What a dumb ass statement. If you are living near or hanging around
a terrorist bomb factory, and you have kids. The smart thing to do no
matter what is move. I would rather have my kids living in a tent
shelter in the desert than to be a risk of vaporation.


Joe has simply NO CLUE.

RB

No kidding Donal. The war on Terror is against any country that
supports in anyway terrorist anywhere. We can not afford to wait to be
struck again by anyone.


But should these wars be waged at all costs, by lying to Americans and the rest
of the world?
Nope.

RB

Vito wrote:
Back when it became obvious that the Communists would win the forthcoming
reunification election in Vietnam

Excuse me Vito, are you really into gardening? Is that why you continue
to spout this horse **** even after I've showed a dozen or more
references showing that it is just plain NOT even close to true?


We are currently buying war surplus ammo from Israel and the UK

More total malarkey. The U.S. arms industry supplies about 70% of the
ammunition used in the world.

Vito, you should stop snorting Drano or else stick to talking sailing.
Anytime you try to talk about history or economics, you seem to lapse
into Ebonics.

DSK

In article ,
Dave wrote:
On 30 Sep 2004 13:17:16 -0700, (Jonathan Ganz)
said:

Because it would be political suicide. And why is that you ask?

Just a constructive suggestion g. As I've noted before, Jonathan, you
haven't much of an ear for irony.

You, on the other hand, have a facility for the absurd.

Woof doggie!!




--
Jonathan Ganz (j gan z @ $ail no w.c=o=m)
http://www.sailnow.com
"If there's no wind, row."

In article ,
Jonathan Ganz wrote:
In article ,
Dave wrote:
On 30 Sep 2004 13:17:16 -0700, (Jonathan Ganz)
said:

Because it would be political suicide. And why is that you ask?

Just a constructive suggestion g. As I've noted before, Jonathan, you
haven't much of an ear for irony.

You, on the other hand, have a facility for the absurd.

Woof doggie!!

You sure did a slick job of editing my post. Perhaps we should stop
calling you Mr. Poodle and start calling you Slick Doggie.
--
Jonathan Ganz (j gan z @ $ail no w.c=o=m)
http://www.sailnow.com
"If there's no wind, row."

In article ,
Dave wrote:
On 30 Sep 2004 14:41:29 -0700, (Jonathan Ganz)
said:

You sure did a slick job of editing my post. Perhaps we should stop
calling you Mr. Poodle and start calling you Slick Doggie.

Simply omitted another of your incessant repetitions of the party line.

BTW, I'm sure everyone but you has noticed that you can't seem to resist
responding to my every post. On the other hand I choose my targets a bit
more selectively. I leave it to the reader to decide which behavior more
resembles that of a puppy dog.

I'm sure they have! Dogs need to be trained, and sometimes it takes a
while. BTW, I never said you were a puppy dog. I said you were a grown
up (well, that is a stretch) poodle.



--
Jonathan Ganz (j gan z @ $ail no w.c=o=m)
http://www.sailnow.com
"If there's no wind, row."

"DSK" wrote in message
...
Vito wrote:
Back when it became obvious that the Communists would win the
forthcoming
reunification election in Vietnam

Excuse me Vito, are you really into gardening? Is that why you continue
to spout this horse **** even after I've showed a dozen or more
references showing that it is just plain NOT even close to true?

Yada Yada yada - I suppose no reunification elections were ever scheduled,
that the partitioning was to be permanent, or that the Diem regime was going
to beat Ho by a landslide.



We are currently buying war surplus ammo from Israel and the UK

More total malarkey. The U.S. arms industry supplies about 70% of the
ammunition used in the world.

Never the less we are buying (back?) small arms ammo from Israel and the UK.

Vito wrote:
Yada Yada yada - I suppose no reunification elections were ever scheduled,

Nope.

that the partitioning was to be permanent,

Nope
... or that the Diem regime was going
to beat Ho by a landslide.

Yep.

For one thing, about 4 million refugees fled North Viet Nam in the mid
1950s, came to the Sotuh, and having seen the Viet Minh gov't in action,
would never have voted for it. In fact, one of the big disputes that
they argued over was that the North insisted that refugees could not be
allowed to vote. Needless to say, there were very few if any refugees
fleeing the South to the North.

Real history does not lend itself to neat ideological explanations (for
the most part) but spinning out fantasy and calling it history will not
explain a damn thing.


.... The U.S. arms industry supplies about 70% of the
ammunition used in the world.


Never the less we are buying (back?) small arms ammo from Israel and the UK.

That may be true. I've heard of crazier things being done with our tax
money.

DSK

wrote

Since the rise of terrorism, you will never see another nuke
generating plant constructed in the U.S.A. The existing ones, even
including de-commissioned plants, have become a major security
problem, and it is virtually impossible to protect them adequately.

I agree there will never be another for any number of reasons including
hysteria and stupidity but not that they are difficult, let alone impossible
to protect. That's an urban legend. Engineering analysis shows that the
containment domes are impregnable to anything short of an A-bomb and AFAIK
no terrorists have enough a-bombs to waste on power plants. Beyond that the
few I've seen would be as easy to defend as any airport or government
facility.

"Jonathan Ganz" wrote in message
...
We don't need nuke plants, although I don't have a huge problem with that.
There are better, less intrusive ways to do the same thing.

Please elaborate. I know of none that don't yield a net loss of energy.
Some suggest solar panels til they find how much they cost. Others like
windmills - ditto.