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Bobsprit August 24th 04 01:04 PM

Bush Busted!!!!!! Bwahahahaha!
 
Bush has formerly called for all ads questioning Kerry's service to end. It
really backfired on Bush. Major victory for Kerry..again! Read below!!!

CRAWFORD, Texas (Aug. 23) -- President Bush said on Monday that political
advertisements run by a broad swath of independent groups should be stopped,
including a television advertisement attacking Senator John Kerry's war record.
Asked if Mr. Kerry had lied about his war record, Mr. Bush said, "Mr. Kerry
served admirably and he ought to be proud of his record.''

BLAAABAMMMMMMM!!!! And that's that!


RB

FamilySailor August 24th 04 02:39 PM

What a man of Honor!!!!
I am gonna have to vote for Bush! He has integrity.
Thank for the update BS.

Sea Yawl,
John

"Bobsprit" wrote in message
...
Bush has formerly called for all ads questioning Kerry's service to end.

It
really backfired on Bush. Major victory for Kerry..again! Read below!!!

CRAWFORD, Texas (Aug. 23) -- President Bush said on Monday that political
advertisements run by a broad swath of independent groups should be

stopped,
including a television advertisement attacking Senator John Kerry's war

record.
Asked if Mr. Kerry had lied about his war record, Mr. Bush said, "Mr.

Kerry
served admirably and he ought to be proud of his record.''

BLAAABAMMMMMMM!!!! And that's that!


RB




Bart Senior August 24th 04 02:41 PM

Not quite. Kerry has many more of these organization working
for him. So it would be a loss for Kerry, if these ad's ended.

Kerry will not support dropping this form of soft money. So
the ad's won't stop until Kerry agrees to it. Ergo, they won't
stop.

Kudo's for Bush for making the point this form of soft money
should stop.

"Bobsprit" wrote
Bush has formerly called for all ads questioning Kerry's service to end.

It
really backfired on Bush. Major victory for Kerry..again! Read below!!!

CRAWFORD, Texas (Aug. 23) -- President Bush said on Monday that political
advertisements run by a broad swath of independent groups should be

stopped,
including a television advertisement attacking Senator John Kerry's war

record.
Asked if Mr. Kerry had lied about his war record, Mr. Bush said, "Mr.

Kerry
served admirably and he ought to be proud of his record.''

BLAAABAMMMMMMM!!!! And that's that!




DSK August 24th 04 05:47 PM

FamilySailor wrote:
What a man of Honor!!!!
I am gonna have to vote for Bush! He has integrity.
Thank for the update BS.

Sea Yawl,
John


Actually it's a clever move by President Bush (or should I say Karl
Rove). This way he gets the benefit of having John Kerry slandered
outrageously, which serves the double function of distracting everyone
from his poor record, and also gets credit for a manly effort to set the
record straight.

DSK


Jonathan Ganz August 24th 04 06:26 PM

In article , FamilySailor wrote:
What a man of Honor!!!!
I am gonna have to vote for Bush! He has integrity.
Thank for the update BS.


YEah, it only took him weeks and John McCain's urging to do it. Quite
a statesman... I'm going to vote for Kerry.
--
Jonathan Ganz (j gan z @ $ail no w.c=o=m)
http://www.sailnow.com
"If there's no wind, row."


Jonathan Ganz August 24th 04 06:27 PM

Except, that the 527s that support Kerry aren't lying about Bush.

In article ,
Bart Senior wrote:
Not quite. Kerry has many more of these organization working
for him. So it would be a loss for Kerry, if these ad's ended.

Kerry will not support dropping this form of soft money. So
the ad's won't stop until Kerry agrees to it. Ergo, they won't
stop.


--
Jonathan Ganz (j gan z @ $ail no w.c=o=m)
http://www.sailnow.com
"If there's no wind, row."


FamilySailor August 24th 04 08:14 PM

YEah, it only took him weeks and John McCain's urging to do it. Quite
a statesman... I'm going to vote for Kerry.
--
Jonathan Ganz (j gan z @ $ail no w.c=o=m)


And Kerry has yet to show ANY signs of being a statesman. What about the
Moore movie, and the websites that attack Bush ten time to every attack on
Kerry. The Kerry side has been slandering Bush and ONLY Bush shows ANY SIGN
of integrity. It has been MONTHS and Kerry is loving the Bush bashing, but
he can't take it, because he is a rich spoiled rotten (lawyer) BRAT! Bush
took all the lies and did not stomp his foot and throw a fit and threaten to
sew everybody like poor little sniveling Kerry.



Joe August 24th 04 08:17 PM

"Bart Senior" wrote in message .net...
Not quite. Kerry has many more of these organization working
for him. So it would be a loss for Kerry, if these ad's ended.

Kerry will not support dropping this form of soft money. So
the ad's won't stop until Kerry agrees to it. Ergo, they won't
stop.

Kudo's for Bush for making the point this form of soft money
should stop.


yes it should. I'm just waiting for the movie PBR 11 to come out.
Should be good.. and in the lying twisted propaganda fashon of Moore
POS 911.

Wonder why Kerry has not denounced 911, or seen it, or commented on
it?
I guess he leaves his dirty work to scum like Moore.

Whats fair for the goose is fair for the gander.

At least W has the guts to try to put a stop to it. While it's all
Kerry has to stand on.

Joe







"Bobsprit" wrote
Bush has formerly called for all ads questioning Kerry's service to end.

It
really backfired on Bush. Major victory for Kerry..again! Read below!!!

CRAWFORD, Texas (Aug. 23) -- President Bush said on Monday that political
advertisements run by a broad swath of independent groups should be

stopped,
including a television advertisement attacking Senator John Kerry's war

record.
Asked if Mr. Kerry had lied about his war record, Mr. Bush said, "Mr.

Kerry
served admirably and he ought to be proud of his record.''

BLAAABAMMMMMMM!!!! And that's that!


FamilySailor August 24th 04 08:19 PM

"Jonathan Ganz" wrote in message
...
Except, that the 527s that support Kerry aren't lying about Bush.

Talk about blind bias!



FamilySailor August 24th 04 08:22 PM

You can sum it up with the saying "What comes around goes around" hehehehe



Jonathan Ganz August 24th 04 08:28 PM

In article , FamilySailor wrote:
YEah, it only took him weeks and John McCain's urging to do it. Quite
a statesman... I'm going to vote for Kerry.
--
Jonathan Ganz (j gan z @ $ail no w.c=o=m)


And Kerry has yet to show ANY signs of being a statesman. What about the
Moore movie, and the websites that attack Bush ten time to every attack on
Kerry. The Kerry side has been slandering Bush and ONLY Bush shows ANY SIGN
of integrity. It has been MONTHS and Kerry is loving the Bush bashing, but
he can't take it, because he is a rich spoiled rotten (lawyer) BRAT! Bush
took all the lies and did not stomp his foot and throw a fit and threaten to
sew everybody like poor little sniveling Kerry.


Which is interesting in that Bush has not made any comments whatsoever
about MM's movie, nor about the "attack ads" you mention. Perhaps he's
unable to defend his record?

Bush showes signs of integity after McCain had to insist that Bush
disavow the Swiftboat nuts. After all, Bush did the same thing to him
not that long ago.

Bush is by far more spoiled than Kerry. An obvious fact if you could
possibly think clearly for a moment.

Bush can't justify anything in his record, therefore he keeps silent
and has Karl Rove do his dirty work.

Bush is a loser.




--
Jonathan Ganz (j gan z @ $ail no w.c=o=m)
http://www.sailnow.com
"If there's no wind, row."


Jonathan Ganz August 24th 04 08:29 PM

You could, but it doesn't wash. Bush is a small-minded drunk, who has
yet to tell us why he failed to show up for his physical.

Kerry is a decorated war hero, who volunteered for military service.

Bush probably volunteered to by a round at a local bar, but there's no
direct evidence to support that.

In article , FamilySailor wrote:
You can sum it up with the saying "What comes around goes around" hehehehe




--
Jonathan Ganz (j gan z @ $ail no w.c=o=m)
http://www.sailnow.com
"If there's no wind, row."


Jonathan Ganz August 24th 04 08:31 PM

He hasn't denounced it because it's a movie, not an attack ad. It also
happens to be pretty factual. It also makes Bush look like the idiot
he is.

In article ,
Joe wrote:
Wonder why Kerry has not denounced 911, or seen it, or commented on
it?
I guess he leaves his dirty work to scum like Moore.


After McCain practically had to strangle him to get him to do it.
Bush is a nothing.

At least W has the guts to try to put a stop to it. While it's all
Kerry has to stand on.


--
Jonathan Ganz (j gan z @ $ail no w.c=o=m)
http://www.sailnow.com
"If there's no wind, row."


Jonathan Ganz August 24th 04 08:32 PM

Talk about truth. They're accurate.

In article , FamilySailor wrote:
"Jonathan Ganz" wrote in message

...
Except, that the 527s that support Kerry aren't lying about Bush.

Talk about blind bias!




--
Jonathan Ganz (j gan z @ $ail no w.c=o=m)
http://www.sailnow.com
"If there's no wind, row."


FamilySailor August 24th 04 08:45 PM

It shows you two distinct personalities

One throws a fit and threatens to sew everybody and then gets mad, and yells
at and accuses the other side for not condemning partisans who are just
doing a fraction of what his own partisans are doing.

While the other, wants to end the slandering from both sides, complements
his opponent for the very thing the adds were attacking him for.

Can you figure out which one is President Bush and which one is Kerry?



Jonathan Ganz August 24th 04 08:45 PM

How about this...

One tells the truth and is a war hero.
One is a lazy drunk who is on vacation most of the time.

Can you figure out which one should be president?

In article , FamilySailor wrote:
It shows you two distinct personalities

One throws a fit and threatens to sew everybody and then gets mad, and yells
at and accuses the other side for not condemning partisans who are just
doing a fraction of what his own partisans are doing.

While the other, wants to end the slandering from both sides, complements
his opponent for the very thing the adds were attacking him for.

Can you figure out which one is President Bush and which one is Kerry?




--
Jonathan Ganz (j gan z @ $ail no w.c=o=m)
http://www.sailnow.com
"If there's no wind, row."


FamilySailor August 24th 04 08:57 PM

Which is interesting in that Bush has not made any comments whatsoever
about MM's movie, nor about the "attack ads" you mention. Perhaps he's
unable to defend his record?

Bush showes signs of integity after McCain had to insist that Bush
disavow the Swiftboat nuts. After all, Bush did the same thing to him
not that long ago.

Bush is by far more spoiled than Kerry. An obvious fact if you could
possibly think clearly for a moment.

Bush can't justify anything in his record, therefore he keeps silent
and has Karl Rove do his dirty work.

Bush is a loser.



What works on insecure men don't work on strong secure men. Kerry tried to
ignore the swift boat stuff, but it got under his skin and derailed his
whole campaign plan. Bush is much stronger. He just let in bead up and run
off, instead of letting it get under his skin. Both are exaggerated claims
and not worth paying attention to. One is just much cooler and wiser under
the gun. The whole thing has me laughing my ass off. The main stream liberal
press was not even mentioning the swift boat claims, until Kerry started
complaining about it. hehehehe. That was a HUGE campaign blunder. He should
have done like Bush and kept his cool. That is just another campaign blunder
by Kerry and a big one.

Hehehehehehehe, hahahahahahahah, hohohohohohoho
I am just loving the whole show. It is entertaining as hell.



FamilySailor August 24th 04 09:04 PM

"Jonathan Ganz" wrote in message
...
He hasn't denounced it because it's a movie, not an attack ad. It also
happens to be pretty factual. It also makes Bush look like the idiot
he is.

Actually neither man is an idiot. It is all frenzied campaign crap. You are
just too bias and emotional like most ;o)



FamilySailor August 24th 04 09:10 PM

Hehehehehehe, Hell I drank in college and high school for that matter and
still do. If Bush was a drunk, I am sure Moore would have had hours and
hours of video of him drunk. By your own standard you are probably much more
of a drunk than Bush. hehehe
You know the Pharisees did not like Jesus and they accused him of being a
drunkard too.


"Jonathan Ganz" wrote in message
...
How about this...

One tells the truth and is a war hero.
One is a lazy drunk who is on vacation most of the time.

Can you figure out which one should be president?

In article , FamilySailor wrote:
It shows you two distinct personalities

One throws a fit and threatens to sew everybody and then gets mad, and

yells
at and accuses the other side for not condemning partisans who are just
doing a fraction of what his own partisans are doing.

While the other, wants to end the slandering from both sides, complements
his opponent for the very thing the adds were attacking him for.

Can you figure out which one is President Bush and which one is Kerry?




--
Jonathan Ganz (j gan z @ $ail no w.c=o=m)
http://www.sailnow.com
"If there's no wind, row."




FamilySailor August 24th 04 09:10 PM


"FamilySailor" wrote in message
...
Hehehehehehe, Hell I drank in college and high school for that matter and
still do. If Bush was a drunk, I am sure Moore would have had hours and
hours of video of him drunk. By your own standard you are probably much

more
of a drunk than Bush. hehehe
You know the Pharisees did not like Jesus and they accused him of being a
drunkard too.


Oh, and it didn't work for the Pharisees either.......



Jonathan Ganz August 24th 04 10:17 PM

Did you also fail to show for your National Guard required physical?
Did you drink and drive?
Were you unable to stop drinking without professional/spiritial help?

In article , FamilySailor wrote:
Hehehehehehe, Hell I drank in college and high school for that matter and
still do. If Bush was a drunk, I am sure Moore would have had hours and
hours of video of him drunk. By your own standard you are probably much more
of a drunk than Bush. hehehe
You know the Pharisees did not like Jesus and they accused him of being a
drunkard too.


I didn't know Jesus, so I can't comment. Also, there aren't any
records of him being busted because he ran off the road in a drunken
stooper.

--
Jonathan Ganz (j gan z @ $ail no w.c=o=m)
http://www.sailnow.com
"If there's no wind, row."


Jonathan Ganz August 24th 04 10:19 PM

In article , FamilySailor wrote:
What works on insecure men don't work on strong secure men. Kerry tried to
ignore the swift boat stuff, but it got under his skin and derailed his
whole campaign plan. Bush is much stronger. He just let in bead up and run
off, instead of letting it get under his skin. Both are exaggerated claims
and not worth paying attention to. One is just much cooler and wiser under
the gun. The whole thing has me laughing my ass off. The main stream liberal
press was not even mentioning the swift boat claims, until Kerry started
complaining about it. hehehehe. That was a HUGE campaign blunder. He should
have done like Bush and kept his cool. That is just another campaign blunder
by Kerry and a big one.


His whole campaign plan?? What planet are you living on?

Apparently, you think it's more important and fun to listen to crass
and cynical views, rather than be interested in the actual
issues. Clearly, Bu**** is uninterested.


--
Jonathan Ganz (j gan z @ $ail no w.c=o=m)
http://www.sailnow.com
"If there's no wind, row."


Jonathan Ganz August 24th 04 10:20 PM

In article , FamilySailor wrote:
"Jonathan Ganz" wrote in message

...
He hasn't denounced it because it's a movie, not an attack ad. It also
happens to be pretty factual. It also makes Bush look like the idiot
he is.

Actually neither man is an idiot. It is all frenzied campaign crap. You are
just too bias and emotional like most ;o)


No, you're right. Bush is not an idiot. He's evil and cynical.


--
Jonathan Ganz (j gan z @ $ail no w.c=o=m)
http://www.sailnow.com
"If there's no wind, row."


Scott Vernon August 24th 04 11:51 PM


"Dave" wrote

"volunteered" so you had some say about where you were going, you

waited for
your draft papers, or you fled to Canada.


Viet Nam or Canada? ........tough choice.

Scotty



Jonathan Ganz August 25th 04 12:05 AM

Don't be like Mr. Poodle and change the subject to the facts please.

In article , OoozeOne wrote:
On Tue, 24 Aug 2004 14:14:52 -0500, "FamilySailor"
scribbled thusly:

YEah, it only took him weeks and John McCain's urging to do it. Quite
a statesman... I'm going to vote for Kerry.
--
Jonathan Ganz (j gan z @ $ail no w.c=o=m)


And Kerry has yet to show ANY signs of being a statesman. What about the
Moore movie,


What about the Moore movie?
It's one mans say about the man he believes stole the presidency.
His views were formed long before Kerry made the running.


--
Jonathan Ganz (j gan z @ $ail no w.c=o=m)
http://www.sailnow.com
"If there's no wind, row."


Jonathan Ganz August 25th 04 12:08 AM

In article ,
Dave wrote:
On 24 Aug 2004 12:29:38 -0700, (Jonathan Ganz)
said:

Kerry is a decorated war hero, who volunteered for military service.


Now, now... whatever he "may have done right?"

Whatever Kerry may have done right, let's not glorify this "volunteering"
for military service. At that time you did one of three things. You
"volunteered" so you had some say about where you were going, you waited for
your draft papers, or you fled to Canada. Those were the three choices
unless you had a daddy like Gore or Bush who could pull strings. (Oh, there
was the Clinton option--lie.) I seem to recall he was turned down for
another deferment, so the draft papers were on the way if he didn't
"volunteer."


In any case, he is a decorated war hero. He volunteered for service in
VN. Bush had some teeth fixed and failed to show up for his
physical. No comparison.

Clinton lied? Again? He lied about something other than a blow job?
I'm shocked, truly shocked.



--
Jonathan Ganz (j gan z @ $ail no w.c=o=m)
http://www.sailnow.com
"If there's no wind, row."


Jonathan Ganz August 25th 04 12:08 AM

In article ,
Scott Vernon wrote:

"Dave" wrote

"volunteered" so you had some say about where you were going, you

waited for
your draft papers, or you fled to Canada.


Viet Nam or Canada? ........tough choice.


Not really... the women in VN are pretty cute.


--
Jonathan Ganz (j gan z @ $ail no w.c=o=m)
http://www.sailnow.com
"If there's no wind, row."


Scott Vernon August 25th 04 12:19 AM


"Jonathan Ganz" wrote in message
...
In article ,
Scott Vernon wrote:

"Dave" wrote

"volunteered" so you had some say about where you were going, you

waited for
your draft papers, or you fled to Canada.


Viet Nam or Canada? ........tough choice.


Not really... the women in VN are pretty cute.


Do they at least shave their legs?

SV



Jonathan Ganz August 25th 04 01:24 AM

In article ,
Scott Vernon wrote:

"Jonathan Ganz" wrote in message
...
In article ,
Scott Vernon wrote:

"Dave" wrote

"volunteered" so you had some say about where you were going, you
waited for
your draft papers, or you fled to Canada.

Viet Nam or Canada? ........tough choice.


Not really... the women in VN are pretty cute.


Do they at least shave their legs?


And toothless I'm told.
--
Jonathan Ganz (j gan z @ $ail no w.c=o=m)
http://www.sailnow.com
"If there's no wind, row."


Horvath August 25th 04 02:02 AM

On 24 Aug 2004 12:45:12 -0700, (Jonathan
Ganz) wrote this crap:

How about this...

One tells the truth and is a war hero.


Honest George is no war hero.

One is a lazy drunk who is on vacation most of the time.



The French-looking John Kerry drinks? No wonder he misses 80% of his
roll calls.





Pathetic Earthlings! No one can save you now!

Bobsprit August 25th 04 02:10 AM

And Kerry has yet to show ANY signs of being a statesman. What about the
Moore movie,



Moore's film is how own work, which was started before Kerry was around.
Busted again!

RB

Bobsprit August 25th 04 02:12 AM

One tells the truth and is a war hero.

Honest George


If George is honest, then we can all believe 100% that Kerry served his country
with honor. George said so today.

Glad that's a closed case!

RB

SAIL LOCO August 25th 04 02:25 AM

,You could, but it doesn't wash. Bush is a small-minded drunk, who has
yet to tell us why he failed to show up for his physical.


And Kerry refuses to release his Vietnam records which would prove or disaprove
what the Swift boat vets are saying.
S/V Express 30 "Ringmaster"
"Trains are a winter sport"

Scott Vernon August 25th 04 02:36 AM

anybody understand this?


some idiot wrote.....

Moore's film is how own work,







Horvath August 25th 04 12:18 PM

On 25 Aug 2004 01:12:56 GMT, (Bobsprit) wrote this
crap:

One tells the truth and is a war hero.


Honest George


If George is honest, then we can all believe 100% that Kerry served his country
with honor. George said so today.

Glad that's a closed case!


Nobody doubts that the French-looking John Kerry served for four
months, then ran home like the coward he is.





Pathetic Earthlings! No one can save you now!

Vito August 25th 04 02:31 PM

"FamilySailor" wrote

Actually neither man is an idiot. ....


I'm not so sure. It's axiomatic that people will not elect anyone much
smarter than they are. This may be because they find his/her solutions to
issues hard to understand or that he/she seems to be an elitist. Worse yet,
the same 'dumbing down' we've seen in schools for several decades now
affects the electorite. Thus anyone who appears smarter than a village
idiot will be rejected. One solution is to offer a real idiot, but one wiser
party hacks can control. It's working for the GOP.

The proof comes when the ballon goes up. Consider Bush's reaction to 9-11.
Does he leap to the helm and take command of the situation? NO! He finishes
reading to the kindergarten then allows his SS protectors to whisk him to
safety for a week while Chainey and Rumsfield handled the crisis. That tells
me the good old boys from Halliburton are really in charge. But I wonder -
did Bush really drool and say "What! Me worry?" before going back to reading
to the kids?



FamilySailor August 25th 04 03:08 PM

Apparently, you think it's more important and fun to listen to crass
and cynical views, rather than be interested in the actual
issues. Clearly, Bu**** is uninterested.


If Bush would have started yelling about the partisan propaganda it would
have intensified ten-fold. Like it did with Kerry. They would have twisted
and using what he said in adds against him.

You are right "Clearly, Bu**** is uninterested" in the propaganda crap. And
I respect him for that. He does not need to waste his time correcting
partisan attacks. He will stand up when they are directed to others, but if
they are directed at him he just shrugs them off.



FamilySailor August 25th 04 03:14 PM

You don't have to link the Moore Movie to Kerry, just the DNC. The DNC are
the ones that nominated Kerry. It does not matter who they nominate. The DNC
had Moore as a big part of their convention. His movie is a big part of the
attack machine. Oh, and the DNC just happened to pick the wrong guy (Kerry).
I am so sorry about that (snicker, snicker...)

"Scott Vernon" wrote in message
...
anybody understand this?


some idiot wrote.....

Moore's film is how own work,









FamilySailor August 25th 04 03:17 PM

Actually neither man is an idiot. It is all frenzied campaign crap. You
are
just too bias and emotional like most ;o)


No, you're right. Bush is not an idiot. He's evil and cynical.


Thank you for making my point so clear! ;o)
Like I said "You are just too bias and emotional like most."



FamilySailor August 25th 04 03:30 PM


I'm not so sure. It's axiomatic that people will not elect anyone much
smarter than they are. This may be because they find his/her solutions to
issues hard to understand or that he/she seems to be an elitist. Worse

yet,
the same 'dumbing down' we've seen in schools for several decades now
affects the electorite. Thus anyone who appears smarter than a village
idiot will be rejected. One solution is to offer a real idiot, but one

wiser
party hacks can control. It's working for the GOP.

You and other liberals maybe, but not me or any conservative I know.

The proof comes when the ballon goes up. Consider Bush's reaction to 9-11.
Does he leap to the helm and take command of the situation? NO! He

finishes
reading to the kindergarten then allows his SS protectors to whisk him to
safety for a week while Chainey and Rumsfield handled the crisis. That

tells
me the good old boys from Halliburton are really in charge. But I

wonder -
did Bush really drool and say "What! Me worry?" before going back to

reading
to the kids?

Yea and Kerry sat there in a stupor for 40 minutes unable to speak. Yea he
is the Man for the job, hahahahaha
I bet you have no idea how active Bush was from his high tech mobile command
center aboard Air Force One.
Again take a small insignificant issue and twist it to make the basis for
you decision. Get real! Partisan propaganda. But, I guess that is all you
have.
Please quit showing you ignorance, my side is starting to hurt. You can not
seriously believe Bush was not doing anything. And, he has not stopped
since. I wonder how many times Kerry would have flip-flopped every time the
French, the UN or special interest groups objected to his decision. I was
against the war, before I was for the war, before I was against the war,
before...........




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