Most women find men they can't manipulate to be mean.

If I gave you everything you wanted, then I wouldn't be mean.

"Lady Pilot" wrote

"Bart Senior" wrote:
I also enjoy sailing circles around other sailboats. When I'm feeling
particularly mean, I do it twice to rub it in. : )

I find you particularly mean to women. I agree with everything Katysails
has said about you...

LP

"joe" wrote

#1 Isn't it part of good seamanship to cater for the well being of your
crew. Keeping them dry, well fed, rested and happy?

There is no such thing as "dry" on an Etchells.

The ladies had gotten their bottoms wet, and so did I, from maybe
a dozen or so waves that broke over the bow.

I would have provided oilskin pants for the crew or chosen a different
route..

The temp was 70 degrees and peaked at 76 degrees. Water temp was
72 degrees.

It is a mile out of the river. The choice of routes is not relevant;
avoiding the
shoals in the river is relevant. Once in the Sound, the number of options
is
limited.

I dry sail this boat. It is stored on a trailer. It is not worth putting
it in and
hoisting it out, unless I take it out for at least four hours.


Maybe it would have been nice to stop ashore like halfway up the trip to
enable the ladies to comfortably relieve themselves?

Halfway was 7 miles from land. Only a lighthouse surrounded by rocks.
On any other route without an inflatable and outboard, there would have
been no place to stop.


Lot of peeing going on, my guess is that plenty of drinks were served on
the
way. Alcohol? Any concern for the Coast Guard to be lookout for your
Etchells in the future?

You would have guessed wrong. You must be speaking from experience. I'd
guess you drink heavily when you sail.

There was no alcohol on board, only water. Very little of that was drunk.
I
don't bring alcohol when I go sailing. That's for powerboaters, you, and
CM.

This is probably not the way best way to introduce new people to the
wonderful sport of sailing..

Ya think? Maybe if I invited them I would have been better prepared and
chosen
something else like going to a movie.

What would you suggest? Going to a movie?

"Wally" wrote

With a last-minute change of crew, at least one of whom is a non-sailor,
shouldn't the skipper have reappraised the situation and altered the plan
accordingly?

Bart Senior wrote:


"joe" wrote

#1 Isn't it part of good seamanship to cater for the well being of your
crew. Keeping them dry, well fed, rested and happy?

There is no such thing as "dry" on an Etchells.

That's why any experienced keelboat sailor would have brought along proper
clothing, and not have their butts soaked..

If it's warm waterproof shorts might be enough..


It is a mile out of the river. The choice of routes is not relevant;
avoiding the
shoals in the river is relevant. Once in the Sound, the number of options
is
limited.

Maybe it would have been nice to stop ashore like halfway up the trip to
enable the ladies to comfortably relieve themselves?

Halfway was 7 miles from land. Only a lighthouse surrounded by rocks.
On any other route without an inflatable and outboard, there would have
been no place to stop.


"After a quick spin around the Port Jeff harbor, pointing out the hurricane
hole and other feature of this fabulous harbor, to my friend Fred, we
headed out.**I*like*to*learn*about*new*harbors.**It's*alw ays*nice*to*have
local knowledge of choice harbors."

Well, why couldn't you stop there and take a walk ashore to learn more? Or
maybe you are not confident in maneuvering your boat under sail well enough
to enter and dock at new harbors..

Bart Senior wrote:
What would you suggest? Going to a movie?

Was the movie called "Introduction To Sailing"?


--
Wally
www.artbywally.com
www.wally.myby.co.uk

hey Wally, I see lots of water in your paintings, why no sailboats? : )
Scout

"Wally" wrote in message
...
Bart Senior wrote:
What would you suggest? Going to a movie?

Was the movie called "Introduction To Sailing"?


--
Wally
www.artbywally.com
www.wally.myby.co.uk

Scout wrote:
hey Wally, I see lots of water in your paintings, why no sailboats?

It's never occurred to me to include some - maybe they're a bit worldly for
what I'm about with the paintings.


--
Wally
www.artbywally.com
www.wally.myby.co.uk

DSK wrote:


Yes it's a great efficient rig. But how about something like a screecher
or Code Zero? Would it be possible to gain enough speed through the
water to make up for the low pointing?


No, I don't think so -an idea demonstrated by IACC racing. Think about
the apparent wind shifting as speed rises. The key to good upwind
performace is the lift drag ratio. So, we see the benefit of the jib
with it's sharp _stable_ entry for upwind work.

Cheers

Yes it's a great efficient rig. But how about something like a
screecher or Code Zero? Would it be possible to gain enough speed
through the water to make up for the low pointing?


Nav wrote:
No, I don't think so -an idea demonstrated by IACC racing. Think about
the apparent wind shifting as speed rises.

I don't think so either, but it would be fun to check it out. Expensve,
tho'...

... The key to good upwind
performace is the lift drag ratio.

True enough, but the best combined angles are in constant flux. Plus,
the Etchells has much lower aspect ratio rig & foils than an IACC boat.
It's not a good starting point for generalizing. There *might* be some
cases where big light high camber head sail like a screecher or Code 0
might give faster VMG... it would almost certainly be too specialized a
case to be worth pursuing though.

Some boats carry this type of sail all around the course. A few years
back I watched some Windrider Raves (a small foil riding trimaran)
racing, the ones equipped with screechers carried them up wind, much
faster at a lower angle, and beat the ones without quite handily.

Fresh Breezes- Doug King

eeeewwwwwww...........
"Scott Vernon" wrote in message
...
Your link didn't work, but I know what it is. There was one in the Mac
when we bought it. I used it as a funnel to fill the alcohol stove .

Scotty

"katysails" wrote in message
...
Next time you take ladies out, Bart, maybe you should invest in this
little

gizmo.....http://www.westmarine.com/webapp/wcs...rvlet/ProductD
isplay
?storeId=10001&langId=-1&catalogId=10001&productId=35264