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Max wrote:
How about Clumber Spaniels or Bassett Hounds?

Drool and heavy vet expenses because of allergies and skin problems but both
sweet breeds...

Both are fairly sedentary
breeds, no?

true....lumbering oafy dogs...but cute

Some people in our subdivision have a PBGV (Petit Bassett Griffon
Vendean--spelling may be wrong) and it has to be the calmest dog I've ever
seen. Sits, comes when called, heels beautifully, and doesn't get his
hackles up when our poodle challenges it to play. Know anything about 'em?

Yep...the leading breeder in Michigan lives right behind us...they have
PBGV's and afghan hounds....the PBGV's are really cute but REALLY
expensive...REALLY as in a pet quality puppy is over 1K.....
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s/v Chanteuse
Kirie Elite 32
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"Women and cats will do as they please, and men and dogs should relax
and get used to the idea." - Robert A. Heinlein

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apologies for not getting back to your post
swamped with work

I understand the point about labs/retrievers
also understand the need to match the breed with a "lifestyle" so to speak.
akitas seem too demanding a breed and perhaps too agressive.

which brings me to the current possiblities:
sheperd is still on the list.
shetland is one i had not thought of.
and terriers are what my daughter is leaning towards, i don't know enough
yet to say either way.

--starting to get the picture of what to think about.

still the question if i can spare the time is primary and will not pursue
anything until i can answer this
work is in a state of transition and may make the reality of this more
attainable

your knowledge and insight is appreciated
thanks

gf.

"katysails" wrote in message
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protective
not small, not too big
good temperament around kids / visitors
lab
retriever
shepherd
akita
wolve

None of these, if you get a puppy...labs and retrievers need two years to
wind down and if there is going to be a lack of attention 50% of the time,
then they're out...the other three are not for people with limited dog
experience...they are smart breeds and if left to their own devise, become
assertive and dominant and you'll have problems. Corgis, Shetland
sheepdog,
some of the larger terrier breeds (not a Jack Russell, too labor intense)
would be better. They incorporate protectiveness and watchfulness with
loyalty and enough smarts to get by and be good pets. BTW, Akitas are
generally one-person dogs....and are quite a handful...any type of
domesticated wolf is a major problem...
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s/v Chanteuse
Kirie Elite 32
http://katysails.tripod.com

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You're way too serious Mr. Poodle.

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"Dave" wrote in message
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On Mon, 16 Aug 2004 10:31:00 -0700, "Jonathan Ganz"
said:

Then, of course, just before the collision if you insist that there
must be one, I would run below, disconnect the fuel line, and
claim that I tried to start the engine but it wouldn't happen,
so I tried everything in my power to avoid. The best defense
is a good offense.

You mean the best defense is a lie? Why am I not surprised.

Irish Wolfhound???? :-)

That's not a Dawg... this is a DOG!

CM

"gonefishiing" wrote in message
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| apologies for not getting back to your post
| swamped with work
|
| I understand the point about labs/retrievers
| also understand the need to match the breed with a "lifestyle" so to
speak.
| akitas seem too demanding a breed and perhaps too agressive.
|
| which brings me to the current possiblities:
| sheperd is still on the list.
| shetland is one i had not thought of.
| and terriers are what my daughter is leaning towards, i don't know enough
| yet to say either way.
|
| --starting to get the picture of what to think about.
|
| still the question if i can spare the time is primary and will not pursue
| anything until i can answer this
| work is in a state of transition and may make the reality of this more
| attainable
|
| your knowledge and insight is appreciated
| thanks
|
| gf.
|
|
|
|
|
|
| "katysails" wrote in message
| ...
|
| protective
| not small, not too big
| good temperament around kids / visitors
| lab
| retriever
| shepherd
| akita
| wolve
|
| None of these, if you get a puppy...labs and retrievers need two years
to
| wind down and if there is going to be a lack of attention 50% of the
time,
| then they're out...the other three are not for people with limited dog
| experience...they are smart breeds and if left to their own devise,
become
| assertive and dominant and you'll have problems. Corgis, Shetland
| sheepdog,
| some of the larger terrier breeds (not a Jack Russell, too labor
intense)
| would be better. They incorporate protectiveness and watchfulness with
| loyalty and enough smarts to get by and be good pets. BTW, Akitas are
| generally one-person dogs....and are quite a handful...any type of
| domesticated wolf is a major problem...
| --
| katysails
| s/v Chanteuse
| Kirie Elite 32
| http://katysails.tripod.com
|
| "Women and cats will do as they please, and men and dogs should relax
| and get used to the idea." - Robert A. Heinlein
|
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On Mon, 16 Aug 2004 21:16:29 -0300, "Capt. Mooron"
wrote this crap:

The idiot backs up to moor off.... what can you expect from this dunce....
at least he's got one brain cell... which is one more than Loco!

CM
|
| What to do differently? Hail them on the radio - that's what its for.
| You
| should at least have been monitoring 13 - they were probably talking
| about you.
|
|
| I think you mean channel 16.

Maintaining a Watch on Channel 16
All vessels must guard, maintain a watch on, and listen to Channel 16.

Channel 16 is a calling and emergency channel. DO NOT HAVE
CONVERSATIONS ON THIS CHANNEL. The only exception is the Coast Guard
when working a MAYDAY.

Channel 16 is very busy, so don't use it unless there is an emergency.
ALWAYS listen before you key your microphone. After you are sure
you're not going to "step" on anyone, you can make your call. Do not
blow into the mic., just make your call. Your initial call to a boat
cannot exceed 30 seconds.

http://www.sailnow.com/sail/vhf.html

Pathetic Earthlings! No one can save you now!

"katysails" wrote in message

Max wrote:

Some people in our subdivision have a PBGV (Petit Bassett Griffon
Vendean--spelling may be wrong) and it has to be the calmest dog I've ever
seen. Sits, comes when called, heels beautifully, and doesn't get his
hackles up when our poodle challenges it to play. Know anything about
'em?

Yep...the leading breeder in Michigan lives right behind us...they have
PBGV's and afghan hounds....the PBGV's are really cute but REALLY
expensive...REALLY as in a pet quality puppy is over 1K.....

Ouch. I know our neighbors paid about that for this dog, and they claim it
isn't a show-quality animal. What the hell, it's really a super dog. I
love it and would love to have one, but I'd rather have a new color graphic
GPS more.

Max

"Capt. Mooron" wrote in message

Irish Wolfhound???? :-)

That's not a Dawg... this is a DOG!

Amen. They eat about 50lbs. of dogfood per week and have an avg. life
expectancy of 6 years.

Max

Scotty,
generalization my ass
what the f@#k kind of comment is that?

haw bout this?
bring ya big truck up here
we take care of it fo ya.
just park it on the Cross Bronx, the LIE, the Major Deagan
**** i don't care park it anywhere ya want
just park that smelly cow hauling piece if junk
yeah come to ny--i don't need no italians to help me
i take care it myself.
i be there

right now i'm busy wit a nice white girl so don't bother me

i've lived and traveled in a lot of places in the world and it never ceases
to amaze me
that there are blind assholes waving american flags and they don't have a
clue what it means.

come to NYC, i'd like to meet an american redneck again.
just to ****ing show my friends that you really exist ya understand
sincerely
gf.

**** at least ganz is funny compared to this asshole.
and i have a funny feeling he won't show.

"Scott Vernon" wrote in message
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it's a generalization, but I've seen it happen all too often.
Are you Italian?

Scotty

So Horvath...what good would being on Channel 16 have done him? The
commercial traffic channel is 13...or maybe you think the CG was out there
with super cameras reporting freighter positions?

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katysails
s/v Chanteuse
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