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Bobspirt wrote: I didn't bother to check the headers... oh well, I wish the sockpuppets would go away. Pretty stupid, juvey behavior. BRBR Who cares who wrote it. Its a legit question, and you took the time to answer it. How come you also don't seem to get a straight answer about dockage? No marinas seem to want them. And what about parts and repairs? Need special travel lifts and two of everything to maintain. It matters because sockpuppets who aren't funny are stupid. Dockage isn't usually an issue out here nor anywhere I've been. What special parts??? duplicate anchors??? travel lifts are an issue, but you can also beach them pretty easily. -- Jonathan Ganz (j gan z @ $ail no w.c=o=m) http://www.sailnow.com "If there's no wind, row." |
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2 engines, 2 heads, 2 hulls worth of hatches, deck fittings, deck seams, etc.,
2 steering systems . . . Is the rule that sockpuppets have to be funny a new one? Now, that Gunboat might make you forget about all that. |
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"Bobspirt" wrote in message ... I didn't bother to check the headers... oh well, I wish the sockpuppets would go away. Pretty stupid, juvey behavior. BRBR Who cares who wrote it. Its a legit question, and you took the time to answer it. How come you also don't seem to get a straight answer about dockage? No marinas seem to want them. I said home dockage can be a problem. However, transient space is not. And what about parts and repairs? Need special travel lifts and two of everything to maintain. What "two of everything"? Yes there are often two identical engines. A bit more work at oil change time. But twin engines is the ultimate backup. The rigging, on the other hand, is smaller because you're not dragging around 3 tons of lead. Yes I need a larger lift than most, but I can beach the boat to clean the bottom or change props. |
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"Bobspirt" wrote in message ... 2 engines, some have only one engine. Two engines is an advantage more often than not. 2 heads, the shows you're not really a sailor. Many medium size, and most larger monohulls have two heads. My cat, and most under 40 feet have one head. 2 hulls worth of hatches, now you're complaining they too much ventilation. This proves you're not a sailor. deck fittings, ???? Too many cleats???? Have you ever been on a boat? deck seams, etc., 2 steering systems . . . You mean having a spare rudder is a problem? BTW, an number of new monohulls have two rudders. Is the rule that sockpuppets have to be funny a new one? Now, that Gunboat might make you forget about all that. |
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Well, Jeff, anyone can say having two of everything is an advantage because of
the redundancy factor, but then why not have 3 of everything. This is exactly the sort of spin-like answer you get from multi-hullers, and the reason for the original post. All talk from multi-hullers is defensive of their choice (or, in your case, ad hominem attacks - you've been on ASA too long), rather than an honest discussion of the pro's and con's. Even Chris White's book is pure advocacy. It's too bad, because some folks out there are just looking for the straight poop. Happy sailing to you. |
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You call that an "ad hominem" attack? You started your post implying all
catamaran owners are liars! Ask a serious question and I'll give a serious answer. Complain about extra hatches and I'll call you a fool. And using a forged sig marks you as scum of the earth, so you aren't owed any respect at all. I question your understanding of modern boats. While its true that larger cats geared towards the charter business have 2, or sometimes even more heads, the same is true for monohulls. At the last two boatshows I went to last month (Newport and Boston) I went on board most of the 40 footers; they all had two heads. Complaining that some cats have two heads is a reflection of your experience. Complaining about "two deck seams" means you haven't even thought about the basic geometry - while there may be some extra "seamage" given the LOA, its less usually less than a multihull of the same "area on deck" I would concede that multihulls often require some serious engineering and modern materials, but that explains why the modern cruising cat has only been developed in the last 15 or 20 years. "Bobspirt" wrote in message ... Well, Jeff, anyone can say having two of everything is an advantage because of the redundancy factor, but then why not have 3 of everything. This is exactly the sort of spin-like answer you get from multi-hullers, and the reason for the original post. All talk from multi-hullers is defensive of their choice (or, in your case, ad hominem attacks - you've been on ASA too long), rather than an honest discussion of the pro's and con's. Even Chris White's book is pure advocacy. It's too bad, because some folks out there are just looking for the straight poop. Happy sailing to you. |
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Bobspirt wrote: 2 engines, 2 heads, 2 hulls worth of hatches, deck fittings, deck seams, etc., 2 steering systems . . . Is the rule that sockpuppets have to be funny a new one? Now, that Gunboat might make you forget about all that. If there's someone out there who speaks ebonics, could you please translate? -- Jonathan Ganz (j gan z @ $ail no w.c=o=m) http://www.sailnow.com "If there's no wind, row." |
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Sockpuppet stupidsockpuppet wrote: Well, Jeff, anyone can say having two of everything is an advantage because of the redundancy factor, but then why not have 3 of everything. This is exactly the sort of spin-like answer you get from multi-hullers, and the reason for the original post. All talk from multi-hullers is defensive of their choice (or, in your case, ad hominem attacks - you've been on ASA too long), rather than an honest discussion of the pro's and con's. Even Chris White's book is pure advocacy. It's too bad, because some folks out there are just looking for the straight poop. Happy sailing to you. This idiot never heard of trimarans. -- Jonathan Ganz (j gan z @ $ail no w.c=o=m) http://www.sailnow.com "If there's no wind, row." |
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Jon, you, a racist? Who'd a thunk it.
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Bobspirt wrote: Jon, you, a racist? Who'd a thunk it. Only for asinine sockpuppets. -- Jonathan Ganz (j gan z @ $ail no w.c=o=m) http://www.sailnow.com "If there's no wind, row." |
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