Strike? You have unions up there? Damn I hate unions!

Scotty


"Capt. Mooron" wrote in message
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Wish I could get time to take off myself.... I'm waiting to see if
they go
ahead with a planned project for me to supervise. It's 2 months of
7/12s
but they have a strike to contend with.

CM




"Scott Vernon" wrote in message Maybe take
a few
days off and go sailing. Sound good?
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| Scotty
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| "Capt. Mooron" wrote in message
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| "Scott Vernon" wrote in message
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| | poetic license? is that a fancy way of back pedaling?
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| Absolutely not..... I never backpedal going downhill.
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| CM
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that's what i'm looking for --thanks
although it sounds a higher than i would have suspected and i'll probably
use a more conservative number : something between a pipe section and a box.
if it looks like it approaches anything critical: i'll dig out the actual
moment of interia


gf.

"Nav" wrote in message
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You can use a simple rule of thumb. If you know the moment of intertia
for a box section of the same wall thickness and outside dimensions the
moment of inertial of the tube or ellipse that has the same dimension is
about 14% less.

Hope this gives you what you want.

Cheers

Yeah Unions..... I don't care either way but it's a pain in the ass at
times... like now. Interfering with my work.

CM

"Scott Vernon" wrote in message
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| Strike? You have unions up there? Damn I hate unions!
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| Scotty
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|
| "Capt. Mooron" wrote in message
| ...
| Wish I could get time to take off myself.... I'm waiting to see if
| they go
| ahead with a planned project for me to supervise. It's 2 months of
| 7/12s
| but they have a strike to contend with.
|
| CM
|
|
|
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| "Scott Vernon" wrote in message Maybe take
| a few
| days off and go sailing. Sound good?
| |
| | Scotty
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| |
| | "Capt. Mooron" wrote in message
| | ...
| |
| | "Scott Vernon" wrote in message
| |
| | | poetic license? is that a fancy way of back pedaling?
| |
| | Absolutely not..... I never backpedal going downhill.
| |
| | CM
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In other wo.....oops, just got the word, if I'm not in bed in 2
minutes there will be no sailing tomorrow. Nite all.

Scotty

"Capt. Mooron" wrote in message
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Yeah Unions..... I don't care either way but it's a pain in the ass
at
times... like now. Interfering with my work.

CM

"Scott Vernon" wrote in message
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| Strike? You have unions up there? Damn I hate unions!
|
| Scotty
|
|
| "Capt. Mooron" wrote in message
| ...
| Wish I could get time to take off myself.... I'm waiting to
see if
| they go
| ahead with a planned project for me to supervise. It's 2 months
of
| 7/12s
| but they have a strike to contend with.
|
| CM
|
|
|
|
| "Scott Vernon" wrote in message Maybe
take
| a few
| days off and go sailing. Sound good?
| |
| | Scotty
| |
| |
| | "Capt. Mooron" wrote in message
| | ...
| |
| | "Scott Vernon" wrote in message
| |
| | | poetic license? is that a fancy way of back pedaling?
| |
| | Absolutely not..... I never backpedal going downhill.
| |
| | CM
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He's checking out because he can't do a freshman free body :-P

Cheers

Capt. Mooron wrote:
"DSK" wrote in message

| It's pretty clear that you're not interested in facts, you're interested
| in arguing.

That's a ridiculous position to take considering what you presented as
counter points to date Doug

|
| I'm checking out of this thread.

I've got news for you.... you can check out but you can never leave.

CM

DSK wrote:



No, engineering texts say that "I" or "T" sections have the greatest
rigidity *in a defined plane*.

Yes that's what I said ealier! What is it with your inability to read?
Anyway, now you know a triangle section isn't _always_ the strongest for
a given amount of material. You must be so happy to have learnt
something new! Hooray!


... But Doug is always right


Nope, I've been wrong several times. But this isn't one of them.

... so we must all be wrong!


Who's "we" kimosabe?

BTW do you know what a cosine is? If you have the slightest clue about
any sort of engineering ... or even high school geometry... then my
diagram should be relatively easy to understand for you...

The compression force on the boom is the cosine of what angle?

No, no, you silly man you need to re-read your posts. It was _you_ who
keeps saying it's a cosine -not me! Are you now realizing that you were
wrong and it's not a cosine after all? You do know what a cosine is
don't you?

Cheers

It's their sophist behaviour that leads to such discussion. Except in
the case of DSK who really thinks most rigid vangs can act like powerful
crane booms. But then what should one expect from a concrete pad pouring
"engineer".

Cheers



Capt. Mooron wrote:

"Scott Vernon" wrote in message

| All I see on that site are a bunch of Long reach excavators, which BTW
| have their rams attached to the boom at 25% the length. Didn't some
| one here claim that this was impossible?
|

I never claimed impossible..... but I may have utilized poetic license to
present an arguable counter-point.....
My point still being that a topping lift can carry a greater load than a
vang in lifting objects with a boom.

CM

Well, compare the numbers for a pipe and box section and you will se my
14% rule of thumb...

Cheers

gonefishiing wrote:

that's what i'm looking for --thanks
although it sounds a higher than i would have suspected and i'll probably
use a more conservative number : something between a pipe section and a box.
if it looks like it approaches anything critical: i'll dig out the actual
moment of interia


gf.

"Nav" wrote in message
...

You can use a simple rule of thumb. If you know the moment of intertia
for a box section of the same wall thickness and outside dimensions the
moment of inertial of the tube or ellipse that has the same dimension is
about 14% less.

Hope this gives you what you want.

Cheers

Is it still safe to 'supervise' in Canada? Mr. Bush says it's better for the
little guy if you get paid 5/8's while working the 7/12's (as the word
'supervisor' is attached). What a bone head, what an enemy of the working
man..
Scout

"Capt. Mooron" wrote in message
...
Wish I could get time to take off myself.... I'm waiting to see if they
go
ahead with a planned project for me to supervise. It's 2 months of 7/12s
but they have a strike to contend with.

CM




"Scott Vernon" wrote in message Maybe take a few
days off and go sailing. Sound good?
|
| Scotty
|
|
| "Capt. Mooron" wrote in message
| ...
|
| "Scott Vernon" wrote in message
|
| | poetic license? is that a fancy way of back pedaling?
|
| Absolutely not..... I never backpedal going downhill.
|
| CM
|
|
|
|
|
|

Mr. Henley?

"Capt. Mooron" wrote
..... you can check out but you can never leave.

CM