled thusly: Ya know, sometimes Mooron, you sound just like my 8 year old grandson...but 8 year olds are often forgiven their braggadocio and their delusions..... He reverts under the influence of copious amounts of alcohol. Oz1...of the 3 twins. I welcome you to crackerbox palace,We've been expecting you. |
"Nav" wrote in message ... I'd suggest that if you dropped him in the far North with no weapon Mr Testosterone here would be ****ing himself with fear in a day. In his closeted safe enviroment (with no real predators) he has no idea what the worst of Oz is like. He probably wouldn't recognise half the predators. Crap... your "dingos" are 40lbs of scrawny mutt compared to our 125lb wolves Your Feral Pigs... heck you have a TV celebrity that wrestles them to the ground bare handed. Nav... they are PIGS!! I eat pigs. Oh Yeah the dangerous Wombat.... and the killer Roos!! Compare those to a 1500 lb Polar Bear, a Wolverine or even a Walrus! The Salty is your only claim to fame if you ignore your plentiful snakes. I don't carry a firearm when I survey.... I've surveyed in Resolute, Holman and Sachs Harbour to name 3 of over 20+ locations. Matter of fact... pick any spot north of the 60th and I've most likely been there. You have no idea of the predators up north... but I'd dare say that from my many conversations with a multitude of Aussies that work for BHP Bilton Diamond Mines in the NWT ... I have a very good idea of the wildlife in Australia. My favourite Aussie trick is the Australian Bagpipes! I'm certain you know that one. So Nav.... BITE ME! CM |
"Capt. Mooron" wrote in message ...
"Nav" wrote in message ... Have you ever seen a salty up close? Let me guess you'd discuss it with him as he's dragging "lunch" back to the water?? You NIT. Dragging??? What no "Death Roll"??? It let go when a 60 year old granny jumps it?? Pardon my french but.... **** OFF! Face it Nav... they have a set of jaws... are in their element in the water. This Croc was on dry land! Burst speed is maybe 20kph for about 20 meters. Get a grip and remove the base fear from your reaction. The croc is severely limited in it's ability to attack a land based mammal that can sprint to 18 kph over a hundred meters in seconds.... never mind comprehend it's surroundings beyond base instinct!! It's hunting food... man is not the natural prey. Got some bad news for you, CM. Man *is* natural prey for sal****er crocs. Back in the 'old' days, the aboriginals apparently used to do river crossings at a sprint. The logic was that the croc, if about, would nail one of the older, slower members. I agree with you about people in croc habitat needing to have a clue, but crocs will kill people for food. It's not like a bear raiding a tent for food & the occupant merely being in the way. PDW |
"katysails" wrote in message ... Ya know, sometimes Mooron, you sound just like my 8 year old grandson...but 8 year olds are often forgiven their braggadocio and their delusions..... Ya know Kitty... sometimes you just have no idea of what you are commenting on ... and in such instances you should just refrain from allowing your emotional reactions interfere with a subject matter you obviously don't have a clue about. I would trust your comments on sailing, pets and gardening and most other urban matters..... wilderness survival?... not a chance! CM |
"Capt. Mooron" wrote
..... The croc is severely limited in it's ability to attack a land based mammal that can sprint to 18 kph over a hundred meters in seconds.... never mind comprehend it's surroundings beyond base instinct!! It's hunting food... man is not the natural prey. Peter Wiley wrote: Got some bad news for you, CM. Man *is* natural prey for sal****er crocs. Back in the 'old' days, the aboriginals apparently used to do river crossings at a sprint. The logic was that the croc, if about, would nail one of the older, slower members. That's taking recycling a bit too far IMHO. I agree with you about people in croc habitat needing to have a clue, but crocs will kill people for food. It's not like a bear raiding a tent for food & the occupant merely being in the way. I've never seen one but never want to. Florida alligators can't compare. I've read accounts of the Australian sal****er croc grabbing people out of boats... heard of one case of one grabbing a person out of a stalled jeep... not fun. DSK |
Since we wilderness camped when I was a kid, in forest, not state parks, and
since I was a Girl Scout for 10 years with a troop that believed in doing it the right way, I can honestly say that you're nothing but a braggart blow hard when it comes to these things. My family still has Queen's lease on a number of acres 60 miles north of the Sault where we all spent summers roughing it. Bears were active visitors to the area. I spent half the night in a primitive outhouse with one snuffling around outside. You are not the only person on the world that has any experience. But you do have a big mouth and are becoming extremely boring with your childish diatribes. And emotionalism??? Have you read what you've written? makes Nora Roberts look like a year's worth of Presbyterian sermons.... "Overproof" wrote in message ... "katysails" wrote in message ... Ya know, sometimes Mooron, you sound just like my 8 year old grandson...but 8 year olds are often forgiven their braggadocio and their delusions..... Ya know Kitty... sometimes you just have no idea of what you are commenting on ... and in such instances you should just refrain from allowing your emotional reactions interfere with a subject matter you obviously don't have a clue about. I would trust your comments on sailing, pets and gardening and most other urban matters..... wilderness survival?... not a chance! CM |
|
OzOne wrote
http://tinyurl.com/5qzsl A 60-YEAR-OLD grandmother has been hailed a hero after she took on a 4m, 300kg crocodile to save a friend and his family during an horrific attack. Kudos to Gran but why didn't the wife simply draw her .44 Magnum and dispatch the beast? Oh! That's right. Croc's are protected, right? |
"Capt. Mooron" wrote
Only Cowards and Idiots need guns to defend themselves.... especially in the Bush! Easy to say that now that our ancestors have made "the Bush" so safe. OTOH an ancestor of mine did walk from San Diego to Illinois via the Great Salt Lake unarmed circa 1850, when that was still frontier. Can't say he enjoyed it much. |
"Capt. Mooron" wrote
..... Something attracted it..... Perhaps the man's feet smelled bad ... |
OzOne wrote:
They are pretty awesome. The surprising part is how fast they move on land. It lookesto me like they push forward with their tail, so the whole front of their body is airborne. Yes, they have tremendous ability to leap, lunge, and can hit the ground running to sprint for short distances. They exceed alligators in this ability by a lot and apparently also have better eyesight and a wider range of prey. I used to putter around a lot in north-eastern Florida in the creeks and swamps, got used to being around alligators. They don't bother you if you're in a small boat or even a canoe... OTOH it sounds to me like you do *not* hang around sal****er crocs. We went on an eco-tour some years back that included Komodo Island, seeing the huge monitor lizards. They are awesome. But they also only go after certain types of prey under certain conditions... we were always accompanied by at least two rangers. The dragons seemed to barely notice us... although when my wife crouched down to take a picture of one from a low angle, the dragon (about 15 feet away) definitely took notice and started toward her. They also reacted to goat imitations... the rangers did this, not me! They thought it was funny. Anyway, what I was going to say is that the sal****er croc range extends both sides of Komodo & Rincha, where the giant monitors live. I wonder how much their habitats overlap, we were told that the dragons cannot compete against other predators. Regards Doug King |
Overproof wrote: "Nav" wrote in message ... I'd suggest that if you dropped him in the far North with no weapon Mr Testosterone here would be ****ing himself with fear in a day. In his closeted safe enviroment (with no real predators) he has no idea what the worst of Oz is like. He probably wouldn't recognise half the predators. Crap... your "dingos" are 40lbs of scrawny mutt compared to our 125lb wolves Your Feral Pigs... heck you have a TV celebrity that wrestles them to the ground bare handed. Nav... they are PIGS!! I eat pigs. Oh Yeah the dangerous Wombat.... and the killer Roos!! Compare those to a 1500 lb Polar Bear, a Wolverine or even a Walrus! The Salty is your only claim to fame if you ignore your plentiful snakes. I don't carry a firearm when I survey.... I've surveyed in Resolute, Holman and Sachs Harbour to name 3 of over 20+ locations. Matter of fact... pick any spot north of the 60th and I've most likely been there. You have no idea of the predators up north... but I'd dare say that from my many conversations with a multitude of Aussies that work for BHP Bilton Diamond Mines in the NWT ... I have a very good idea of the wildlife in Australia. My favourite Aussie trick is the Australian Bagpipes! I'm certain you know that one. So Nav.... BITE ME! Hey, don't you start with that homo stuff. Cheers |
"Nav" wrote in message ... Overproof wrote: So Nav.... BITE ME! Hey, don't you start with that homo stuff. Aw CRAP!!! Look here.... I went out of my way to start a good scrap!! I loaded the replies with enough ammo to allow even Bush a success!! What do I get??? ..... 2 or 3 half hearted tugs on the line and a really ****ed off KittyFish! I made an effort to raise your blood pressure ...with obviously little effect! In the good old days you guys would have used those openings to raise your status at my expense! Now-a-days..... you all fold faster than superman on laundry day!! A Kittyfish??? a paltry Kittyfish??? If that's the only thing in this left in this pond with any venom... I need to redirect my energy. Later Capt. Mooron |
In article gLDbd.3980$_u6.2386@edtnps89,
Overproof wrote: A Kittyfish??? a paltry Kittyfish??? If that's the only thing in this left in this pond with any venom... I need to redirect my energy. Maybe you're slipping... -- Jonathan Ganz (j gan z @ $ail no w.c=o=m) http://www.sailnow.com "If there's no wind, row." |
DSK wrote in message et...
"Capt. Mooron" wrote ..... The croc is severely limited in it's ability to attack a land based mammal that can sprint to 18 kph over a hundred meters in seconds.... never mind comprehend it's surroundings beyond base instinct!! It's hunting food... man is not the natural prey. Peter Wiley wrote: Got some bad news for you, CM. Man *is* natural prey for sal****er crocs. Back in the 'old' days, the aboriginals apparently used to do river crossings at a sprint. The logic was that the croc, if about, would nail one of the older, slower members. That's taking recycling a bit too far IMHO. Shrug. Don't know if it's true, but the people did have to cross the rivers and the crocs did lie in wait for prey. A 12' sal****er croc is immune to any primitive weapon I can think of, offhand. IIRC the biggest salty recorded is about 18'. Supposed to get over 20' but no official measurement AFAIK. Thing is, their girth & weight starts going up disproportionately with length once they're over around 10', I think. I've never seen one but never want to. Florida alligators can't compare. I've read accounts of the Australian sal****er croc grabbing people out of boats... heard of one case of one grabbing a person out of a stalled jeep... not fun. They've grabbed outboards off boats. Big crocs are territorial. They're dangerous in their habitat. Whether this particular story is light on fact or not doesn't really matter. PDW |
| All times are GMT +1. The time now is 05:04 PM. |
|
Powered by vBulletin® Copyright ©2000 - 2025, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Copyright ©2004 - 2014 BoatBanter.com