So, BB, you think that a Real sailor would have pliers and a computer
aboard, do you?


If you read Latitudes and look at what "real" cruisers carry, the answer is
yes. Laptops are common and useful.
Donal, you blew it again!

RB

Try a little intellectual honesty sometime, if you dare.


This is Donal you're talking about. Let's keep our expectations grounded!

RB

If you have an outboard motor for your dinghy, it should be cared for
like any other tool.


The "man" sails a Beneteau. Let's hope he has a dinghy AND a liferaft!

RB

A computer is optional for most sailors, but it depends a lot on what they're
using it for. I don't bother for most cruises, but if I'm out for more than a
few weeks I certainly carry one. Some sailors use them for navigation, others
for photography, and everyone here uses one for email.

But a pliers? Are you saying the a sailor shouldn't have a pliers onboard? I
must have 10, including one always at the helm, with a knife and screwdriver.
One in the rigging bag, one or two in the electrical kit, a few in the general
tool bag, and that's without getting into the serious stuff.



"Donal" wrote in message
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wrote in message
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On Fri, 17 Sep 2004 13:11:23 -0400, Martin Baxter

I take care of ALL of my tools and equipment. You and the Crapton are
poor sailors if you treat ANY of your tools and equipment carelessly.
If you have a motor, or a pair of pliers or a laptop computer,

So, BB, you think that a Real sailor would have pliers and a computer
aboard, do you?

You are about as much of a sailor as Bobsprit is!


Regards


Donal
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That reminds me - I was at the Newport Boat Show yesterday and went on a
Beneteau. As I stepped down into the saloon the floor squeaked! I said to
the salesman, "You know, there's a running joke on the internet ..." and he
said, "the floorboards squeak? Yea, I get that all the time!" He went on to
explain how they're working to correct the problem.

On another front, the Portabote guy said the limit for the outboard is not HP,
its 54 pounds. He didn't offer a suggestion (I didn't press) but preferred to
say that any small engine would get it up to 20 knots.




"Bobsprit" wrote in message
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If you have an outboard motor for your dinghy, it should be cared for
like any other tool.


The "man" sails a Beneteau. Let's hope he has a dinghy AND a liferaft!

RB

But a pliers? Are you saying the a sailor shouldn't have a pliers onboard?


Donald doesn't need pliers. Everything on a Beneteau is fastened with velcro.

RB

On another front, the Portabote guy said the limit for the outboard is not HP,
its 54 pounds. He didn't offer a suggestion (I didn't press) but preferred to
say that any small engine would get it up to 20 knots.

I called Portaboat and they suggested that the 4HP would do the same as the 5.
I'll probably go with the 4 and enjoy the built in tank option as well.

RB

She's not frigid, she just doesn't have a personality. She's perfect for
Donald!


I should warn you....don't talk about is ill fitting floor boards and don't
call him Donald!

RB

I said to
the salesman, "You know, there's a running joke on the internet ..." and he
said, "the floorboards squeak? Yea, I get that all the time!" He went on to
explain how they're working to correct the problem.

The new 49 at my club had the problem, but the 51 (with it's six cabins!) did
not. I liked the 51 with it's odd deck entry only crew quarters.

RB

A 51 with 6 cabins? Is this a sailboat or a cheap peep show?

Clearly she was set up for charter. There are 4 equal staterooms, each with a
head. There is, of course, a large salon. The forward cabin is only accessable
via a large forward hatch and short ladder. Below is a toilet and double bunk,
presumably for skipper and crew. The fellow bought her because he has 4 kids.
In that light, she's not a bad choice. She also has mirror-steering stations on
deck. I note a higher level of quality on the 51 than other Beneteaus and the
owner loves her.

RB