Also, how do you secure your spinnaker clews to the sheets?


OzOne wrote:
We use C Clips..NEW C Clips, after a couple of seasons they wear
enough to release during the set. On really big days we often run a
couple of wraps of insulating tape adound one of the pair so they
won't release.

Ah so... who makes them? I'd love to get something that was light and
smooth enough to pass easily around the stays.

We put the sheet through the clew eye, or use a turn around & through
the clew eye, and tie a stopper knot where it will be on the inside. But
it still hangs up a discouragingly large percent of the time.


Yep, trap.
The hull was very flat bottomed and only 12' but had a 3' bowsprit so
carried a lot of sail for its size.
Originally had a single ended spinnaker pole that was kickered down to
the bowsprit and a wire luffed spinnaker.

A wire luff spinnaker!?! Dang that sounds like these things really got
loaded up.


I won an Aust Champ in them and a couple of 3rds but after they'd gone
to a double ended pole and conventional but still very flat spinaker,
and looked like the pic above. That was the days of triangular courses
and screaming shy runs.

Does everyone there run W/L nowadays? That's most common here. I love
tight reaches, we alway do well on a course like that. Other sailors
like to complain that they're not "tactical" but I think it's just an
old fashioned mind set. You can pass a boat on any course, and where one
boat can pass, another has to defend... sounds tactical to me!

Fresh Breezes- Doug King

Perhaps I'm purer than previously believed!
Do mid-Western courting rituals include the dichotomization of voluminous
catalogs and/or directories by the male? er . . . by the female? [gulp]

Perhaps a few yes/no questions would help us out!
Is this book used as a prop in some way?
Does one person stand on it?
Does one person kneel on it?
Do any readings take place from said book?

pssst ~ Seahag, if I find out, I'll let you know too!
Scout


"katysails" wrote in message
...
well, yeah...since you are generationally in the same place I am you
should
know all about taking phone books on dates....
"Scout" wrote in message
...
hmmm, I'd like to know more, but will I appear foolish for asking?
Scout

"katysails" wrote in message
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...and took a phone book or the Sears catalog along on dates....

"Scout" wrote in message
...
and shiny, patent leather shoes? ()
Scout

"katysails" wrote in message
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They didn't even exist when I was in school....I think I owned my
first
pair
of bluejeans when I was 18....we had a very strict dress code and
had
to
wear dresses or skkirts to school....
wrote in message
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On Wed, 15 Sep 2004 23:01:50 GMT, "katysails"

wrote:

I went to school with you?

No, you were the one wearing Gloria Peterbuilt jeans.

BB

"Jonathan Ganz" wrote in message
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In article ,
OzOne

wrote:
On Tue, 14 Sep 2004 02:01:10 GMT, "katysails"
scribbled thusly:

I don't buy Levi products....I wear LandsEnd.....hardly the
designer
type.....

Lands End,,, funny name for jeans.

When I was in grad school, I had a female classmate who wore
them
all
the time. She was known as no-man's land. Too bad...

--
Jonathan Ganz (j gan z @ $ail no w.c=o=m)
http://www.sailnow.com
"If there's no wind, row."

OzOne wrote:
USA is pretty conservative afa sailing boats generally.

"Conservative" is putting it mildly. The Hobie and the Laser are our
only popular one-design classes that don't date from the 1940s or earlier.

If you go to that page above and look at the classes you'll see a few
rockets like the Sharpie...nothing like your sharpies :-)

Seen em. I think they started out similar to Lightnings only evolved for
speed.

Sometimes I wonder what classes in the U.S. would be like if sandbagger
racing had stayed popular... they were similar to the boats the
18-footers grew out of.

Fresh Breezes- Doug King

"DSK" wrote in message
. ..
OzOne wrote:
USA is pretty conservative afa sailing boats generally.

"Conservative" is putting it mildly. The Hobie and the Laser are our
only popular one-design classes that don't date from the 1940s or earlier.

Bruce Kirby, the designer of the Laser, is Canadian.




If you go to that page above and look at the classes you'll see a few
rockets like the Sharpie...nothing like your sharpies :-)

Seen em. I think they started out similar to Lightnings only evolved for
speed.

Sometimes I wonder what classes in the U.S. would be like if sandbagger
racing had stayed popular... they were similar to the boats the
18-footers grew out of.

Fresh Breezes- Doug King

"Scout" wrote in message
news
Perhaps I'm purer than previously believed!
Do mid-Western courting rituals include the dichotomization of voluminous
catalogs and/or directories by the male? er . . . by the female? [gulp]

Perhaps a few yes/no questions would help us out!
Is this book used as a prop in some way?No

Does one person stand on it?
No
Does one person kneel on it?
No
Do any readings take place from said book?
No
pssst ~ Seahag, if I find out, I'll let you know too!
Scout

OK...I'll explain...the girl places it on teh guys lap when, because the car
is filled to capapcity, she must sit there...thus there is no chance of a
close encounter of the ...you know....kind.....


"katysails" wrote in message
...
well, yeah...since you are generationally in the same place I am you
should
know all about taking phone books on dates....
"Scout" wrote in message
...
hmmm, I'd like to know more, but will I appear foolish for asking?
Scout

"katysails" wrote in message
...
...and took a phone book or the Sears catalog along on dates....

"Scout" wrote in message
...
and shiny, patent leather shoes? ()
Scout

"katysails" wrote in message
...
They didn't even exist when I was in school....I think I owned
my
first
pair
of bluejeans when I was 18....we had a very strict dress code
and
had
to
wear dresses or skkirts to school....
wrote in message
...
On Wed, 15 Sep 2004 23:01:50 GMT, "katysails"

wrote:

I went to school with you?

No, you were the one wearing Gloria Peterbuilt jeans.

BB

"Jonathan Ganz" wrote in
message
...
In article ,
OzOne

wrote:
On Tue, 14 Sep 2004 02:01:10 GMT, "katysails"
scribbled thusly:

I don't buy Levi products....I wear LandsEnd.....hardly
the
designer
type.....

Lands End,,, funny name for jeans.

When I was in grad school, I had a female classmate who
wore
them
all
the time. She was known as no-man's land. Too bad...

--
Jonathan Ganz (j gan z @ $ail no w.c=o=m)
http://www.sailnow.com
"If there's no wind, row."

I'd let my fingers do the walking.
Scout

"katysails" wrote in message
...

"Scout" wrote in message
news
Perhaps I'm purer than previously believed!
Do mid-Western courting rituals include the dichotomization of
voluminous
catalogs and/or directories by the male? er . . . by the female? [gulp]

Perhaps a few yes/no questions would help us out!
Is this book used as a prop in some way?No

Does one person stand on it?
No
Does one person kneel on it?
No
Do any readings take place from said book?
No
pssst ~ Seahag, if I find out, I'll let you know too!
Scout

OK...I'll explain...the girl places it on teh guys lap when, because the
car
is filled to capapcity, she must sit there...thus there is no chance of a
close encounter of the ...you know....kind.....


"katysails" wrote in message
...
well, yeah...since you are generationally in the same place I am you
should
know all about taking phone books on dates....
"Scout" wrote in message
...
hmmm, I'd like to know more, but will I appear foolish for asking?
Scout

"katysails" wrote in message
...
...and took a phone book or the Sears catalog along on dates....

"Scout" wrote in message
...
and shiny, patent leather shoes? ()
Scout

"katysails" wrote in message

...
They didn't even exist when I was in school....I think I owned
my
first
pair
of bluejeans when I was 18....we had a very strict dress code
and
had
to
wear dresses or skkirts to school....
wrote in message
...
On Wed, 15 Sep 2004 23:01:50 GMT, "katysails"

wrote:

I went to school with you?

No, you were the one wearing Gloria Peterbuilt jeans.

BB

"Jonathan Ganz" wrote in
message
...
In article ,
OzOne

wrote:
On Tue, 14 Sep 2004 02:01:10 GMT, "katysails"
scribbled thusly:

I don't buy Levi products....I wear LandsEnd.....hardly
the
designer
type.....

Lands End,,, funny name for jeans.

When I was in grad school, I had a female classmate who
wore
them
all
the time. She was known as no-man's land. Too bad...

--
Jonathan Ganz (j gan z @ $ail no w.c=o=m)
http://www.sailnow.com
"If there's no wind, row."

"katysails" wrote
OK...I'll explain...the girl places it on teh guys lap when, because
the car
is filled to capapcity, she must sit there...thus there is no chance
of a
close encounter of the ...you know....kind.....


Sheesh! Sounds like a mid-western thing.

Scotty

maybe we shouldn't prejudge Scotty. Some of the mid-Western towns had only
one exchange and paper thin phone books ; )
Scout

"Scott Vernon" wrote in message
...
"katysails" wrote
OK...I'll explain...the girl places it on teh guys lap when, because
the car
is filled to capapcity, she must sit there...thus there is no chance
of a
close encounter of the ...you know....kind.....


Sheesh! Sounds like a mid-western thing.

Scotty

nope....Catholic girl's school thing...nuns ran around with rulers during
dances making sure you were slow dancing at least 6 inches apart....
"Scott Vernon" wrote in message
...
"katysails" wrote
OK...I'll explain...the girl places it on teh guys lap when, because
the car
is filled to capapcity, she must sit there...thus there is no chance
of a
close encounter of the ...you know....kind.....


Sheesh! Sounds like a mid-western thing.

Scotty

Detroit....IIRC, aboaut 3 inches thick.....
"Scout" wrote in message
...
maybe we shouldn't prejudge Scotty. Some of the mid-Western towns had only
one exchange and paper thin phone books ; )
Scout

"Scott Vernon" wrote in message
...
"katysails" wrote
OK...I'll explain...the girl places it on teh guys lap when, because
the car
is filled to capapcity, she must sit there...thus there is no chance
of a
close encounter of the ...you know....kind.....


Sheesh! Sounds like a mid-western thing.

Scotty