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Scout August 21st 04 04:04 PM

I'm not a fan of the squirty cheese. Well, maybe on fries, but I like my
philly steaks with American cheese.
Scout

"gonefishiing" wrote in message
...
yes but do they serve squirty cheese?
gf.

"Scout" wrote in message
...
I have to go with Cracker Barrel when I'm down South. We were in South
Carolina a few weeks ago and had a great breakfast at CB. They had real
Vermont syrup. God bless America.
Scout







Bart Senior August 22nd 04 05:16 AM

It looks like it was the electric pump that caused the
problem. I took it out and the engine ran fine for a long
time today.




Jonathan Ganz August 22nd 04 05:31 AM

Horass would be lost... no dumpsters to dive.

In article ,
Horvath wrote:
On Sat, 21 Aug 2004 10:54:51 GMT, "Scout"
wrote this crap:

I have to go with Cracker Barrel when I'm down South. We were in South
Carolina a few weeks ago and had a great breakfast at CB. They had real
Vermont syrup. God bless America.



Don't they have any Hooters there?


--
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"If there's no wind, row."


katysails August 22nd 04 08:17 PM

There's a Bimmer in our garage....but there's also an Oldsmobile that was
made just down the xway in Lansing....we bought the Bimmer in MI from
Michiganders...


"Scout" wrote in message
...
I couldn't say; are there any imported cars on your street?
Scout

"katysails" wrote
Why would you import someone else's produce when you're a leading
agricultural state (although some places do, but Michigan stuff is

better
and cheaper) It would be like eating Washington apples or Maine
potatoes...Michigan is a leader in both industries...also, why would a
Michigander eat cane sugar when we grow sugar beets? BTW, real maple

syrup
is real maple syrup and there is no distinction between Vermont syrup or
Michigan syrup. Where there is a distinction is when you tap maple

trees
that don't get enough cold/warm nights/days...like Indiana, for
example...the sap doesn't have the sugar content necessary to make

really
good syrup. We tapped once...it is a lot of work and boiling the stuff

down
without the equipment (a still type thing is a tedious process, and

since
there is a sugar bush farm around the corner, I just buy it from them.
"Scout" wrote in message
...
You can't get the good stuff up there?
Scout

"katysails" wrote in message
...
We have Cracker Barrels in Michigan...but we have real Michigan

maple
syrup
which isn't distilled acid rain like Vermont's....

"Scout" wrote in message
...
I have to go with Cracker Barrel when I'm down South. We were in

South
Carolina a few weeks ago and had a great breakfast at CB. They

had
real
Vermont syrup. God bless America.
Scout

"Michael" wrote in message
...
You'll no doubt be happy to know I just drove through Lousiana,
Alabama,
Mississippi, Florida, Georgia and now S. Carolina with nary a

single
lynching. Although I would cheerfully nominate Perkins

Restaurants
for
the
dishonor and tie the know myself.

......of course there's still N.Carolina and Virginia yet to go

...

M.


"catherine haight" wrote in message

...
When I was 10 (a million years ago) we drove to Florida in the

days
before
e-ways and had car trouble in GA....we couldn't get anyone to

fix
the
car
until after the lynching...was the entertainment of the

week....we
were
appalled....that was in 1962.....
"DSK" wrote in message
...
oh yeah: we don't lynch people here.

Scott Vernon wrote:
hah, but the cops stick night sticks up your ass for the

fun
of
it.

I don't see any fun in that.

Makes beer and squirty cheese seem high-brow by comparison.

DSK


















katysails August 22nd 04 08:18 PM

Most states in the US have some species of owl...

"Horvath" wrote in message
...
On Sat, 21 Aug 2004 10:54:51 GMT, "Scout"
wrote this crap:

I have to go with Cracker Barrel when I'm down South. We were in South
Carolina a few weeks ago and had a great breakfast at CB. They had real
Vermont syrup. God bless America.



Don't they have any Hooters there?





Pathetic Earthlings! No one can save you now!




katysails August 22nd 04 08:19 PM

No...sounds good though....still easier to buy it from the neighbors...

"Capt. Mooron" wrote in message
...

"katysails" wrote in message
| We tapped once...it is a lot of work and boiling the stuff down
| without the equipment (a still type thing is a tedious process, and

since
| there is a sugar bush farm around the corner, I just buy it from them.

Have you tried the freezing method of rendering the syrup?? Works like a
charm and reduces the remaining stove time to a 1/4 of what it normally
takes. It's just a matter of freezing the raw syrup and removing the ice.
The syrup itself does not freeze as quickly so you reduce the water

content
by a major factor. The result is the same.

CM





Scout August 22nd 04 08:22 PM

so the answer to your original ques is: ying and yang?
Scout

"katysails" wrote in message
...
There's a Bimmer in our garage....but there's also an Oldsmobile that was
made just down the xway in Lansing....we bought the Bimmer in MI from
Michiganders...


"Scout" wrote in message
...
I couldn't say; are there any imported cars on your street?
Scout

"katysails" wrote
Why would you import someone else's produce when you're a leading
agricultural state (although some places do, but Michigan stuff is

better
and cheaper) It would be like eating Washington apples or Maine
potatoes...Michigan is a leader in both industries...also, why would a
Michigander eat cane sugar when we grow sugar beets? BTW, real maple

syrup
is real maple syrup and there is no distinction between Vermont syrup

or
Michigan syrup. Where there is a distinction is when you tap maple

trees
that don't get enough cold/warm nights/days...like Indiana, for
example...the sap doesn't have the sugar content necessary to make

really
good syrup. We tapped once...it is a lot of work and boiling the

stuff
down
without the equipment (a still type thing is a tedious process, and

since
there is a sugar bush farm around the corner, I just buy it from them.
"Scout" wrote in message
...
You can't get the good stuff up there?
Scout

"katysails" wrote in message
...
We have Cracker Barrels in Michigan...but we have real Michigan

maple
syrup
which isn't distilled acid rain like Vermont's....

"Scout" wrote in message
...
I have to go with Cracker Barrel when I'm down South. We were in

South
Carolina a few weeks ago and had a great breakfast at CB. They

had
real
Vermont syrup. God bless America.
Scout

"Michael" wrote in message
...
You'll no doubt be happy to know I just drove through

Lousiana,
Alabama,
Mississippi, Florida, Georgia and now S. Carolina with nary a

single
lynching. Although I would cheerfully nominate Perkins

Restaurants
for
the
dishonor and tie the know myself.

......of course there's still N.Carolina and Virginia yet to

go
...

M.


"catherine haight" wrote in

message

...
When I was 10 (a million years ago) we drove to Florida in

the
days
before
e-ways and had car trouble in GA....we couldn't get anyone

to
fix
the
car
until after the lynching...was the entertainment of the

week....we
were
appalled....that was in 1962.....
"DSK" wrote in message
...
oh yeah: we don't lynch people here.

Scott Vernon wrote:
hah, but the cops stick night sticks up your ass for the

fun
of
it.

I don't see any fun in that.

Makes beer and squirty cheese seem high-brow by

comparison.

DSK




















katysails August 22nd 04 08:35 PM

If you like....certainly not feng shui...

"Scout" wrote in message
...
so the answer to your original ques is: ying and yang?
Scout

"katysails" wrote in message
...
There's a Bimmer in our garage....but there's also an Oldsmobile that

was
made just down the xway in Lansing....we bought the Bimmer in MI from
Michiganders...


"Scout" wrote in message
...
I couldn't say; are there any imported cars on your street?
Scout

"katysails" wrote
Why would you import someone else's produce when you're a leading
agricultural state (although some places do, but Michigan stuff is

better
and cheaper) It would be like eating Washington apples or Maine
potatoes...Michigan is a leader in both industries...also, why would

a
Michigander eat cane sugar when we grow sugar beets? BTW, real

maple
syrup
is real maple syrup and there is no distinction between Vermont

syrup
or
Michigan syrup. Where there is a distinction is when you tap maple

trees
that don't get enough cold/warm nights/days...like Indiana, for
example...the sap doesn't have the sugar content necessary to make

really
good syrup. We tapped once...it is a lot of work and boiling the

stuff
down
without the equipment (a still type thing is a tedious process, and

since
there is a sugar bush farm around the corner, I just buy it from

them.
"Scout" wrote in message
...
You can't get the good stuff up there?
Scout

"katysails" wrote in message
...
We have Cracker Barrels in Michigan...but we have real Michigan

maple
syrup
which isn't distilled acid rain like Vermont's....

"Scout" wrote in message

...
I have to go with Cracker Barrel when I'm down South. We were

in
South
Carolina a few weeks ago and had a great breakfast at CB.

They
had
real
Vermont syrup. God bless America.
Scout

"Michael" wrote in message
...
You'll no doubt be happy to know I just drove through

Lousiana,
Alabama,
Mississippi, Florida, Georgia and now S. Carolina with nary

a
single
lynching. Although I would cheerfully nominate Perkins
Restaurants
for
the
dishonor and tie the know myself.

......of course there's still N.Carolina and Virginia yet to

go
...

M.


"catherine haight" wrote in

message

...
When I was 10 (a million years ago) we drove to Florida in

the
days
before
e-ways and had car trouble in GA....we couldn't get anyone

to
fix
the
car
until after the lynching...was the entertainment of the
week....we
were
appalled....that was in 1962.....
"DSK" wrote in message
...
oh yeah: we don't lynch people here.

Scott Vernon wrote:
hah, but the cops stick night sticks up your ass for

the
fun
of
it.

I don't see any fun in that.

Makes beer and squirty cheese seem high-brow by

comparison.

DSK






















Maxprop August 24th 04 02:33 AM


"DSK" wrote in message

I'm impressed that you knew you were in Bayboro. That place hasn't
changed much, except for the increased thru traffic. Most outsiders
driving between New Bern and Oriental see the intervening distance as 35
miles of partially paved swamp.


Bayboro could be missed if not attentive, but we love small towns and check
'em out carefully. Also the attorney who did the closing on our property in
Oriental practices there. Extremely nice fellow, and he lives in the
subdivision in which we bought a lot.


BTW you went right by our boat. Should have stopped in.


Which marina are you in? We did see a large junk at the dock at the Holiday
Inn (?) at the bridge in New Bern. Amazing boat, and one we'd love to have
seen in more detail.


Funny you should mention New York. It's been really wierd the last few
times I've gone there, people have been friendly and helpful (although
why do they have those gawd-awful accents?). Makes me suspicious!


Actually the New Yorkers must undergo some sort of osmotic adaptation of
southern hospitality soon after arriving. All we met were seriously nice
folk.

Captain Ratty's has the best damned mussels and seafood chowder. Then again
I've probably never had the real thing before.

Max



Maxprop August 24th 04 02:40 AM


"Dave" wrote in message

This may be an area where perceptions are changing. A month or so ago I
spoke to a client from Texas who had just come back from a few days in New
York. He commented on how friendly and helpful he found New Yorkers on

this
trip. This is a guy who has been to the City many times over the years. He
felt that at this point New Yorkers' reputations for rudeness was no

longer
deserved.

Not sure I agree with him, but there you have it FWIW.


I travel to NYC about three times each year. The first few trips left me
with the impression that New Yorkers were hostile. Subsequent trips have
led me to believe that they simply don't deal with life in a mild manner.
Lots of bark, but very little bite. One of my closest friends there once
told me, "To understand New Yorkers, ya gotta live here a while. Then when
you think you got 'em figured out, they disappoint the hell outta ya. And
THEN you begin to understand 'em." I think he was being too hard on his
fellow knickerbockers.

Max



gonefishiing August 24th 04 06:51 AM

you got it
congrats
welcome to NYC Max.
the best place in the world.
welcome aboard anytime.
gf.

"Maxprop" wrote in message
ink.net...

I travel to NYC about three times each year. The first few trips left me
with the impression that New Yorkers were hostile. Subsequent trips have
led me to believe that they simply don't deal with life in a mild manner.
Lots of bark, but very little bite. One of my closest friends there once
told me, "To understand New Yorkers, ya gotta live here a while. Then

when
you think you got 'em figured out, they disappoint the hell outta ya. And
THEN you begin to understand 'em." I think he was being too hard on his
fellow knickerbockers.

Max





Bart Senior August 24th 04 03:43 PM

NYC sailors are one of the most diverse groups I've
ever met, and I've liked nearly everyone I've met.

There must be representation from nearly every country
in the world in this group. It's proof that everyone, no
matter where they come from have certain basic things
in common.

Also NYC has good wind most of the time. Someday, I
want to get a night sail in down there.

"gonefishiing" wrote

you got it
congrats
welcome to NYC Max.
the best place in the world.
welcome aboard anytime.
gf.

"Maxprop" wrote in

I travel to NYC about three times each year. The first few trips left

me
with the impression that New Yorkers were hostile. Subsequent trips

have
led me to believe that they simply don't deal with life in a mild

manner.
Lots of bark, but very little bite. One of my closest friends there

once
told me, "To understand New Yorkers, ya gotta live here a while. Then

when
you think you got 'em figured out, they disappoint the hell outta ya.

And
THEN you begin to understand 'em." I think he was being too hard on his
fellow knickerbockers.

Max




DSK August 24th 04 06:30 PM

Bart Senior wrote:
NYC sailors are one of the most diverse groups I've
ever met, and I've liked nearly everyone I've met.


I can't say that for all New Yorkers I've ever met, but it's true almost
all sailors.


There must be representation from nearly every country
in the world in this group. It's proof that everyone, no
matter where they come from have certain basic things
in common.


IMHO that's true but you have to also realize the tremendous differences
in human culture... basic values are the same but they can be expressed
*very* differently.


Also NYC has good wind most of the time. Someday, I
want to get a night sail in down there.


I've sailed a few times in light air there. South Street Seaport is a
great place. The Manhatten YC too; we raced a collegiate invitational in
J-24s there and had a grand time. Spend an extra day racing with Wall
St's young millionaires. I understand the water is cleaner but what I
saw few years ago led me to believe it's got a long way to go.

Fresh Breezes- Doug King


DSK August 24th 04 06:41 PM

Maxprop wrote:
Bayboro could be missed if not attentive, but we love small towns and check
'em out carefully.


You could almost miss it if you blink. Of course, you could also end up
in Vandemere or Hobucken ;)


BTW you went right by our boat. Should have stopped in.



Which marina are you in?


We're in Northwest Creek. Actually it's a little out of the way, but
from Michigan, you went right by....

.... We did see a large junk at the dock at the Holiday
Inn (?) at the bridge in New Bern. Amazing boat, and one we'd love to have
seen in more detail.


That's a cool boat. They're gone up to the Chesapeake for the summer &
fall, I think they'll be back. It's a very nice couple from South
Africa, bought the boat partially comleted, finished it, and sailed here.


Actually the New Yorkers must undergo some sort of osmotic adaptation of
southern hospitality soon after arriving. All we met were seriously nice
folk.



Sure. They mellow out thinking, "Why bother to impress anybody around
here?" ...have not caught on that everybody around them are Yankees too.

Actually it's changed A LOT over the past 20+ years. Some for the
better, some for the worse.


Captain Ratty's has the best damned mussels and seafood chowder. Then again
I've probably never had the real thing before.


Go to Charlie's in Bayboro. That's *real* stuff, they catch it
themselves. I'm not kidding. It's not cheap (although it's not real
expensive either). Charlie's is right across from the high school right
along 55. BTW it is an unassuming mostly local place, so don't tell
anybody I told you where it is.

New Bern has a fair number of pretty good restaurants too. My favorite
is either Clemetine's or Mundo's. Needless to say that's one of the
changes.... New Bern? Restaurants?!?

Fresh Breezes- Doug King


Maxprop August 25th 04 02:32 AM


"DSK" wrote in message

You could almost miss it if you blink. Of course, you could also end up
in Vandemere or Hobucken ;)


Been to both, actually. When we were there it was so damned cold that there
wasn't much else to do but drive around and check out the countryside.


That's a cool boat. They're gone up to the Chesapeake for the summer &
fall, I think they'll be back. It's a very nice couple from South
Africa, bought the boat partially comleted, finished it, and sailed here.


Wish they'd been aboard when we were walking the docks.

Go to Charlie's in Bayboro. That's *real* stuff, they catch it
themselves. I'm not kidding. It's not cheap (although it's not real
expensive either). Charlie's is right across from the high school right
along 55. BTW it is an unassuming mostly local place, so don't tell
anybody I told you where it is.


Our attorney suggested it, too, but we were already back in Indiana.


New Bern has a fair number of pretty good restaurants too. My favorite
is either Clemetine's or Mundo's. Needless to say that's one of the
changes.... New Bern? Restaurants?!?


We like Clementine's, too. Great food and the staff is great. New Bern
(the downtown and historic section) is so unlike anything in this part of
the country that we spent a lot of time there. To paraphrase Gordon
Lightfoot, " . . . I love your Spanish Moss."

Max



Lady Pilot August 25th 04 06:03 AM


"Scout" wrote:

I have to go with Cracker Barrel when I'm down South. We were in South
Carolina a few weeks ago and had a great breakfast at CB. They had real
Vermont syrup. God bless America.
Scout



Last time I went to Cracker Barrel, Brittany Spears was there.

All I can say about the experience was the food was good, and they had real
blueberry syrup! heheee (Not much of an experience, really)

LP



Scout August 25th 04 11:43 AM

I wouldn't mind it if she were there, so long as she's behind me in line.
Scout

"Lady Pilot" wrote in message
news:45VWc.1847$gl.1612@okepread07...

"Scout" wrote:

I have to go with Cracker Barrel when I'm down South. We were in South
Carolina a few weeks ago and had a great breakfast at CB. They had real
Vermont syrup. God bless America.
Scout



Last time I went to Cracker Barrel, Brittany Spears was there.

All I can say about the experience was the food was good, and they had

real
blueberry syrup! heheee (Not much of an experience, really)

LP





DSK August 25th 04 08:47 PM

Maxprop wrote:
... To paraphrase Gordon
Lightfoot, " . . . I love your Spanish Moss."


Please, take some home. It kinda grows on you ;)

DSK


Maxprop August 26th 04 04:02 AM


"DSK" wrote in message

Maxprop wrote:
... To paraphrase Gordon
Lightfoot, " . . . I love your Spanish Moss."


Please, take some home. It kinda grows on you ;)


It doesn't like our winters apparently. Or perhaps our proximity to
Canadians. :-)

Max



DSK August 26th 04 03:43 PM

Maxprop wrote:
It doesn't like our winters apparently. Or perhaps our proximity to
Canadians. :-)


Not all Canajjuns are like Capt. Mooron... I sent him some and he smoked
it... said "No wonder the South lost" or something like that...

DSK


Capt. Mooron August 26th 04 07:54 PM


"DSK" wrote in message
. ..
| Maxprop wrote:
| It doesn't like our winters apparently. Or perhaps our proximity to
| Canadians. :-)
|
| Not all Canajjuns are like Capt. Mooron... I sent him some and he smoked
| it... said "No wonder the South lost" or something like that...

Well jeez... what do you expect... I'm accustomed to BC Bud. :-)

CM




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