ah ok
thought you type NYS in your post
still respectfully disagree.

gf.

"katysails" wrote in message
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I did not mention anything about NY state...NY state is a lovely
place...it's just NYC that's a mess...
"gonefishiing" wrote in message
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oh come on katysails.
appease me for a minute or two
new york ain't a bad place

some years ago i lived in kentucky,
when i first moved there i was blown away at the crime, mostly the
murders.
while living there a friend and colleaque was murdered in a bizzarre set
of
circumstances. this is something i have personally never witnessed in
NYC
(other then 9/11)
and hope i never do. (not to say it doesn't happen)

if you don't know NY state i am sure you don't know NY
a short run thru google reveals the following:

http://rolke.dyndns.org/bay.htm
http://www.adirondack-park.net/
http://catskills.hvnet.com/

and than there is the palisades, out my door and across he hudson river
(15
minutes from midtown)
http://geology.cwru.edu/~huwig/catal.../375.%20.1.jpg

"katysails" wrote in message
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Ah...NYS...just makes you want to pack up and move there
immediately....