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It could have been a Canadian vessel..... ??
CM "katysails" wrote in message ... | No....the lake is 80 miles across at its' widest (if that) and is ringed | around with ports that are from 15 miles to 45 miles apart...everything is | well marked...you would have to be an absolute dunderhead to not know what | the next port is (unless you ran over from Wisconsin...but then you'd have | charts...or at least a GPS)...and a 36 ft motorboat is shallow draft enough | to run way in even if they didn't know how to navigate....I think Max's | scenario about seeing a lone woman cruising is probably the correct | one...and I find that scary...I do think Max should inform the CG that this | happened...just in case.... | | "Capt. Mooron" wrote in message | ... | You assume they had charts... ;-) | | "katysails" wrote in message | ... | | John...you cannot get lost on Lake Michigan. For Pete's sake, the ports | are | | marked on road maps. From what Max posted, I'm assuming he was coming | home | | from Pen****er to his home port...all the channels are clearly marked | and | | easily seen. The only difficult channels to find are farther north at | | Arcadia and Portage Lake, and even then, you always know Portage lake by | the | | cloud that hangs over it (it's a weird anomaly). | | "John Cairns" wrote in message | | . .. | | I think they were lost and didn't have the nerve to admit it. I never | | realized it until recently, but there are powerboaters out there that | hold | | sailors in some high regard. Several weeks ago I was distributing | | literature | | for our sail club at a marina about 25 miles south of here, pretty | small | | place with maybe about 40 slips, but there were 28 sailboats there. I | was | | walking to the sailboats and dropping the envelopes in the cockpits, a | | fisherman asked me what I was doing and I told him about the club, he | | asked | | me about the weather out on the lake! I was on foot, no indication | that | I | | had been out on the lake(Erie) or that I could possibly have any more | | information than he did on the subject. He asked me about the waves | that | | day, it was blowing maybe about 15kts. out of the west, he wanted to | know | | what I thought the waves might be like, he was on a smaller runabout, | | maybe | | 16'. I told him that the waves shouldn't be very big on this end of | the | | lake, the western end, without explaining that this is something he | should | | have been able to figure out. I really wouldn't be surprised if they | were | | lost and thought that you, as a sailor, would be able to help them | with | | directions, but in the end were to embarrassed to admit it. | | | | John Cairns | | | | | | Last Saturday, while returning home from a nearby port (35nm to the | | north) | | on Lake Michigan this happened to us when we were about 8nm from our | | port. | | I'll report the incident and let you all make your own judgments. | | | | It was a sunny day, 10kts. from the west, and we were making roughly | | 6kts. | | southbound, my wife at the helm. I'd just lain down on one of the | | cockpit | | seats when I heard the rumble of a couple of large gas engines | | throttling | | down. I peeked over the coaming to discover a go fast boat, | approaching | | from the rear, had slowed and nearly stopped about 30 yards off our | | starboard beam. I grabbed the binocs and took a look. The skipper | was | | a | | shaggy-looking middle-aged man dressed in a muscle shirt and his | three | | passengers were all younger men dressed in heavy, dark | | clothing--sweaters, | | dark pants, etc. Not exactly what one would expect for an afternoon | | outing | | on the old go-fast. All were standing in their boat, the Panama | Jeanne, | | about 38' long. They turned toward us and approached at slow speed, | | came | | up | | behind us, and stalked us for about 5 minutes. Then they pulled up | | along | | the port side. During this time I went below and obtained our 25mm | | flare | | gun, loaded it, and stuck two additional flares in my pocket. A lot | of | | good | | it would have done, but it made me feel that I was at least doing | | something. | | The skipper then yelled something to us. We asked him to repeat and | he | | inquired as to the distance and direction to our home port. We told | him | | 6 | | miles (a lie, but we could see the breakwalls of the channel in the | | distance). He then conferred with the other young men, and finally | | said, | | "You have a beautiful boat." I said, "Thanks." After stalking us | for | a | | while longer they finally drifted off to port (toward shore), idled | | along | | for another five minutes, then sped off to the south. | | | | The experience was unnerving, to say the least. It certainly makes | one | | feel | | vulnerable when traveling at 6kts. My take on this is that they | thought | | a | | single woman was traveling alone, and when they saw me they decided | to | | check | | things out further before reacting. It is possible they might have | | thought | | me armed, as my arm and hand were extended into the cabin, holding | the | | flare | | gun, while I was standing in the cockpit. | | | | OTOH it could have been innocent, but such behavior is certainly | | suspicious. | | | | What's your take? | | | | Max | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | |
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Nah....Canadian vessels ALWAYS fly honkin bit maple leafs off their
stern..... "Capt. Mooron" wrote in message ... It could have been a Canadian vessel..... ?? CM "katysails" wrote in message ... | No....the lake is 80 miles across at its' widest (if that) and is ringed | around with ports that are from 15 miles to 45 miles apart...everything is | well marked...you would have to be an absolute dunderhead to not know what | the next port is (unless you ran over from Wisconsin...but then you'd have | charts...or at least a GPS)...and a 36 ft motorboat is shallow draft enough | to run way in even if they didn't know how to navigate....I think Max's | scenario about seeing a lone woman cruising is probably the correct | one...and I find that scary...I do think Max should inform the CG that this | happened...just in case.... | | "Capt. Mooron" wrote in message | ... | You assume they had charts... ;-) | | "katysails" wrote in message | ... | | John...you cannot get lost on Lake Michigan. For Pete's sake, the ports | are | | marked on road maps. From what Max posted, I'm assuming he was coming | home | | from Pen****er to his home port...all the channels are clearly marked | and | | easily seen. The only difficult channels to find are farther north at | | Arcadia and Portage Lake, and even then, you always know Portage lake by | the | | cloud that hangs over it (it's a weird anomaly). | | "John Cairns" wrote in message | | . .. | | I think they were lost and didn't have the nerve to admit it. I never | | realized it until recently, but there are powerboaters out there that | hold | | sailors in some high regard. Several weeks ago I was distributing | | literature | | for our sail club at a marina about 25 miles south of here, pretty | small | | place with maybe about 40 slips, but there were 28 sailboats there. I | was | | walking to the sailboats and dropping the envelopes in the cockpits, a | | fisherman asked me what I was doing and I told him about the club, he | | asked | | me about the weather out on the lake! I was on foot, no indication | that | I | | had been out on the lake(Erie) or that I could possibly have any more | | information than he did on the subject. He asked me about the waves | that | | day, it was blowing maybe about 15kts. out of the west, he wanted to | know | | what I thought the waves might be like, he was on a smaller runabout, | | maybe | | 16'. I told him that the waves shouldn't be very big on this end of | the | | lake, the western end, without explaining that this is something he | should | | have been able to figure out. I really wouldn't be surprised if they | were | | lost and thought that you, as a sailor, would be able to help them | with | | directions, but in the end were to embarrassed to admit it. | | | | John Cairns | | | | | | Last Saturday, while returning home from a nearby port (35nm to the | | north) | | on Lake Michigan this happened to us when we were about 8nm from our | | port. | | I'll report the incident and let you all make your own judgments. | | | | It was a sunny day, 10kts. from the west, and we were making roughly | | 6kts. | | southbound, my wife at the helm. I'd just lain down on one of the | | cockpit | | seats when I heard the rumble of a couple of large gas engines | | throttling | | down. I peeked over the coaming to discover a go fast boat, | approaching | | from the rear, had slowed and nearly stopped about 30 yards off our | | starboard beam. I grabbed the binocs and took a look. The skipper | was | | a | | shaggy-looking middle-aged man dressed in a muscle shirt and his | three | | passengers were all younger men dressed in heavy, dark | | clothing--sweaters, | | dark pants, etc. Not exactly what one would expect for an afternoon | | outing | | on the old go-fast. All were standing in their boat, the Panama | Jeanne, | | about 38' long. They turned toward us and approached at slow speed, | | came | | up | | behind us, and stalked us for about 5 minutes. Then they pulled up | | along | | the port side. During this time I went below and obtained our 25mm | | flare | | gun, loaded it, and stuck two additional flares in my pocket. A lot | of | | good | | it would have done, but it made me feel that I was at least doing | | something. | | The skipper then yelled something to us. We asked him to repeat and | he | | inquired as to the distance and direction to our home port. We told | him | | 6 | | miles (a lie, but we could see the breakwalls of the channel in the | | distance). He then conferred with the other young men, and finally | | said, | | "You have a beautiful boat." I said, "Thanks." After stalking us | for | a | | while longer they finally drifted off to port (toward shore), idled | | along | | for another five minutes, then sped off to the south. | | | | The experience was unnerving, to say the least. It certainly makes | one | | feel | | vulnerable when traveling at 6kts. My take on this is that they | thought | | a | | single woman was traveling alone, and when they saw me they decided | to | | check | | things out further before reacting. It is possible they might have | | thought | | me armed, as my arm and hand were extended into the cabin, holding | the | | flare | | gun, while I was standing in the cockpit. | | | | OTOH it could have been innocent, but such behavior is certainly | | suspicious. | | | | What's your take? | | | | Max | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | |
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![]() "Capt. Mooron" wrote in message It could have been a Canadian vessel..... ?? Nah. They appeared sober. Max |
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![]() "Maxprop" wrote in message link.net... | | "Capt. Mooron" wrote in message | | It could have been a Canadian vessel..... ?? | | Nah. They appeared sober. Oh... well that would rule us out right away!! :-) CM |
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![]() "Capt. Mooron" wrote in message "Maxprop" wrote in message | "Capt. Mooron" wrote in message | | It could have been a Canadian vessel..... ?? | | Nah. They appeared sober. Oh... well that would rule us out right away!! :-) True. You can always spot a Canadian--face down in the clam dip. Max :-) |
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