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Scout September 11th 04 07:44 AM

"Gilligan" wrote
The political "debate" here is so funny!

Scarcasm noted.

In fact not one of you can name a single President that
has ever reduced the scope of government or extended freedom.

Our founding fathers did exactly that. By not over inflating the role of
government to begin with, they effectively reduced its scope. They should
get credit for that. An example would be the federal government's original
position on education.

I'm for any candidate who promises:
[snip]

Ever see the Ditech commercial where the loan officer *keeps his promise* to
reduce paperwork by removing 1 page from the stack of 10,000 application
pages? Promises are for suckers.

Vote Libertarian! Leave the big party-franchise politics to those who are
too cowardly to live or think for themselves.

Screw the Libertarian's - if you want real change, grow a set, start a
revolution.

Scout



Vito September 13th 04 02:02 PM

Who are they running. I was going to write in somebody.

"Scout" wrote

Vote Libertarian!




Scout September 13th 04 06:12 PM

beats me Vito, I gave up on them after the spectacle of Linden LaRouche.
You could always write in . . .
Scout
"a chicken in every pot!"

"Vito" wrote in message
...
Who are they running. I was going to write in somebody.

"Scout" wrote

Vote Libertarian!






Thom Stewart September 13th 04 09:49 PM

donal,

I've been more than a little ****ed about our Electoral College but
after doing a little study I find the UK has many,many more
Repersentative that are not elected by popular vote than we do!

I guess we are still better off than you are. Our Senate is still
elected by a direct vote of the people. Be damned to your Upper House.

Ole Thom


Jonathan Ganz September 13th 04 11:45 PM

In article , OzOne wrote:
Yep, Blair is a lawyer /barrister.
Well educated and quick thinking unlike the stumbling fool.


As much as I disagree with many of Blair's actions, it's embarrassing
to compare him to Bush.
--
Jonathan Ganz (j gan z @ $ail no w.c=o=m)
http://www.sailnow.com
"If there's no wind, row."


Jonathan Ganz September 14th 04 01:07 AM

In article , OzOne wrote:
On 13 Sep 2004 15:45:23 -0700, (Jonathan
Ganz) scribbled thusly:

In article , OzOne wrote:
Yep, Blair is a lawyer /barrister.
Well educated and quick thinking unlike the stumbling fool.


As much as I disagree with many of Blair's actions, it's embarrassing
to compare him to Bush.


Seems to me that the Republican presidents in recent times have all
been an embarrassment

Nixon, Ford, Reagan and the two Bushes


Except for the pardon, I liked Ford. He just played too many football
games without his helmet.

--
Jonathan Ganz (j gan z @ $ail no w.c=o=m)
http://www.sailnow.com
"If there's no wind, row."


Donal September 14th 04 01:10 AM


"Thom Stewart" wrote in message
...
donal,

I've been more than a little ****ed about our Electoral College but
after doing a little study I find the UK has many,many more
Repersentative that are not elected by popular vote than we do!

I guess we are still better off than you are. Our Senate is still
elected by a direct vote of the people. Be damned to your Upper House.


The sad truth is that our un-elected upper house has a fantastic record.

Hindsight shows that they have nearly always been correct when they have
opposed the elected government. They have been a brilliant moderating
force. I cannot defend their existence logically. However, I haven't seen
a system that has worked better.


The unelected peers tend to vote with their conscience because they are very
difficult to control or coerce. They can't be sacked, or de-selected. It
isn't easy to bribe them with offers of promotion either - there aren't
enough senior positions to fill.

They are definitely not a democratic institution, but they have done a
better job of defending democracy and civil liberties than any elected
government has done over the last 100 years.


Regards


Donal
--





Thom Stewart September 14th 04 01:42 AM

BB,

And what makes you so sure that the questions weren't set-up?

I seen the same program and was very impressed but it did seem a little
put on.
I seen that lady in the light brown suit stand up first, time after time
and never called on.

Not to say it wasn't impressive, it was. Then I remember him taking
questions from our press on the WH Lawn and he was nothing like that
performance in the UK Parliament

Ole Thom


Thom Stewart September 14th 04 01:55 AM

Yeah Oz,

Can Blair come up with a statement like Bush:" We are on a irreversible
course of good, but that can change!"

You need a Yale degree and a Masters from Harvard to coin those kind of
statements! :^)

Ya has ta study under "Yogi Berra"
Ole Thom


Thom Stewart September 14th 04 02:05 AM

Jon,

Boy you really are a whizz bang. The only Rep. Pres. You picked was the
only non-elected President.

Jon, you really do have you hand on the pulse of the US Public; Oh Yeah

Ole Thom



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