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The filters looked ok, I changed them anyway.
There was air in the lines. "Scott Vernon" wrote "Bart Senior" wrote ... It didn't run at all until I changed the filters and bleed the system. Because the filters were clogged, or you had air in the system? If the filters were clogged, the new one may have restriction already. Did you inspect the rubber gasket? Do you have 2 fuel filters? SV I'll bet it's either the fuel pump or else the return line. Either of those fits the circumstances. |
DSK wrote in message ...
Scout wrote: Why would the return line cause it to lose fuel when you open the throttle? If the purpose of the return line is to return unused fuel to the tank, theoretically there is less fuel passing through it as you open the throttle up. Not necessarily. With a Detroit, yes, but other types of injector systems do it differently. With our diesel (Ford Lehman) for example there is almost no return at idle, the return flow seems to be proportional to throttle setting (although it jumps when the load changes). I find that very strange Doug. I have a Ford Bowman and have a very strong return even at idle. Also have a very neat system to bleed the system of air. Its a tank mounted above the fuel system that has a capasity of the whole fuel system. If I get air in the system it get trapped in this tank above everything else. On top of the tank is a valve for purging out all the air. It's great for removing all the air induced while changing filters off shore in a rocking boat. My return is just as strong at idle as it is at full throttle. I have a simms fuel pump what do you have? Perhaps the Bowman conversation is just far better and stouter than your lehman conversion. Joe A blocked return line could cause the engine to die but it would be more likely to surge or be unresponsive to throttle first (disclaimer- I am not an expert diesel mechanic and never played one on TV) Your advice about checking the filter again even though its new is right on. Say Bart do you have a vacuum gage on the filter outlet? Fresh Breezes- Doug King |
DSK wrote in message ...
Scout wrote: Why would the return line cause it to lose fuel when you open the throttle? If the purpose of the return line is to return unused fuel to the tank, theoretically there is less fuel passing through it as you open the throttle up. Not necessarily. With a Detroit, yes, but other types of injector systems do it differently. With our diesel (Ford Lehman) for example there is almost no return at idle, the return flow seems to be proportional to throttle setting (although it jumps when the load changes). I find that weird Doug, I have a Ford Bowman and the return is just as strong at Idle as it is a full throttle. My Bowman conversion has a Simms fuel pump what do you have on your Ford? Perhaps it is because Leamans or not as stout and well built as the Bowman conversions;) Joe A blocked return line could cause the engine to die but it would be more likely to surge or be unresponsive to throttle first (disclaimer- I am not an expert diesel mechanic and never played one on TV) Your advice about checking the filter again even though its new is right on. Say Bart do you have a vacuum gage on the filter outlet? Fresh Breezes- Doug King |
"Bart Senior" wrote in message . net...
I put it on because I had trouble bleeding the system. Here is what you do. Mount a tank in the fuel system between the pump and the rack. Make sure the that the tank is higher than the rest of the system. Make sure the tank will hold an equal volume as the whole system. If any air gets into the system it will bubble up in this tank. The tank has a valve on top to bleed air off when you start the engine. I have a clear hose going from the top of my tank to a day tank for the gen set, if you do not have a day tank for your gen set use any fuel container to catch bubbled up fuel. Its great and works perfectly! Joe I've found that it was damn hard to bleed the system with either a hand pump or electric. Later I found it was easy to bleed the system with a little gravity assist. I was planning on pulling it off anyway. I'd already clipped the wires and the next step was to pull the pump. "Joe" wrote create a loop for the pump only if you must have one. Make it where you can isolate the pump out of the system when not in use. Everyone I know who did what you did has the same proble trying to suck fuel thru a electrical pump without it on. Why do you even need a pump besides the one on your engine? |
"Maxprop" wrote in message . net...
"katysails" wrote in message Give me a break....us damn Yankees secure our furling after every use....we have storms with 70 mph straight line winds that shred gennies right off the furler if they're not tied up....those are just plain dumb people... According to the weather service, Katy, those you were referring to were roughly 100mph straight line winds. Our ketch was heeled 45 degrees over in her slip under bare poles. Max Damn...Must be a nimble Ketch. At 110 knots we get a 10-15 degree heel max. Joe |
"Capt. Mooron" wrote in message ...
I do the same thing here Mooron. Mostley stinkboats. One trawler guy gave me a crisp new 100 dollar bill. I told him I did not want it, thats what you do for other boaters, he said if I did not take it he would just toss it in the water. So I accepted it. Then there are the cigarboat assholes. I secured about 5 floating dock boxes full of gear before they made it to open water, not one of the owners said thanks, and one of them with his stuck up slut gave me dirty looks, acted ****ed off about it. Next time I plan to shoot holes in them before they can bump into my boat. I think they would of rather filed an highly inflated insurance claim. Joe I often wondered during hurricane Juan last year if it wasn't better just to scuttle the damn boats that belonged to ignorant, inexperienced owners... rather than allow them to become hazards to the vessels properly secured. Cripes... on my boat I stripped every piece of loose cloth, dodger, rail cloths, sails and gear from the decks and placed two anchors with major chafe gear at 45 degrees to my mooring. I secured and stripped 5 other vessels... the owners hadn't bothered coming out to do it themselves. 4 of the 5 thanked me profusely and purchased beer and rum for me. The 5th never showed for the entire season.... I heard he had died on vacation and his widow was housebound in grief. 3 vessels tore their moorings... all behind me because I secured all vessels within what I believed was a striking perimeter. Those boats that tore loose hit , damaged and/or sank 4 others. Of course nobody got blamed but the insurance premiums went way up... for all of us! Overproof suffered no damage at all. I dove to free the tangled mess of rode and anchor. You either rise to the challenge or get swamped by the results. CM "Bart Senior" wrote in message et... | These are people who probably don't know how to sail. If they | learned on small boats they would understand how powerful the | wind really is. | | "DSK" wrote | | The marina was well prepared, except for a few stupid people who did not | take down their roller furled genoas... I climbed aboard two and added a | set of securing hitches, one with the owner standing there telling me | the whole time that he didn't need it, didn't want it, and I better come | back right after the storm and get it off of there. This is what a I | call a damn Yankee. Other people secured biminis & roller furlers for | people who either couldn't or wouldn't take them off themselves. | One of these bozos said to me, "The predicted wind is only 60 knots or | less, that's not going to be a problem." I told him that 1- less than 60 | knots could shred his bimini, yank his genoa off it's furler and dismast | him, as well as causing major damage to boats around him (this last | being my own concern) and 2- there was a good possibility of tornados. | This guy also has dock lines that look like old ratty clothesline.. the | marina dockmaster had to loan him some real lines. | | | |
Ya Reb Cracker....
I love that term... "Cracker" CM "DSK" wrote in message .. . | Bart Senior wrote: | I don't think I've met a Southerner that was stupid and | mean. I have to admit as a group, they rate about the | best in the US. | | Thanks. I am a Southerner and am proud of it. Cultural differences are | being erased in this country, partly because of mass media and partly | because of everybody moving around so much. | | There certainly are mean-spirited and/or stupid and/or dishonest | Sotherners, just like among any other people... we try to weed them out | early though ;) Some cultural anthropologists studying the matter have | identified a number of characteristics of Southerners, the main two are | generosity and sense of honor. This doesn't necessarily mean that | Southerners are more honest or have better families, just that we get | PO'd if you insult them! | | Speaking of which, this guy is a hoot... genuine PhD and Southerner... | used to write a column for the local paper until it was bought up by a | Yankee franchise... | http://xroads.virginia.edu/~DRBR/REED/tears.html | | | DSK | |
Dunno about truck stops, but most Waffle Houses do! DSK Waffle Houses are great...exce[t for the cholesterol....and are there really people that drink unsweet tea????yech..... -- katysails s/v Chanteuse Kirie Elite 32 http://katysails.tripod.com "Women and cats will do as they please, and men and dogs should relax and get used to the idea." - Robert A. Heinlein --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.726 / Virus Database: 481 - Release Date: 7/22/2004 |
Ya Reb Cracker....
Doug doesn't live in Georgia.... -- katysails s/v Chanteuse Kirie Elite 32 http://katysails.tripod.com "Women and cats will do as they please, and men and dogs should relax and get used to the idea." - Robert A. Heinlein --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.726 / Virus Database: 481 - Release Date: 7/22/2004 |
Do all 'Crackers" hail from Georgia??
CM "katysails" wrote in message ... | Ya Reb Cracker.... | | Doug doesn't live in Georgia.... | | -- | katysails | s/v Chanteuse | Kirie Elite 32 | http://katysails.tripod.com | | "Women and cats will do as they please, and men and dogs should relax | and get used to the idea." - Robert A. Heinlein | | | | --- | Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. | Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). | Version: 6.0.726 / Virus Database: 481 - Release Date: 7/22/2004 | | |
"katysails" wrote in message Our ketch was heeled 45 degrees over in her slip under bare poles. Yes...I remember that one vividly...for awhile O thought your ketch was going to become a part of my rigging.... Nah. Your Kirie was heeled over 45 degrees in her own slip as well. That would have been an awesome sight to see from, say, the restaurant--all those boats heeling 45 degrees in the marina. Max |
"DSK" wrote in message Bart Senior wrote: I don't think I've met a Southerner that was stupid and mean. I have to admit as a group, they rate about the best in the US. Thanks. I am a Southerner and am proud of it. Cultural differences are being erased in this country, partly because of mass media and partly because of everybody moving around so much. There certainly are mean-spirited and/or stupid and/or dishonest Sotherners, just like among any other people... we try to weed them out early though ;) Some cultural anthropologists studying the matter have identified a number of characteristics of Southerners, the main two are generosity and sense of honor. This doesn't necessarily mean that Southerners are more honest or have better families, just that we get PO'd if you insult them! Our trip to NC this past December was my first actual experience with southerners. Apart from all the transplanted New Yorkers they were far and away the friendliest, kindest, most accommodating people I've ever encountered. For example, we stopped at a convenience store/gas station in Bayboro for my wife to buy a bottle of Lipton tea. The girl behind the counter apologized repeatedly for not having any, and actually offered to brew some up next door at her house. Never had that experience before. Max |
"Joe" wrote in message om... "Maxprop" wrote in message "katysails" wrote in message Give me a break....us damn Yankees secure our furling after every use....we have storms with 70 mph straight line winds that shred gennies right off the furler if they're not tied up....those are just plain dumb people... According to the weather service, Katy, those you were referring to were roughly 100mph straight line winds. Our ketch was heeled 45 degrees over in her slip under bare poles. Max Damn...Must be a nimble Ketch. At 110 knots we get a 10-15 degree heel max. It wasn't particularly *Nimble*, rather a Far East Yachts Mariner 31 ketch. It drew 3'11", and with heavy spruce spars she was quite tender. In a beam seaway she'd roll enough to make an astronaut ill. Max |
On Wed, 18 Aug 2004 01:50:04 GMT, "Maxprop"
wrote this crap: Our trip to NC this past December was my first actual experience with southerners. Apart from all the transplanted New Yorkers they were far and away the friendliest, kindest, most accommodating people I've ever encountered. For example, we stopped at a convenience store/gas station in Bayboro for my wife to buy a bottle of Lipton tea. The girl behind the counter apologized repeatedly for not having any, and actually offered to brew some up next door at her house. Never had that experience before. How much was she charging? Pathetic Earthlings! No one can save you now! |
Maxprop wrote:
Our trip to NC this past December was my first actual experience with southerners. Apart from all the transplanted New Yorkers they were far and away the friendliest, kindest, most accommodating people I've ever encountered. For example, we stopped at a convenience store/gas station in Bayboro for my wife to buy a bottle of Lipton tea. The girl behind the counter apologized repeatedly for not having any, and actually offered to brew some up next door at her house. Never had that experience before. I'm impressed that you knew you were in Bayboro. That place hasn't changed much, except for the increased thru traffic. Most outsiders driving between New Bern and Oriental see the intervening distance as 35 miles of partially paved swamp. BTW you went right by our boat. Should have stopped in. Funny you should mention New York. It's been really wierd the last few times I've gone there, people have been friendly and helpful (although why do they have those gawd-awful accents?). Makes me suspicious! DSK |
katysails wrote:
Waffle Houses are great...exce[t for the cholesterol.... ??? What's the problem with cholesterol, just because some people can't handle it, doesn't mean it should be outlawed for everybody! .... and are there really people that drink unsweet tea????yech..... Agreed. DSK |
"katysails" wrote: ....and are there really people that drink unsweet tea????yech..... It's a regional thing, Katy. In the midwest when you ask for iced tea, it automatically comes unsweetned. When I roamed the eastern parts of the country (like Georgia), the tea is pre-sweetned. Another interesting thing about different regions, is when you ask for a hot dog with "everything on it" in Georgia, etc. it comes with cole slaw! I had never heard of putting slaw on a hot dog until that experience. LP |
rudeness
nah it ain't what its about-- and if that is all you ever encountered then the only thing you did here was to be a tourist in all the tourist places or simply have not understood nyc yeah-welcome to nyc you haven't been here yet. i've lived in both and both have their points --just different aint good or bad oh yeah: we don't lynch people here. its ok: stay "down" the if you don't like the city, we don't need ya. gf. "Dave" wrote in message ... On Wed, 18 Aug 2004 01:50:04 GMT, "Maxprop" said: Our trip to NC this past December was my first actual experience with southerners. Apart from all the transplanted New Yorkers they were far and away the friendliest, kindest, most accommodating people I've ever encountered. This may be an area where perceptions are changing. A month or so ago I spoke to a client from Texas who had just come back from a few days in New York. He commented on how friendly and helpful he found New Yorkers on this trip. This is a guy who has been to the City many times over the years. He felt that at this point New Yorkers' reputations for rudeness was no longer deserved. Not sure I agree with him, but there you have it FWIW. Dave S/V Good Fortune CS27 "Michael Moore...may win an Oscar for the kind of work that got Stephen Glass, Jayson Blair, and Jack Kelly fired"--NPR's Scott Simon |
gonefishiing wrote:
rudeness nah it ain't what its about-- and if that is all you ever encountered then the only thing you did here was to be a tourist in all the tourist places or simply have not understood nyc yeah-welcome to nyc you haven't been here yet. There is not enough money in the world to get me to live long-term in Noo Yawk Sitty. OTOH I have stayed there a few months at a time on several occasions, working and playing tourist. oh yeah: we don't lynch people here. Really? Last time I looked, there were bigger skinhead groups in the major metro areas (definitely including NYC which has several KKK chapters) than in rural areas. its ok: stay "down" the if you don't like the city, we don't need ya. Last time I was there, I noticed a tremendous lack of productive farmland in downtown Noo Yawk. What do ya'll eat that isn't brought in from elsewhere? And where does your drinking water come from? "Its easy to understand why the cat has eclipsed the dog as modern America's favorite pet. People like pets to possess the same qualities they do. Cats are irresponsible and recognize no authority, yet are completely dependent on others for their material needs. Cats cannot be made to do anything useful. Cats are mean for the fun of it." --P. J. O'Rourke OTOH it seems that a lot of New Yorkers have pulled their heads out of their orifices and noticed that there is something worthwhile about the rest of the world, and the people too. They seem to be making an impression, too. DSK |
"katysails" wrote in message ... Dunno about truck stops, but most Waffle Houses do! DSK Waffle Houses are great...exce[t for the cholesterol....and are there really people that drink unsweet tea????yech..... some people order unsweetened so they can add their own sugar / Sweet-n-low / Splenda / Equal. Some places down south over sweeten their tea, Scotty |
"gonefishiing" wrote
its ok: stay "down" the if you don't like the city, we don't need ya. yeah, they grow their own tobacco and cotton in NYC. Among other things. SV |
"DSK" wrote oh yeah: we don't lynch people here. Really? hah, but the cops stick night sticks up your ass for the fun of it. SV |
"Dave" wrote in message
... On Wed, 18 Aug 2004 11:01:45 -0400, "gonefishiing" said: rudeness nah it ain't what its about-- and if that is all you ever encountered then the only thing you did here was to be a tourist in all the tourist places or simply have not understood nyc yeah-welcome to nyc you haven't been here yet. Actually, I've lived here for 33 years. How many years can you get out of a refrigerator box? SV |
oh yeah: we don't lynch people here.
Scott Vernon wrote: hah, but the cops stick night sticks up your ass for the fun of it. I don't see any fun in that. Makes beer and squirty cheese seem high-brow by comparison. DSK |
Scott Vernon wrote:
some people order unsweetened so they can add their own sugar / Sweet-n-low / Splenda / Equal. All those artificial sweeteners taste like chemicals to me. Sugar or Karo syrup are where it's at. ... Some places down south over sweeten their tea It's not possible to over sweeten tea. Do I have to explain it? Sugar must be added to tea while it's hot from brewing, so that it will dissolve more sugar than when cold, and not be cloudy when chilled. It is not possible to add sugar to iced tea and turn it into sweet tea. I have not explained this to anyone in years, having given up long ago. If you have to have it explained, then you are not a Southerner. BTW my wife makes excellent tea and she is originally from New Jersey, so there's hope for anybody. Regards Doug King |
When I was 10 (a million years ago) we drove to Florida in the days before
e-ways and had car trouble in GA....we couldn't get anyone to fix the car until after the lynching...was the entertainment of the week....we were appalled....that was in 1962..... "DSK" wrote in message ... oh yeah: we don't lynch people here. Scott Vernon wrote: hah, but the cops stick night sticks up your ass for the fun of it. I don't see any fun in that. Makes beer and squirty cheese seem high-brow by comparison. DSK |
catherine haight wrote:
When I was 10 (a million years ago) we drove to Florida in the days before e-ways and had car trouble in GA....we couldn't get anyone to fix the car until after the lynching...was the entertainment of the week....we were appalled....that was in 1962..... That's one of the things that has changed for the better. When I was a kid there were segregated restrooms and water fountains... seperate but not hardly equal. I don't think it's necessarily a Southern thing though. When I visited cousins up North in the same era many kids gathered rocks in the school parking lot of the bus ride home, to throw out the school bus windows at black people or their cars. They thought it was funny. Sorry to make such a downer poste. I'm going to browse some sailing websites to cheer up. DSK |
depends how often the sanitation guys come by to clean up.
sometimes decades gf. "Scott Vernon" wrote in message ... "Dave" wrote in message ... On Wed, 18 Aug 2004 11:01:45 -0400, "gonefishiing" said: rudeness nah it ain't what its about-- and if that is all you ever encountered then the only thing you did here was to be a tourist in all the tourist places or simply have not understood nyc yeah-welcome to nyc you haven't been here yet. Actually, I've lived here for 33 years. How many years can you get out of a refrigerator box? SV |
You'll no doubt be happy to know I just drove through Lousiana, Alabama,
Mississippi, Florida, Georgia and now S. Carolina with nary a single lynching. Although I would cheerfully nominate Perkins Restaurants for the dishonor and tie the know myself. .......of course there's still N.Carolina and Virginia yet to go ... M. "catherine haight" wrote in message ... When I was 10 (a million years ago) we drove to Florida in the days before e-ways and had car trouble in GA....we couldn't get anyone to fix the car until after the lynching...was the entertainment of the week....we were appalled....that was in 1962..... "DSK" wrote in message ... oh yeah: we don't lynch people here. Scott Vernon wrote: hah, but the cops stick night sticks up your ass for the fun of it. I don't see any fun in that. Makes beer and squirty cheese seem high-brow by comparison. DSK |
We have Perkins up here, too. Filthy place...almost as bad as
Denny's....I'll take a Waffle House anyday... "Michael" wrote in message ... You'll no doubt be happy to know I just drove through Lousiana, Alabama, Mississippi, Florida, Georgia and now S. Carolina with nary a single lynching. Although I would cheerfully nominate Perkins Restaurants for the dishonor and tie the know myself. ......of course there's still N.Carolina and Virginia yet to go ... M. "catherine haight" wrote in message ... When I was 10 (a million years ago) we drove to Florida in the days before e-ways and had car trouble in GA....we couldn't get anyone to fix the car until after the lynching...was the entertainment of the week....we were appalled....that was in 1962..... "DSK" wrote in message ... oh yeah: we don't lynch people here. Scott Vernon wrote: hah, but the cops stick night sticks up your ass for the fun of it. I don't see any fun in that. Makes beer and squirty cheese seem high-brow by comparison. DSK |
I have to go with Cracker Barrel when I'm down South. We were in South
Carolina a few weeks ago and had a great breakfast at CB. They had real Vermont syrup. God bless America. Scout "Michael" wrote in message ... You'll no doubt be happy to know I just drove through Lousiana, Alabama, Mississippi, Florida, Georgia and now S. Carolina with nary a single lynching. Although I would cheerfully nominate Perkins Restaurants for the dishonor and tie the know myself. ......of course there's still N.Carolina and Virginia yet to go ... M. "catherine haight" wrote in message ... When I was 10 (a million years ago) we drove to Florida in the days before e-ways and had car trouble in GA....we couldn't get anyone to fix the car until after the lynching...was the entertainment of the week....we were appalled....that was in 1962..... "DSK" wrote in message ... oh yeah: we don't lynch people here. Scott Vernon wrote: hah, but the cops stick night sticks up your ass for the fun of it. I don't see any fun in that. Makes beer and squirty cheese seem high-brow by comparison. DSK |
We have Cracker Barrels in Michigan...but we have real Michigan maple syrup
which isn't distilled acid rain like Vermont's.... "Scout" wrote in message ... I have to go with Cracker Barrel when I'm down South. We were in South Carolina a few weeks ago and had a great breakfast at CB. They had real Vermont syrup. God bless America. Scout "Michael" wrote in message ... You'll no doubt be happy to know I just drove through Lousiana, Alabama, Mississippi, Florida, Georgia and now S. Carolina with nary a single lynching. Although I would cheerfully nominate Perkins Restaurants for the dishonor and tie the know myself. ......of course there's still N.Carolina and Virginia yet to go ... M. "catherine haight" wrote in message ... When I was 10 (a million years ago) we drove to Florida in the days before e-ways and had car trouble in GA....we couldn't get anyone to fix the car until after the lynching...was the entertainment of the week....we were appalled....that was in 1962..... "DSK" wrote in message ... oh yeah: we don't lynch people here. Scott Vernon wrote: hah, but the cops stick night sticks up your ass for the fun of it. I don't see any fun in that. Makes beer and squirty cheese seem high-brow by comparison. DSK |
You can't get the good stuff up there?
Scout "katysails" wrote in message ... We have Cracker Barrels in Michigan...but we have real Michigan maple syrup which isn't distilled acid rain like Vermont's.... "Scout" wrote in message ... I have to go with Cracker Barrel when I'm down South. We were in South Carolina a few weeks ago and had a great breakfast at CB. They had real Vermont syrup. God bless America. Scout "Michael" wrote in message ... You'll no doubt be happy to know I just drove through Lousiana, Alabama, Mississippi, Florida, Georgia and now S. Carolina with nary a single lynching. Although I would cheerfully nominate Perkins Restaurants for the dishonor and tie the know myself. ......of course there's still N.Carolina and Virginia yet to go ... M. "catherine haight" wrote in message ... When I was 10 (a million years ago) we drove to Florida in the days before e-ways and had car trouble in GA....we couldn't get anyone to fix the car until after the lynching...was the entertainment of the week....we were appalled....that was in 1962..... "DSK" wrote in message ... oh yeah: we don't lynch people here. Scott Vernon wrote: hah, but the cops stick night sticks up your ass for the fun of it. I don't see any fun in that. Makes beer and squirty cheese seem high-brow by comparison. DSK |
Why would you import someone else's produce when you're a leading
agricultural state (although some places do, but Michigan stuff is better and cheaper) It would be like eating Washington apples or Maine potatoes...Michigan is a leader in both industries...also, why would a Michigander eat cane sugar when we grow sugar beets? BTW, real maple syrup is real maple syrup and there is no distinction between Vermont syrup or Michigan syrup. Where there is a distinction is when you tap maple trees that don't get enough cold/warm nights/days...like Indiana, for example...the sap doesn't have the sugar content necessary to make really good syrup. We tapped once...it is a lot of work and boiling the stuff down without the equipment (a still type thing is a tedious process, and since there is a sugar bush farm around the corner, I just buy it from them. "Scout" wrote in message ... You can't get the good stuff up there? Scout "katysails" wrote in message ... We have Cracker Barrels in Michigan...but we have real Michigan maple syrup which isn't distilled acid rain like Vermont's.... "Scout" wrote in message ... I have to go with Cracker Barrel when I'm down South. We were in South Carolina a few weeks ago and had a great breakfast at CB. They had real Vermont syrup. God bless America. Scout "Michael" wrote in message ... You'll no doubt be happy to know I just drove through Lousiana, Alabama, Mississippi, Florida, Georgia and now S. Carolina with nary a single lynching. Although I would cheerfully nominate Perkins Restaurants for the dishonor and tie the know myself. ......of course there's still N.Carolina and Virginia yet to go .... M. "catherine haight" wrote in message ... When I was 10 (a million years ago) we drove to Florida in the days before e-ways and had car trouble in GA....we couldn't get anyone to fix the car until after the lynching...was the entertainment of the week....we were appalled....that was in 1962..... "DSK" wrote in message ... oh yeah: we don't lynch people here. Scott Vernon wrote: hah, but the cops stick night sticks up your ass for the fun of it. I don't see any fun in that. Makes beer and squirty cheese seem high-brow by comparison. DSK |
I couldn't say; are there any imported cars on your street?
Scout "katysails" wrote Why would you import someone else's produce when you're a leading agricultural state (although some places do, but Michigan stuff is better and cheaper) It would be like eating Washington apples or Maine potatoes...Michigan is a leader in both industries...also, why would a Michigander eat cane sugar when we grow sugar beets? BTW, real maple syrup is real maple syrup and there is no distinction between Vermont syrup or Michigan syrup. Where there is a distinction is when you tap maple trees that don't get enough cold/warm nights/days...like Indiana, for example...the sap doesn't have the sugar content necessary to make really good syrup. We tapped once...it is a lot of work and boiling the stuff down without the equipment (a still type thing is a tedious process, and since there is a sugar bush farm around the corner, I just buy it from them. "Scout" wrote in message ... You can't get the good stuff up there? Scout "katysails" wrote in message ... We have Cracker Barrels in Michigan...but we have real Michigan maple syrup which isn't distilled acid rain like Vermont's.... "Scout" wrote in message ... I have to go with Cracker Barrel when I'm down South. We were in South Carolina a few weeks ago and had a great breakfast at CB. They had real Vermont syrup. God bless America. Scout "Michael" wrote in message ... You'll no doubt be happy to know I just drove through Lousiana, Alabama, Mississippi, Florida, Georgia and now S. Carolina with nary a single lynching. Although I would cheerfully nominate Perkins Restaurants for the dishonor and tie the know myself. ......of course there's still N.Carolina and Virginia yet to go ... M. "catherine haight" wrote in message ... When I was 10 (a million years ago) we drove to Florida in the days before e-ways and had car trouble in GA....we couldn't get anyone to fix the car until after the lynching...was the entertainment of the week....we were appalled....that was in 1962..... "DSK" wrote in message ... oh yeah: we don't lynch people here. Scott Vernon wrote: hah, but the cops stick night sticks up your ass for the fun of it. I don't see any fun in that. Makes beer and squirty cheese seem high-brow by comparison. DSK |
On Sat, 21 Aug 2004 10:54:51 GMT, "Scout"
wrote this crap: I have to go with Cracker Barrel when I'm down South. We were in South Carolina a few weeks ago and had a great breakfast at CB. They had real Vermont syrup. God bless America. Don't they have any Hooters there? Pathetic Earthlings! No one can save you now! |
I'd never been there before. I though it meant the waitresses wore the
barrels. Scout "Horvath" wrote in message ... On Sat, 21 Aug 2004 10:54:51 GMT, "Scout" wrote this crap: I have to go with Cracker Barrel when I'm down South. We were in South Carolina a few weeks ago and had a great breakfast at CB. They had real Vermont syrup. God bless America. Don't they have any Hooters there? Pathetic Earthlings! No one can save you now! |
"katysails" wrote in message | We tapped once...it is a lot of work and boiling the stuff down | without the equipment (a still type thing is a tedious process, and since | there is a sugar bush farm around the corner, I just buy it from them. Have you tried the freezing method of rendering the syrup?? Works like a charm and reduces the remaining stove time to a 1/4 of what it normally takes. It's just a matter of freezing the raw syrup and removing the ice. The syrup itself does not freeze as quickly so you reduce the water content by a major factor. The result is the same. CM |
in case you haven't noticed: hooters are everywhere.
of course, some are better than others. but they're all good. gf. "Horvath" wrote in message ... Don't they have any Hooters there? |
yes but do they serve squirty cheese?
gf. "Scout" wrote in message ... I have to go with Cracker Barrel when I'm down South. We were in South Carolina a few weeks ago and had a great breakfast at CB. They had real Vermont syrup. God bless America. Scout |
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