City Isld <--> BLock Isld
 

Re. a mini-cruiser single-handing sailing to/fm City Isld & Block
Island in mid-Sept. who wants reasonably long days traveling on the
water but would prefer a marina slip or at least a moorting rather
than anchoring, what's the "best" routes to/from in terms of
sights/accomodations?

If it becomes feasible to expand the trip to/fm Block Island, where's
the "best" place to go before returning to City Isld?

wrote in message
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| Re. a mini-cruiser single-handing sailing to/fm City Isld & Block
| Island in mid-Sept. who wants reasonably long days traveling on the
| water but would prefer a marina slip or at least a moorting rather
| than anchoring, what's the "best" routes to/from in terms of
| sights/accomodations?
|
| If it becomes feasible to expand the trip to/fm Block Island, where's
| the "best" place to go before returning to City Isld?

You should talk to Bobsprit on this... if there is anyone in NYC that is
more experienced with sailing day trips on the LIS with limited experience
and a non-existent skill-set...... you would be hard pressed to locate them.

For the sake of Safety....... please avoid any "advise" submitted by Jax.




CM

On Sat, 21 Aug 2004 14:08:09 -0300, something compelled "Capt.
Mooron" , to say:

For the sake of Safety....... please avoid any "advise" submitted by Jax.

It's "adviCe", dammit. Advise is a verb, what one does for
another. Advice is that which is given.

Although I'd agree, accepting either from JAX would be largely a
waste of time in the best case, dangerous in the worst.

especially if it's an electrical question.
Scout

"Capt. Mooron" wrote
[snip]
For the sake of Safety....... please avoid any "advise" submitted by Jax.

Typo Nazi!

CM

"Steve Daniels" wrote in message
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| On Sat, 21 Aug 2004 14:08:09 -0300, something compelled "Capt.
| Mooron" , to say:
|
| For the sake of Safety....... please avoid any "advise" submitted by Jax.
|
| It's "adviCe", dammit. Advise is a verb, what one does for
| another. Advice is that which is given.
|
| Although I'd agree, accepting either from JAX would be largely a
| waste of time in the best case, dangerous in the worst.

if you're thinking of reasonable distance in a day sail, port jeff on the
long island side is a reasonable half way point.
if port jeff is not doable , try northport.
both have good accomodations.

buy a crusing guide for long island sound

if you went on from block island, you could try cutty hunk.

gf.

wrote in message
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Re. a mini-cruiser single-handing sailing to/fm City Isld & Block
Island in mid-Sept. who wants reasonably long days traveling on the
water but would prefer a marina slip or at least a moorting rather
than anchoring, what's the "best" routes to/from in terms of
sights/accomodations?

If it becomes feasible to expand the trip to/fm Block Island, where's
the "best" place to go before returning to City Isld?

port jeff on the
long island side is a reasonable half way point.
if port jeff is not doable

port jeff is a long haul for sailing the usual winds of LIS. it is also a
long, long haul for sailing the usual winds of LIS and Block Island Sound.
There is no reasonable anchorage on Long Island between PJ and BI (Mt Sinai is
too close to PJ to be all that useful, and Matituck Inlet is reported to be
awfully shoal in spots these days).

It is 120 miles CI to BI. If you get lucky and get winds out of the North
(usually 15 knots or more) you can sail it in two days, either direction.
Three days can be easier, unless you wanna push the throttle forward quite a
bit. Also, watch the currents at The Race. They can be seriously against you.

If you stop at nortport you will have to stop in CT the next day.

"Scout" wrote in message ...
especially if it's an electrical question.
Scout

And especially do not ask Jax about navigation.
Joe



"Capt. Mooron" wrote
[snip]
For the sake of Safety....... please avoid any "advise" submitted by Jax.

"Capt. Mooron" wrote in message ...

You should talk to Bobsprit on this... if there is anyone in NYC that is
more experienced with sailing day trips on the LIS with limited experience
and a non-existent skill-set...... you would be hard pressed to locate them.

Yes! Bobspit know were ever underwater rock is!

Joe



For the sake of Safety....... please avoid any "advise" submitted by Jax.




CM

You might want to start by studying some charts.

Eastern Long Island Sound, and Western Long Island Sound.

Estimate how much ground you can cover in a day, based
on the speed of your boat, and pick places based on that.

On the western end, the Long Island side is nice. There are
no harbors on the north east shore of Long Island until you get
to the claw.

Most of Connecticut is beautiful. Fishers Island Sound is gorgeous.

wrote

Re. a mini-cruiser single-handing sailing to/fm City Isld & Block
Island in mid-Sept. who wants reasonably long days traveling on the
water but would prefer a marina slip or at least a moorting rather
than anchoring, what's the "best" routes to/from in terms of
sights/accomodations?

If it becomes feasible to expand the trip to/fm Block Island, where's
the "best" place to go before returning to City Isld?

There are a fair # of cruisng guides out there, Boat/US and West Marine
carry these items, should be available in your local stores, if you're
serious about cruisng in your area a purchase of one would be a good
investment.
John Cairns
wrote in message
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Re. a mini-cruiser single-handing sailing to/fm City Isld & Block
Island in mid-Sept. who wants reasonably long days traveling on the
water but would prefer a marina slip or at least a moorting rather
than anchoring, what's the "best" routes to/from in terms of
sights/accomodations?

If it becomes feasible to expand the trip to/fm Block Island, where's
the "best" place to go before returning to City Isld?

On Sat, 21 Aug 2004 15:24:04 -0300, something compelled "Capt.
Mooron" , to say:

Typo Nazi!

It wasn't a typo, you've done it in two separate posts.

Lying, top posting, *******.

"Steve Daniels" wrote in message
.. .
| On Sat, 21 Aug 2004 14:08:09 -0300, something compelled "Capt.
| Mooron" , to say:
|
| For the sake of Safety....... please avoid any "advise" submitted by Jax.
|
| It's "adviCe", dammit. Advise is a verb, what one does for
| another. Advice is that which is given.
|
| Although I'd agree, accepting either from JAX would be largely a
| waste of time in the best case, dangerous in the worst.

Yes it was a typo... you goose stepping Gestapo!
I haven't done it in two separate posts... and I never top post.. so there!
CM


"Steve Daniels" wrote in message
...
| On Sat, 21 Aug 2004 15:24:04 -0300, something compelled "Capt.
| Mooron" , to say:
|
| Typo Nazi!
|
| It wasn't a typo, you've done it in two separate posts.
|
| Lying, top posting, *******.
|
| "Steve Daniels" wrote in message
| .. .
| | On Sat, 21 Aug 2004 14:08:09 -0300, something compelled "Capt.
| | Mooron" , to say:
| |
| | For the sake of Safety....... please avoid any "advise" submitted by
Jax.
| |
| | It's "adviCe", dammit. Advise is a verb, what one does for
| | another. Advice is that which is given.
| |
| | Although I'd agree, accepting either from JAX would be largely a
| | waste of time in the best case, dangerous in the worst.
|
|

bill, knock it the frick off. you are NOT part of this discussion at all. you
have nothing to contribute. go away.




Date: 8/22/2004 8:24 PM Eastern Daylight Time
Message-id:

On Sat, 21 Aug 2004 16:50:12 GMT, wrote:


Re. a mini-cruiser single-handing sailing to/fm City Isld & Block
Island in mid-Sept. who wants reasonably long days traveling on the
water but would prefer a marina slip or at least a moorting rather
than anchoring, what's the "best" routes to/from in terms of
sights/accomodations?

If it becomes feasible to expand the trip to/fm Block Island, where's
the "best" place to go before returning to City Isld?


How about a more concrete description of the boat, and what you mean by a
long
day's sail.

How much sailing have you done?

Are we talking about a 15-20 footer that can't make any headway to windward
if
the seas are more than 2 feet, and averages less than 4 knots in ideal
conditions?

How much time do you have?

Can you motor against a 5 knot current if necessary?

There are certainly cruises you can take with a small boat, but it would be
planned a lot differently than what you might do with a larger boat.


BB

"JAXAshby" wrote in message
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| bill, knock it the frick off. you are NOT part of this discussion at all.
you
| have nothing to contribute. go away.

Cripes jaxxies...... have you taken leave of your senses?

Wait... what am I saying... Bwaahahahahahahahaaa!!

CM

apparently, Jaxie is wrong ~~~~ AGAIN


"JAXAshby" wrote in message
...
bill, knock it the frick off. you are NOT part of this discussion at all.
you
have nothing to contribute. go away.




Date: 8/22/2004 8:24 PM Eastern Daylight Time
Message-id:

On Sat, 21 Aug 2004 16:50:12 GMT, wrote:


Re. a mini-cruiser single-handing sailing to/fm City Isld & Block
Island in mid-Sept. who wants reasonably long days traveling on the
water but would prefer a marina slip or at least a moorting rather
than anchoring, what's the "best" routes to/from in terms of
sights/accomodations?

If it becomes feasible to expand the trip to/fm Block Island, where's
the "best" place to go before returning to City Isld?


How about a more concrete description of the boat, and what you mean by a
long
day's sail.

How much sailing have you done?

Are we talking about a 15-20 footer that can't make any headway to
windward
if
the seas are more than 2 feet, and averages less than 4 knots in ideal
conditions?

How much time do you have?

Can you motor against a 5 knot current if necessary?

There are certainly cruises you can take with a small boat, but it would
be
planned a lot differently than what you might do with a larger boat.


BB

no wait CM, give him a chance to look up what MIT has to say about LIS.
Scout

"Capt. Mooron" wrote in message
...

"JAXAshby" wrote in message
...
| bill, knock it the frick off. you are NOT part of this discussion at
all.
you
| have nothing to contribute. go away.

Cripes jaxxies...... have you taken leave of your senses?

Wait... what am I saying... Bwaahahahahahahahaaa!!

CM

bill you ain't never seen any part of LIS. *if* had seen anything, you would
not make the posts you do, even if you were as drunk as moron.


Date: 8/22/2004 10:14 PM Eastern Daylight Time
Message-id:

On 23 Aug 2004 01:51:01 GMT, (JAXAshby) wrote:

bill, knock it the frick off. you are NOT part of this discussion at all.
you
have nothing to contribute. go away.


Nothing to contribute? Well for starters, I can point out to those who
haven't
realized it yet, that you are a jackass with no actual practical experience
in
any field other than bull****ting.

During the spring, summer, and fall, I spend a fair amount of time cruising
all
over the LIS and surrounding areas. Rides on the ferry don't count, so that
leaves you completely out.

BB





Date: 8/22/2004 8:24 PM Eastern Daylight Time
Message-id:

On Sat, 21 Aug 2004 16:50:12 GMT, wrote:


Re. a mini-cruiser single-handing sailing to/fm City Isld & Block
Island in mid-Sept. who wants reasonably long days traveling on the
water but would prefer a marina slip or at least a moorting rather
than anchoring, what's the "best" routes to/from in terms of
sights/accomodations?

If it becomes feasible to expand the trip to/fm Block Island, where's
the "best" place to go before returning to City Isld?


How about a more concrete description of the boat, and what you mean by a
long
day's sail.

How much sailing have you done?

Are we talking about a 15-20 footer that can't make any headway to
windward
if
the seas are more than 2 feet, and averages less than 4 knots in ideal
conditions?

How much time do you have?

Can you motor against a 5 knot current if necessary?

There are certainly cruises you can take with a small boat, but it would be
planned a lot differently than what you might do with a larger boat.


BB

How much sailing have you done?

Are we talking about a 15-20 footer that can't make any headway to
windward
if
the seas are more than 2 feet, and averages less than 4 knots in ideal

scruddy dood, I personally know a guy with a 19 foot day sailor who has gone CI
to BI and back perhaps as many as a dozen times. I am not sure he remembers
how many times. Ain't no big thing, except to a bathtub sailor.

Bwahahahahahahahahaaaa!!!

CM

"Scout" wrote in message
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| no wait CM, give him a chance to look up what MIT has to say about LIS.
| Scout
|
| "Capt. Mooron" wrote in message
| ...
|
| "JAXAshby" wrote in message
| ...
| | bill, knock it the frick off. you are NOT part of this discussion at
| all.
| you
| | have nothing to contribute. go away.
|
| Cripes jaxxies...... have you taken leave of your senses?
|
| Wait... what am I saying... Bwaahahahahahahahaaa!!
|
| CM
|
|
|
|

"JAXAshby" wrote in message
...
| bill you ain't never seen any part of LIS. *if* had seen anything, you
would
| not make the posts you do, even if you were as drunk as moron.

Flattery will get you nowhere jaxxies!

CM

ngtr,

I've been away from LIS for over fifty years but if your looking to see
new sailing grounds the Peconic Sound use to be a very pleasant place.
Greenport, thru Plum Gut can be damn interesting with some good
Restaurants and a good Chandlery. Sag Harbor good marina as well as
Greenport's and a Whaling Museum. Also good food and chance to stretch
your legs.

I give Jax full permission to edit this post due to my time away from
the Sound and my aging memory.

Good sailing

Ole Thom

t if your looking to see
new sailing grounds the Peconic Sound use to be a very pleasant place.
Greenport, thru Plum Gut can be damn interesting with some good
Restaurants and a good Chandlery. Sag Harbor good marina as well as
Greenport's and a Whaling Museum. Also good food an

the Peconic is shallow, and with strong currents. I enjoy Greenport, but you
gotta tie up to a mooring (meaning YOU want to). Sag Harbor I have not
enjoyed. pretenious to say the least.

billie, that guy has also sailed his 19 foot daysailor to Boston and back,
twice.

I also know a woman who crossed LIS from CT to Plum Gut on a Thistle. She just
got back from a trip to the Maritimes in a small cruiser (well under 30 feet).
The only real issues going CI to BI is the currents through The Race (they need
to be timed for best transport) and some attention to the wind direction when
crossing BI Sound.

This ain't a North Atlantic crossing in January. It is just a nice trip.

How much sailing have you done?

Are we talking about a 15-20 footer that can't make any headway to
windward
if
the seas are more than 2 feet, and averages less than 4 knots in ideal

scruddy dood, I personally know a guy with a 19 foot day sailor who has gone
CI
to BI and back perhaps as many as a dozen times. I am not sure he remembers
how many times. Ain't no big thing, except to a bathtub sailor.

Jax, you are living up to your reputation. I did not even come close to
saying
that you can't cruise the LIS in a small boat. As a teen, I cruised it
extensively in a 14 foot bluejay with a tarp over the boom for shelter.

The poster asked about cruising the length of the LIS in what he called a
"mini-cruiser". I asked a few pertinent questions, because the answers will
change my advice of route and places to consider for stopping along the way.
Since you have never sailed, knowing what sort of boat he actually has, and
how
much time for the trip, won't help you answer intelligently anyway.

The answers to his query cannot be found with google, so you may as well shut
up
now and go back to your kiddy porn.

BB

hey, bill, cut the guy a break. Gardiner's Bay or Block Island Sound, or
whatever. It *is* the Peconic Bay (actually two bays, but what the hey) and
both Greenport AND Sag Harbor are on the edge of the Peconic.

t if your looking to see
new sailing grounds the Peconic Sound use to be a very pleasant place.
Greenport, thru Plum Gut can be damn interesting with some good
Restaurants and a good Chandlery. Sag Harbor good marina as well as
Greenport's and a Whaling Museum. Also good food an

the Peconic is shallow, and with strong currents. I enjoy Greenport, but
you
gotta tie up to a mooring (meaning YOU want to). Sag Harbor I have not
enjoyed. pretenious to say the least.

There is no such place as the Peconic Sound. Any sailor who has been
there would know that.

BB

On 23 Aug 2004 12:18:20 GMT, (JAXAshby) wrote this
crap:

billie, that guy has also sailed his 19 foot daysailor to Boston and back,
twice.

I also know a woman who crossed LIS from CT to Plum Gut on a Thistle. She just
got back from a trip to the Maritimes in a small cruiser (well under 30 feet).
The only real issues going CI to BI is the currents through The Race (they need
to be timed for best transport) and some attention to the wind direction when
crossing BI Sound.


I once crossed the Atlantic on a raft made out of toothpicks, in
December. Uphill, all the way. Twice.





Pathetic Earthlings! No one can save you now!

So, deciding a ----------------- route ------------------

on LIS???? What a hoot! Let's see, should I take the Great Polar Route or the
Southern Cross Rooote or the Majestic Central Meander Rout/oot?

and where to stop over will be the same
regardless of whether he can make 20 miles per day or 60? Okay.

of course. LIS ain't that wide. Pick your anchorage by where you are when you
want to anchor. Ain't no big thing.


BB

I once crossed the Atlantic on a raft made out of toothpicks, in
December. Uphill, all the way. Twice.

and, on LSD to boot.

Horvath, LIS ain't that bad. Even if britchy bill can't remember the
reputation LIS has for excessive high winds 364 days a year.

Yeah, you're really impressive.

BB

sorry to have embarrassed you, britchy bill. I really think it ordinary stuff.
didn't mean to show you up.

Horvath wrote:

I once crossed the Atlantic on a raft made out of toothpicks, in
December. Uphill, all the way. Twice.

That would be the Atlantic Gentleman's Club on Sylvania Avenue in
Toledo, Ohio.

Cost twice as much as a lap dance, but I'm sure it was worth it.

--
// Walt
//
// There is no Volkl Conspiracy

but you *did* say I am impressive when I was showing you, even though I wasn't
even trying either.


Yeah, you're really impressive.

BB

sorry to have embarrassed you, britchy bill. I really think it ordinary
stuff.
didn't mean to show you up.


You didn't.

BB

Let us know if you ever get within 1000 feet of the LIS.

two hours ago. In fact, I am a long stone's throw of the East River right now.

interesting
the former owner of my boat left this guide on board
the "new guide" does not compare
written like crap.......i'll try to remember to get the name of both.
gf.

"Dave" wrote in message
...
On Sun, 22 Aug 2004 07:13:44 GMT, "John Cairns"
said:

There are a fair # of cruisng guides out there, Boat/US and West Marine
carry these items, should be available in your local stores, if you're
serious about cruisng in your area a purchase of one would be a good
investment.

Which are recommended? Years ago, there was a terrific "Cruising Guide to
Long Island Sound" written by a couple with a 23' wooden boat called Pee
Gee. Haven't seen anything comparable recently.

you know jax
you are very right
LIS ain't no big deal
it is an easy sail from anywhere to anywhere
that is what makes sailing LIS so great

gf.


"JAXAshby" wrote in message
...
So, deciding a ----------------- route ------------------

on LIS???? What a hoot! Let's see, should I take the Great Polar Route or
the
Southern Cross Rooote or the Majestic Central Meander Rout/oot?

and where to stop over will be the same
regardless of whether he can make 20 miles per day or 60? Okay.

of course. LIS ain't that wide. Pick your anchorage by where you are
when you
want to anchor. Ain't no big thing.


BB

OK BB,

I stand corrected . Great Peconic Bay, Little Peconic Bay, Gardiners
Bay.

I have to admit we called them the Peconics, when I live in Northville .
Jax is also correct. The Great Peconic Bay is damn shallow. Gardiners is
the only Bay with any depth inside Montauk and Orient

It's been so long ago. I should and will stay out of LIS discussions

Ole Thom

yeah, and anywhere you sail to is an interesting place to visit.

you know jax
you are very right
LIS ain't no big deal
it is an easy sail from anywhere to anywhere
that is what makes sailing LIS so great

gf.


"JAXAshby" wrote in message
...
So, deciding a ----------------- route ------------------

on LIS???? What a hoot! Let's see, should I take the Great Polar Route or
the
Southern Cross Rooote or the Majestic Central Meander Rout/oot?

and where to stop over will be the same
regardless of whether he can make 20 miles per day or 60? Okay.

of course. LIS ain't that wide. Pick your anchorage by where you are
when you
want to anchor. Ain't no big thing.


BB

Shallow may not matter to the original poster. He described his boat as a
"mini-cruiser". It's quite possible that it is a trailer boat with a
centerboard.

not likely. if he had a trailer sailor he wanted to get to BI, he would tailer
it to somewhere close in CT or RI and daysail it over.

btw, centerboard boats typically draw more than fixed keel boats. but you knew
that, didn't you bill?

Meanwhile I have sailed on the LIS
every evening this week including this evening. I'll be out there tomorrow,
too.

BB

so how come you haven't figured out the LIS isn't wide enough to require "route
planning" yet? kinda dense are you?

Sorta like the dense that thinks Riverside Drive (note the capitalization) runs
along the East River??

Driving on Riverside drive is not sailing, any more than the East River is
the
LIS

nice, billie. you got out the charts. and they scared you.

btw, Mattituck Inlet, if you draw less than 4-1/2. but I said that already.




Meanwhile I have sailed on the LIS
every evening this week including this evening. I'll be out there tomorrow,
too.

BB

so how come you haven't figured out the LIS isn't wide enough to require
"route
planning" yet? kinda dense are you?


So, once again, I ask you to tell us how wide the LIS is...

You don't know, do you?

Meanwhile, when planning a cruise from City Island to Block Island in
a small sailboat, is there only one possible route? Would you go
inside or outside Fisher's Island? How about Duck Island Roads? Lord's
Passage looks like a great shortcut from one particular area to
another particular area. Is it? Do you need to take tides into
consideration when sailing anywhere between City Island and Block
Island? Where would you anchor on Long Island's North shore between
Mount Sinai and Plum Gut? According to your posts so far, you claim
that you can anchor anywhere you happen to be when you feel like
stopping.

You are a joke, but not the funny sort. You'd need a personality for
starters.

BB

So, once again, I ask you to tell us how wide the LIS is...

about 40 minutes.

Meanwhile, when planning a cruise from City Island to Block Island in
a small sailboat, is there only one possible route? Would you go
inside or outside Fisher's Island? How about Duck Island Roads? Lord's
Passage looks like a great shortcut from one particular area to
another particular area. Is it? Do you need to take tides into
consideration when sailing anywhere between City Island and Block
Island? Where would you anchor on Long Island's North shore between
Mount Sinai and Plum Gut? According to your posts so far, you claim
that you can anchor anywhere you happen to be when you feel like
stopping.

You are a joke, but not the funny sort. You'd need a personality for
starters.

BB