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Scott Vernon August 22nd 04 02:34 PM


OooooozeOne wrote


Pity radar can't show the tall grass that fouls my prop while

docking .


Oz1...of the 3 twins.

I welcome you to crackerbox palace,We've been expecting you.




otnmbrd August 22nd 04 06:53 PM

Bart,
I don't care if you're a "seasonal weekend warrior" or "daily
professional", "sailor" or "powerboater". The only way you will become
proficient with radar, is to use it.
Probably one of the best ways to learn that is to use it during clear,
daylight conditions where you can easily compare what you see visually
with what is on your screen.
The person who thinks that by simply installing radar and having it they
are now a "qualified" operator of radar and only uses it when they
"NEED" to, is an accident waiting to happen.
Understanding how radar works, is one thing. Knowing how to use it and
being proficient at using it, is another.

G off the soapbox

otn


Bart Senior wrote:
Spoken like a powerboater who "needs" radar on a sunny day.
You only need to run it once in a while, and understand how it
works. Most power boaters run it constantly for ego gratification.

"otnmbrd" wrote


The point I'd stress, is "practice". Don't just use the radar when
conditions are bad. You need to use it frequently when conditions are
good, so that you learn to interpret what you see .... probably the
biggest problem most recreational (and a lot of professional) boaters
have using radar.





Bart Senior August 23rd 04 02:55 AM

Right, but you don't need to run it every day!

"otnmbrd" wrote

Bart,
I don't care if you're a "seasonal weekend warrior" or "daily
professional", "sailor" or "powerboater". The only way you will become
proficient with radar, is to use it.
Probably one of the best ways to learn that is to use it during clear,
daylight conditions where you can easily compare what you see visually
with what is on your screen.
The person who thinks that by simply installing radar and having it they
are now a "qualified" operator of radar and only uses it when they
"NEED" to, is an accident waiting to happen.
Understanding how radar works, is one thing. Knowing how to use it and
being proficient at using it, is another.

G off the soapbox

otn




otnmbrd August 23rd 04 04:54 AM

Why not? It's a tool that can help/backup navigation or vessel traffic.
If you're onboard systems can handle it, turn it on. Even if you don't
look at it all day, it was there and ready if you needed it.
Do you leave your GPS turned off until you need it?

otn

Bart Senior wrote:
Right, but you don't need to run it every day!

"otnmbrd" wrote


Bart,
I don't care if you're a "seasonal weekend warrior" or "daily
professional", "sailor" or "powerboater". The only way you will become
proficient with radar, is to use it.
Probably one of the best ways to learn that is to use it during clear,
daylight conditions where you can easily compare what you see visually
with what is on your screen.
The person who thinks that by simply installing radar and having it they
are now a "qualified" operator of radar and only uses it when they
"NEED" to, is an accident waiting to happen.
Understanding how radar works, is one thing. Knowing how to use it and
being proficient at using it, is another.

G off the soapbox

otn





Capt. Mooron August 23rd 04 05:05 AM


"otnmbrd" wrote in message
| Do you leave your GPS turned off until you need it?

Yeah!..... friggin' batteries cost money!

I understand it's of no concern to you guys... since the few times you are
actually on the bridge you don't really pay any atention to the
instruments.... or anything else unless it's of equal size to your ship.

CM




Bart Senior August 23rd 04 01:21 PM

Yes, most of the time I leave my GPS off until I need it. I leave
it on, when on the ocean as a safety in case of a man overboard
to reverse my track. Under most conditions I leave it off unless
I am checking a range or bearing.

"otnmbrd" wrote

Why not? It's a tool that can help/backup navigation or vessel traffic.
If you're onboard systems can handle it, turn it on. Even if you don't
look at it all day, it was there and ready if you needed it.
Do you leave your GPS turned off until you need it?

otn

Bart Senior wrote:


Right, but you don't need to run it every day!

"otnmbrd" wrote
Bart,
I don't care if you're a "seasonal weekend warrior" or "daily
professional", "sailor" or "powerboater". The only way you will become
proficient with radar, is to use it.




otnmbrd August 23rd 04 06:35 PM

Nah, we have to pay close attention nowadays. The price of "Boottop" and
bottom paint has gone sky-high and the front office frowns on us gett'n
scratches in it.

otn

Capt. Mooron wrote:
"otnmbrd" wrote in message
| Do you leave your GPS turned off until you need it?

Yeah!..... friggin' batteries cost money!

I understand it's of no concern to you guys... since the few times you are
actually on the bridge you don't really pay any atention to the
instruments.... or anything else unless it's of equal size to your ship.

CM




otnmbrd August 23rd 04 06:42 PM

G Again, I'd say, why, but I also understand that resources of
electrical power vary from boat to boat and must be a consideration.
However, the jist of what I'm saying is that a high percentage of us get
limited time underway, whether it's seasonal or year round, and the best
way to keep current or improve our abilities with this equipment, is to
use it as frequently as possible in as many ways, as possible.

otn

Bart Senior wrote:
Yes, most of the time I leave my GPS off until I need it. I leave
it on, when on the ocean as a safety in case of a man overboard
to reverse my track. Under most conditions I leave it off unless
I am checking a range or bearing.

"otnmbrd" wrote


Why not? It's a tool that can help/backup navigation or vessel traffic.
If you're onboard systems can handle it, turn it on. Even if you don't
look at it all day, it was there and ready if you needed it.
Do you leave your GPS turned off until you need it?

otn

Bart Senior wrote:



Right, but you don't need to run it every day!

"otnmbrd" wrote

Bart,
I don't care if you're a "seasonal weekend warrior" or "daily
professional", "sailor" or "powerboater". The only way you will become
proficient with radar, is to use it.






Joe August 24th 04 12:48 AM

"Bart Senior" wrote in message et...
Spoken like a powerboater who "needs" radar on a sunny day.



I disagree bart,

You speak like a siaor that never sail in bad weather that included
heavy fog.
One of the smartest thing you can do is learn the radar picture like
the back of your hand. Once that is done then I agree, no since
running it all the time.


You only need to run it once in a while, and understand how it
works.


Not so, you need to know every dock, bouy, landmark by radar if you
have it. Once you learn all that then feel free to turn it off when
not needed.


Most power boaters run it constantly for ego gratification.

Some do, and most likely they do not even look at the picture, they
just think it looks cool to have the scanner spinning. But a
professional learns to get the most out of his radar when it is truly
needed.

Joe




"otnmbrd" wrote

The point I'd stress, is "practice". Don't just use the radar when
conditions are bad. You need to use it frequently when conditions are
good, so that you learn to interpret what you see .... probably the
biggest problem most recreational (and a lot of professional) boaters
have using radar.


Joe August 24th 04 12:52 AM

(Shen44) wrote in message ...
Excellent Advise...... even though we all know you are usually down in the
engine room playing crib while the Wheel House sits unmanned! ;-)

CM



Well I have found the wheelhouse chairs are the best to catch up on a
long needed nap. Thats what the radar range alarm is for.

Joe




Nah. Too bloody noisy down there.
We play in the "lounge" ..... where we have wired the alarms from the radar and
AIS to a bell. G

Shen



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