Piano salon, stables, and servants quarters...
"Bart Senior" wrote in message
et...
"Bobsprit" wrote

My C&C 32 has proven to be an all around great boat. But
there are some areas where she falls short

1) 6'6 bunks are still too short for me. Few boats deal well with this
problem.

It is well known that sailors prefer long bunks to wide ones.

2) Her head is a bit small.

Bring a shoe horn.

3) I'd prefer a longer anchor roller.

Easy. Change it.

4) Her aft cleat arrangement is not ideal.

Most boats screw this up. Change them. I like Herreshoff Cleats

5) Her traveler system needs an upgrade.

What is wrong with it?

6) She predates those very practical walk-thru transoms by a mile.

So you want to sacrifice safety for convenience? Smart idea if you
never go offshore.

Some items can be fixed...some would be a bit involved. Now, what aspect
of
your boat's performance and ergonomics would you change and how? What
MUST
you
have on your next boat that isn't part of your current vessel's design?

I'd like an easier way to get in the boat from the water. An open
transom,
or better yet, a flip down transom that turns into a dinghy dock.

Bart

(Jonathan Ganz) wrote in message ...
Joe, you're one sad little boy... so much anger... I mean get past
it... for your own good.


Anger at what Jonboy?

His bunks are to short, his head is to small,has an improper anchoring
system, his stern cleats are in the wrong place, most likely getting
in the way of the big sewer pipe or ladder, running rigging is not set
up right, and he want's a weak transom that weakens a hull greatly. No
anger, just the facts.

And your Cal 20 is great for small lakes.... but thats about it.



Joe


In article ,
Joe wrote:
Falls Short is the Key Word. My 13 foot Dink is great but..........
Perfect for midgets huh?
Whats wrong is it choking on all your sh**
Get a hawspipe
Bet there weak as well.
To bad they did not do it right the first time huh?
walk thru transoms are for idiots.
I would make the hull Nicklecopper
NOTHING.

Joe

And notice bob I adressed all your question without making or creating
10 more postings. I know you want to keep your top posting number up
but it's a pain in the ass to have to back out and address each and
everyone of your important new postings.

Nutsy?

If you had a walk-thru transom, why would you keep the step-ladder?

If I wasn't so damn old, I'd install a cold plate in my chest ice box.

Capitol, after a lot of discussion, removed the beautiful, teak
drop-leaf table and finally gave me the space I wanted in the
Pilothouse.

Really, Capital Yachts did a good job of helping me make the changes
that I wanted for my last boat. Even to suggesting the cold plate for
the ice box, which I over ruled.

I'm a very happy old sailor with my last boat. Works for me!

Ole Thom

In article ,
Joe wrote:
(Jonathan Ganz) wrote in message ...
Joe, you're one sad little boy... so much anger... I mean get past
it... for your own good.


Anger at what Jonboy?

It's pretty obvious Joey.

And your Cal 20 is great for small lakes.... but thats about it.

Actually, Cal 20s have crossed the Pacific, but I wouldn't recommend
it. It does pretty well on the SF bay.. a bit more challenging that
you're typical small lake.
--
Jonathan Ganz (j gan z @ $ail no w.c=o=m)
http://www.sailnow.com
"If there's no wind, row."

I'm a very happy old sailor with my last boat. Works for me!

Glad to hear it, Thom. If only the Gulf 32 was a better sailing boat I'd really
want one.

RB

"Dave" wrote
A pump for emptying the water that collects in the icebox. .....

What about a portable submersable bilge pump?

On Tue, 7 Sep 2004 13:27:59 -0400, "Vito" wrote:

"Dave" wrote
A pump for emptying the water that collects in the icebox. .....

What about a portable submersable bilge pump?


Put one in. Don't you have a drain opening in the low point of your
ice box? My last boat had a small electric pump that I could use to
empty the standing water in the icebox. My current boat has a hand
operated pump that sort of resembles a bicycle pump. It is teed into
the sink drain. Pump, pump....out it goes. That hand bailing is a
major headache. My first boat had a drain hole that simply drained
into the bilge. Yuck. Very poor shortcut.

On 7 Sep 2004, Dave wrote:

On 30 Aug 2004, (Bobsprit) said:

Now, what aspect of your boat's
performance and ergonomics would
you change and how?

A pump for emptying the water that collects in the
icebox. The CS27 has a huge icebox, but after a
few days I have to spend a lot of time first draining
the water into a small bucket and then emptying the
bucket.

If so, why not then simply install one, either permanently, perhaps
T-eed to an exhaust hose on another device (your boat's sink), or by
adopting/using a small bilge pump?

On 7 Sep 2004 13:51:12 -0500, Dave wrote:

On Tue, 07 Sep 2004 17:37:11 GMT, felton said:

Put one in. Don't you have a drain opening in the low point of your
ice box? My last boat had a small electric pump that I could use to
empty the standing water in the icebox. My current boat has a hand
operated pump that sort of resembles a bicycle pump.

Yes, it does have a drain opening, with a valve to open, but the valve leads
to just a section of flexible pipe I have to lead to the bucket. I'll
probably end up installing a hand operated pump and lead the hose to the
sink. Certainly not a major problem, but a regular annoyance.

Indeed. A friend went the low tech route and just routed the hose to
an empty plastic gallon water jug and empties it when it gets full.
You would have to have a place for it, but it is better than the
current alternative

On a previous boat I installed a whale gusher foot activated pump,
connected to the reefer drain line with a spigot to the sink. worked
beautifully to drain ice melt water (prior to installing
refrigeration). I was able to use the ice melt water for washing
dishes and it made cleaning the reefer a lot easier.




On 7 Sep 2004 11:36:10 -0500, Dave wrote:

On 30 Aug 2004 17:04:21 GMT, (Bobsprit) said:

Now, what aspect of
your boat's performance and ergonomics would you change and how?

A pump for emptying the water that collects in the icebox. The CS27 has a
huge icebox, but after a few days I have to spend a lot of time first
draining the water into a small bucket and then emptying the bucket.