"Scott Vernon" wrote in message
| Wha? Mr. 'I work in the field' has never seen a big stick crane.
| Look for a Manatowoc 4200 crawler crane.

Googled.. got zip.. I did get this.....
http://www.mammoet.com/plaatjes/pdf/7469%20Civil.pdf
Big Deal.... http://www.bucyrus.com/inthenews/world_coal-200404.pdf
I ran a crawler crane when we were setting manholes for the 96" main storm
in Ft Saskatchewan. Nothing the size of the 4200 though
I rent a 150 ton crane for haul out.... the reach requires the extra
capacity. It's a 6 ton boat.

I had a Hitachi EX200 on site the last 2 projects I supervised.
http://www.ransome-equip.com/availlongreach.html

Friggin' beaky truck drivers!

CM

"DSK" wrote in message

| It's pretty clear that you're not interested in facts, you're interested
| in arguing.

That's a ridiculous position to take considering what you presented as
counter points to date Doug

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| I'm checking out of this thread.

I've got news for you.... you can check out but you can never leave.

CM

"Capt. Mooron" wrote

"Scott Vernon" wrote in message
| Wha? Mr. 'I work in the field' has never seen a big stick crane.
| Look for a Manatowoc 4200 crawler crane.

Googled.. got zip.. I did get this.....
http://www.mammoet.com/plaatjes/pdf/7469%20Civil.pdf
Big Deal.... http://www.bucyrus.com/inthenews/world_coal-200404.pdf
I ran a crawler crane when we were setting manholes for the 96" main
storm
in Ft Saskatchewan. Nothing the size of the 4200 though


Then you know what I meant about a topping lift?



I had a Hitachi EX200 on site the last 2 projects I supervised.
http://www.ransome-equip.com/availlongreach.html

All I see on that site are a bunch of Long reach excavators, which BTW
have their rams attached to the boom at 25% the length. Didn't some
one here claim that this was impossible?

Scotty

"Scott Vernon" wrote in message
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| Did Doug claim otherwise? I didn't see it.

Yes it was the crux of the discussion.

CM

Nav wrote:
You may be confused. Perhaps you would like to re-read your earlier
post? I'll highlight it for you:


DSK wrote:
That's why triangular sections have the greatest rigidty for
their cross section area, and square sections are more rigid than
oval or round.


You did say most rigid didn't you? I'd say that rigid means best able to
resist bending -but perhaps you have some other use of the term? It's
strange but engineering texts say that the section that best resists
bending is an I or T section.


No, engineering texts say that "I" or "T" sections have the greatest
rigidity *in a defined plane*.

... But Doug is always right

Nope, I've been wrong several times. But this isn't one of them.

... so we must all be
wrong!

Who's "we" kimosabe?

BTW do you know what a cosine is? If you have the slightest clue about
any sort of engineering ... or even high school geometry... then my
diagram should be relatively easy to understand for you...

The compression force on the boom is the cosine of what angle?
What is that strange symbol on the mast represent? I believe earlier you
claimed the force on the mast had to be the exact same as the weight
suspended from the boom? Care to backpedal on that one, or don't you
understand what you yourself said?

DSK

"Scott Vernon" wrote in message

| All I see on that site are a bunch of Long reach excavators, which BTW
| have their rams attached to the boom at 25% the length. Didn't some
| one here claim that this was impossible?
|

I never claimed impossible..... but I may have utilized poetic license to
present an arguable counter-point.....
My point still being that a topping lift can carry a greater load than a
vang in lifting objects with a boom.

CM

"Capt. Mooron" wrote in message
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"Scott Vernon" wrote in message

| All I see on that site are a bunch of Long reach excavators, which
BTW
| have their rams attached to the boom at 25% the length. Didn't
some
| one here claim that this was impossible?
|

I never claimed impossible..... but I may have utilized poetic
license to
present an arguable counter-point.....


poetic license? is that a fancy way of back pedaling?


Scotty

"Scott Vernon" wrote in message

| poetic license? is that a fancy way of back pedaling?

Absolutely not..... I never backpedal going downhill.

CM

Speaking of downhill, I just finished up the paper work for the last
few weeks. Sent out almost $18k in bills. I think I can coast a little
now. Maybe take a few days off and go sailing. Sound good?

Scotty


"Capt. Mooron" wrote in message
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"Scott Vernon" wrote in message

| poetic license? is that a fancy way of back pedaling?

Absolutely not..... I never backpedal going downhill.

CM

Wish I could get time to take off myself.... I'm waiting to see if they go
ahead with a planned project for me to supervise. It's 2 months of 7/12s
but they have a strike to contend with.

CM




"Scott Vernon" wrote in message Maybe take a few
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