http://www.cleveland.com/search/index.ssf?/base/ispol/109265583079530.xml?ispol

Not just a propaganda site, but mainstream media.

First hand account, not hearsay, rumor and innuendo.

Just the plain facts, not the distortions of the Swift Boat Liars.


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I'd certainly believe 250 vets vs the 5 Kerry drags around the country with
him. It would be pretty hard to get 250 individules to conspire to tell a lie
vs 5.
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On 22 Aug 2004 16:19:37 GMT, (SAIL LOCO) wrote:

I'd certainly believe 250 vets vs the 5 Kerry drags around the country with
him. It would be pretty hard to get 250 individules to conspire to tell a lie
vs 5.
S/V Express 30 "Ringmaster"
"Trains are a winter sport"


I believe the total number of Navy personnel who served in the Swift
Boats is something like 3500. I don't find it all that strange that
250 can be dredged up for something like this. There certainly were
not 250 individuals who served aboard Kerry's boat. Take John
O'Neill, for example, the head of this political lynch mob. He never
met John Kerry until after the war on the Dick Cavett show. Of
course, he is quick to point out his evidence...someone who wasn't
there was told by someone who claims to have been, none of which is
supported by these same folks previous statements or the official
records.

You are easily convinced Yeah, why should we believe the records,
the guys who served aboard Kerry's boat, Jim Rassman or even the
previous statements of these same guys who now have changed their
stories, again and again? Did you find these guys credible when they
were smearing John McCain in the last election?

Even McCain is calling for Bush to condemn the group's ads. So far
he hasn't done it.

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On 22 Aug 2004 16:19:37 GMT, (SAIL LOCO) wrote:

I'd certainly believe 250 vets vs the 5 Kerry drags around the country
with
him. It would be pretty hard to get 250 individules to conspire to tell
a lie
vs 5.
S/V Express 30 "Ringmaster"
"Trains are a winter sport"


I believe the total number of Navy personnel who served in the Swift
Boats is something like 3500. I don't find it all that strange that
250 can be dredged up for something like this. There certainly were
not 250 individuals who served aboard Kerry's boat. Take John
O'Neill, for example, the head of this political lynch mob. He never
met John Kerry until after the war on the Dick Cavett show. Of
course, he is quick to point out his evidence...someone who wasn't
there was told by someone who claims to have been, none of which is
supported by these same folks previous statements or the official
records.

You are easily convinced Yeah, why should we believe the records,
the guys who served aboard Kerry's boat, Jim Rassman or even the
previous statements of these same guys who now have changed their
stories, again and again? Did you find these guys credible when they
were smearing John McCain in the last election?

(SAIL LOCO) wrote:
I'd certainly believe 250 vets vs the 5 Kerry drags around the
country with
him. It would be pretty hard to get 250 individules to conspire to
tell a lie vs 5.

Not really. It's a question of motivation & background. Are Kerry's five
backed by a professional political hatchet studio? The "Swift Veterans
for Truth" are funded and organized 100% by a group that is the
Bush-Cheney teams top character assassins.

It's a question of what you want to believe. You and Dave & Bart & Joe
really really really want to believe all sorts of horrible things about
Kerry... he's bad, evil, communist, satanist, etc etc.

If you're OK with the likes Jerry Falwell & Rush Limbaugh telling you
what to think & how to vote, then OK... I prefer a bit more freedom,
personally.

DSK

On Sun, 22 Aug 2004 11:39:31 -0700, "Jonathan Ganz"
wrote this crap:

Even McCain is calling for Bush to condemn the group's ads. So far
he hasn't done it.


By PETE YOST, Associated Press Writer

CRAWFORD, Texas - Former Republican Sen. Bob Dole suggested Sunday
that John Kerry (news - web sites) apologize for past testimony before
Congress about alleged atrocities during the Vietnam War and joined
critics of the Democratic presidential candidate who say he received
an early exit from combat for "superficial wounds."

Dole also called on Kerry to release all the records of his service in
Vietnam.





Pathetic Earthlings! No one can save you now!

Horvath wrote:

By PETE YOST, Associated Press Writer

CRAWFORD, Texas - Former Republican Sen. Bob Dole suggested Sunday
that John Kerry (news - web sites) apologize for past testimony before
Congress about alleged atrocities during the Vietnam War and joined
critics of the Democratic presidential candidate who say he received
an early exit from combat for "superficial wounds."

Dole also called on Kerry to release all the records of his service in
Vietnam.

Since when did you start paying attention to losers?

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Horvath wrote:

By PETE YOST, Associated Press Writer

CRAWFORD, Texas - Former Republican Sen. Bob Dole suggested...

So when did you start paying attention to losers?

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You and Dave & Bart & Joe
really really really want to believe all sorts of horrible things about
Kerry... he's bad, evil, communist, satanist, etc etc..

Is it true or not that there is a memorial in HoChiMin City thanking J. Kerry
for helping end the war?
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SAIL LOCO wrote:

Is it true or not that there is a memorial in HoChiMin City thanking J. Kerry
for helping end the war?

If you believe the kooks at World Nut Daily, yes.

See: http://zapatopi.net/afdb.html

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