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felton August 20th 04 11:48 PM

Kerry to win the old fashioned American way
 
On 20 Aug 2004 17:44:12 -0500, Dave wrote:

By suing.

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmp...1506&ncid=2043


Or by exposing the truth? Why so worried, Dave? I think it is time
to lift some of those rocks and see who scurries out.

Jonathan Ganz August 21st 04 12:24 AM

I'm sure that the experts like O'Reilly would be able to give him some
advice about when to sue and when not to.

The Swiftboat for the Untruth will quickly collapse under their own
lying weight.

In article ,
Dave wrote:
The hell with voting. Let's just bring on the lawyers and let them fight it
out. And may the best lawyers win.


You're right about the to hell with voting part. Bush and company are
again trying to disenfranchise voters in Florida.
--
Jonathan Ganz (j gan z @ $ail no w.c=o=m)
http://www.sailnow.com
"If there's no wind, row."


Joe August 21st 04 04:43 AM

felton wrote in message . ..
On 20 Aug 2004 17:44:12 -0500, Dave wrote:

By suing.

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmp...1506&ncid=2043


Or by exposing the truth? Why so worried, Dave? I think it is time
to lift some of those rocks and see who scurries out.



Yelp, The swift boat guys are showing Kerry in his own voice stabbing
his fellow sailors in the back. Thats the truth. His lawsuit will be
laughed out of court.

4mo=3purple hearts+a bronze star+ a Silver Star -----Yeah right..
super hero to Jane Hanoi fonda maybe, everone else can see right thru
it...

Joe

felton August 21st 04 06:07 AM

On 20 Aug 2004 20:43:17 -0700, (Joe) wrote:

felton wrote in message . ..
On 20 Aug 2004 17:44:12 -0500, Dave wrote:

By suing.

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmp...1506&ncid=2043


Or by exposing the truth? Why so worried, Dave? I think it is time
to lift some of those rocks and see who scurries out.



Yelp, The swift boat guys are showing Kerry in his own voice stabbing
his fellow sailors in the back. Thats the truth. His lawsuit will be
laughed out of court.


So basically you are admitting that your grudge with Kerry is his
anti-war stance taken AFTER he served. Well, some folks are slow
learners. Most people know what a huge cluster **** that war was.
Kerry was there. Bush wasn't. He has every right to express his
opinion.

4mo=3purple hearts+a bronze star+ a Silver Star -----Yeah right..
super hero to Jane Hanoi fonda maybe, everone else can see right thru
it...

Joe




SAIL LOCO August 21st 04 06:31 AM

He has every right to express his
opinion.

In my opinion he made himself look like a liar in his attempt to fool the
public at the time.
Facts:
Kerry said he and others committed atrocities which consisted of:
1. Firing in free fire zones. DUH, well that's what you do in a free fire
zone.
2. Participated in harrassment and interdiction fire. That's a common
military tactic which consisted in Vietnam of firing shells during the night at
known VC supply trails. Nothing wrong with that. We spent every night on the
destroyer I was on doing the same thing.
3. Shooting the enemy with 50 cal. machine guns. When your being shot at you
shoot back with whatever you have. I don't get that. I guess when you toss a
granede at the enemy that's really bad.
S/V Express 30 "Ringmaster"
"Trains are a winter sport"

felton August 21st 04 06:53 AM

On 21 Aug 2004 05:31:31 GMT, (SAIL LOCO) wrote:

He has every right to express his
opinion.

In my opinion he made himself look like a liar in his attempt to fool the
public at the time.
Facts:
Kerry said he and others committed atrocities which consisted of:
1. Firing in free fire zones. DUH, well that's what you do in a free fire
zone.
2. Participated in harrassment and interdiction fire. That's a common
military tactic which consisted in Vietnam of firing shells during the night at
known VC supply trails. Nothing wrong with that. We spent every night on the
destroyer I was on doing the same thing.
3. Shooting the enemy with 50 cal. machine guns. When your being shot at you
shoot back with whatever you have. I don't get that. I guess when you toss a
granede at the enemy that's really bad.
S/V Express 30 "Ringmaster"
"Trains are a winter sport"


The one relevant fact left out of the new smear ad against Kerry
quoting his testimony about Viet Nam is that he made clear, in HIS
testimony, that he was repeating the testimony of others. He wasn't
making the claims, he was repeating the charges.

His original testimony began with the phrase..."they said". That was
conveniently ommitted from the Lying Republican Swift Boat Vets ad.
They made it appear that he was the source of the charges, when he
wasn't.

Kerry was trying to stop the war. In case you weren't around, so were
most Americans by the 1970s. He was trying to put an end to that sad
chapter in our history and his efforts probably saved Americans and
Vietnamese if the war was shortened by one day.

Face it. He went, he served, he was right and this new ad is as
dishonest as the last. If you enjoy beling lied to, vote Republican.

Horvath August 21st 04 03:17 PM

On 20 Aug 2004 16:24:32 -0700, (Jonathan
Ganz) wrote this crap:

I'm sure that the experts like O'Reilly would be able to give him some
advice about when to sue and when not to.

The Swiftboat for the Untruth will quickly collapse under their own
lying weight.



They're becoming more popular than ever. OTOH, Michael Moore is
collapsing under his own weight.





Pathetic Earthlings! No one can save you now!

DSK August 21st 04 08:52 PM

Dave wrote:

By suing.

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmp...1506&ncid=2043

Fascinating. First they try to silence the vets by threatening to sue any
outlet carrying their ads.


You're a lawyer, doesn't it make perfect sense to you?


When that doesn't work they try to suppress the book by threatening its
publishers.


I don't know of any attempts to suppress any book... last time I looked
it was languishing on the bargain table at Barns & Noble.


The hell with voting.


Yep, that's exactly the way Bush & Cheney feel about it.

DSK


SAIL LOCO August 21st 04 10:38 PM

His original testimony began with the phrase..."they said". That was
conveniently ommitted from the Lying Republican Swift Boat Vets ad.
They made it appear that he was the source of the charges, when he
wasn't.

I've listened to complete recordings and Kerry says "I did this or that"
S/V Express 30 "Ringmaster"
"Trains are a winter sport"

SAIL LOCO August 21st 04 10:40 PM

I'm predicting that with all this publicity about Swift boats they will become
the Hummer of the waterways.
S/V Express 30 "Ringmaster"
"Trains are a winter sport"


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