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Bobsprit August 30th 04 06:04 PM

Sailboats-What would You Change?
 

Try to keep this thread clean, folks!

We all love our boats. My C&C 32 has proven to be an all around great boat. But
there are some areas where she falls short and I'd make changes if I wasn't
moving up.

1) 6'6 bunks are still too short for me. Few boats deal well with this problem.
2) Her head is a bit small.
3) I'd prefer a longer anchor roller.
4) Her aft cleat arrangement is not ideal.
5) Her traveler system needs an upgrade.
6) She predates those very practical walk-thru transoms by a mile.

Some items can be fixed...some would be a bit involved. Now, what aspect of
your boat's performance and ergonomics would you change and how? What MUST you
have on your next boat that isn't part of your current vessel's design?

RB

Marc August 30th 04 06:28 PM

Forespar gunmount self-tacking jib boom and roller furling jib in
lieu of the Camberspar. This has been done on other freedoms and I
like it, but expensive.
Doyle Stack Pack on main. I have the Mack Pack, but still quite fussy.
Wish it would point a little higher, but not in the nature of the
beast.


On 30 Aug 2004 17:04:21 GMT, (Bobsprit) wrote:


Try to keep this thread clean, folks!

We all love our boats. My C&C 32 has proven to be an all around great boat. But
there are some areas where she falls short and I'd make changes if I wasn't
moving up.

1) 6'6 bunks are still too short for me. Few boats deal well with this problem.
2) Her head is a bit small.
3) I'd prefer a longer anchor roller.
4) Her aft cleat arrangement is not ideal.
5) Her traveler system needs an upgrade.
6) She predates those very practical walk-thru transoms by a mile.

Some items can be fixed...some would be a bit involved. Now, what aspect of
your boat's performance and ergonomics would you change and how? What MUST you
have on your next boat that isn't part of your current vessel's design?

RB



Jonathan Ganz August 30th 04 07:47 PM

In article ,
Marc wrote:
Forespar gunmount self-tacking jib boom and roller furling jib in
lieu of the Camberspar. This has been done on other freedoms and I
like it, but expensive.
Doyle Stack Pack on main. I have the Mack Pack, but still quite fussy.
Wish it would point a little higher, but not in the nature of the
beast.


Good question... It's not practical but I would like a regular
traveller on my Cal 20. Other than that and a better motor mount, I
can't really think of anything.

--
Jonathan Ganz (j gan z @ $ail no w.c=o=m)
http://www.sailnow.com
"If there's no wind, row."


Horvath August 30th 04 11:47 PM

On 30 Aug 2004 17:04:21 GMT, (Bobsprit) wrote this
crap:


Try to keep this thread clean, folks!

We all love our boats. My C&C 32 has proven to be an all around great boat. But
there are some areas where she falls short and I'd make changes if I wasn't
moving up.



More cooler space would be nice. I'd like to replace the head with a
walk-in cooler.

And for those who think you can't **** without a head, I always use
the swim platform.





Pathetic Earthlings! No one can save you now!

Jonathan Ganz August 30th 04 11:59 PM

You might want to consider not using the swim platform
and start using the ocean. You're obviously in need of
friends, and asking them to step on your **** isn't the
way to do it.

In article ,
Horvath wrote:
And for those who think you can't **** without a head, I always use
the swim platform.


--
Jonathan Ganz (j gan z @ $ail no w.c=o=m)
http://www.sailnow.com
"If there's no wind, row."


Joe August 31st 04 12:41 AM

(Jonathan Ganz) wrote in message ...
In article ,
Marc wrote:
Forespar gunmount self-tacking jib boom and roller furling jib in
lieu of the Camberspar. This has been done on other freedoms and I
like it, but expensive.
Doyle Stack Pack on main. I have the Mack Pack, but still quite fussy.
Wish it would point a little higher, but not in the nature of the
beast.


Good question... It's not practical but I would like a regular
traveller on my Cal 20. Other than that and a better motor mount, I
can't really think of anything.


If it's not pratical why would you want it?
Afraid that 2 hp might rip off your transom?

Joe

Joe August 31st 04 12:48 AM

(Bobsprit) wrote in message ...
Try to keep this thread clean, folks!

We all love our boats. My C&C 32 has proven to be an all around great boat. But
there are some areas where she falls short and I'd make changes if I wasn't
moving up.


Falls Short is the Key Word. My 13 foot Dink is great but..........



1) 6'6 bunks are still too short for me. Few boats deal well with this problem.


Perfect for midgets huh?

2) Her head is a bit small.


Whats wrong is it choking on all your sh**

3) I'd prefer a longer anchor roller.


Get a hawspipe
4) Her aft cleat arrangement is not ideal.


Bet there weak as well.

5) Her traveler system needs an upgrade.


To bad they did not do it right the first time huh?

6) She predates those very practical walk-thru transoms by a mile.


walk thru transoms are for idiots.


Some items can be fixed...some would be a bit involved. Now, what aspect of
your boat's performance and ergonomics would you change and how?


I would make the hull Nicklecopper

What MUST you
have on your next boat that isn't part of your current vessel's design?


NOTHING.

Joe

And notice bob I adressed all your question without making or creating
10 more postings. I know you want to keep your top posting number up
but it's a pain in the ass to have to back out and address each and
everyone of your important new postings.

Joe

RB


Jonathan Ganz August 31st 04 12:48 AM

In article ,
Joe wrote:
(Jonathan Ganz) wrote in message ...
In article ,
Marc wrote:
Forespar gunmount self-tacking jib boom and roller furling jib in
lieu of the Camberspar. This has been done on other freedoms and I
like it, but expensive.
Doyle Stack Pack on main. I have the Mack Pack, but still quite fussy.
Wish it would point a little higher, but not in the nature of the
beast.


Good question... It's not practical but I would like a regular
traveller on my Cal 20. Other than that and a better motor mount, I
can't really think of anything.


If it's not pratical why would you want it?
Afraid that 2 hp might rip off your transom?


Lost the arguments in the political arena, now you're on to looking
like a fool regarding sailing topics... got it.

It's not practical because I would like to better control the position
of the boom, but I would have to redo the entire mainsheet set up, and
I like using the barney post more than I care about boom position.

As far as the engine goes, I hardly ever use it, but it's a 4 horse,
2 stroke, and it weighs about 35 pounds. The motor mount gets stuck
some times when all the way down. Not a big deal for me, but when
my friend uses the boat, she has trouble with it.







--
Jonathan Ganz (j gan z @ $ail no w.c=o=m)
http://www.sailnow.com
"If there's no wind, row."


Jonathan Ganz August 31st 04 12:51 AM

Joe, you're one sad little boy... so much anger... I mean get past
it... for your own good.

In article ,
Joe wrote:
Falls Short is the Key Word. My 13 foot Dink is great but..........
Perfect for midgets huh?
Whats wrong is it choking on all your sh**
Get a hawspipe
Bet there weak as well.
To bad they did not do it right the first time huh?
walk thru transoms are for idiots.
I would make the hull Nicklecopper
NOTHING.

Joe

And notice bob I adressed all your question without making or creating
10 more postings. I know you want to keep your top posting number up
but it's a pain in the ass to have to back out and address each and
everyone of your important new postings.


--
Jonathan Ganz (j gan z @ $ail no w.c=o=m)
http://www.sailnow.com
"If there's no wind, row."


Bart Senior August 31st 04 01:29 AM

"Bobsprit" wrote

My C&C 32 has proven to be an all around great boat. But
there are some areas where she falls short

1) 6'6 bunks are still too short for me. Few boats deal well with this

problem.

It is well known that sailors prefer long bunks to wide ones.

2) Her head is a bit small.


Bring a shoe horn.

3) I'd prefer a longer anchor roller.


Easy. Change it.

4) Her aft cleat arrangement is not ideal.


Most boats screw this up. Change them. I like Herreshoff Cleats

5) Her traveler system needs an upgrade.


What is wrong with it?

6) She predates those very practical walk-thru transoms by a mile.


So you want to sacrifice safety for convenience? Smart idea if you
never go offshore.

Some items can be fixed...some would be a bit involved. Now, what aspect

of
your boat's performance and ergonomics would you change and how? What MUST

you
have on your next boat that isn't part of your current vessel's design?


I'd like an easier way to get in the boat from the water. An open transom,
or better yet, a flip down transom that turns into a dinghy dock.

Bart




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