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You know nothing about SCR if you think a fetus is
used for them. It's right-wing propoganda. Even
Nancy Reagan knows better, and that's not saying
much.

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Joe wrote:
So Mooron, where do you think they get stem cells from?
Bob has been a ardent supporter of SCR.

And what is stepping over the boundry of good taste and sound
judgement? Just how young should a embyro be to rip it from the womb
and take the stem cells for your own purpose, or money?


Now this is funny....

Did I step over the line because I suggested he use his own, instead
of someone elses? Help me out here, I hate to be politically incorrect
or rude.


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(Jonathan Ganz) wrote in message ...
You know nothing about SCR if you think a fetus is
used for them. It's right-wing propoganda. Even
Nancy Reagan knows better, and that's not saying
much.


Jon,

The stem cell is the origin of life. At stated first by the great
pathologist Rudolph Virchow, "All cells come from cells." The ultimate
stem cell, the fertilized egg, is formed from fusion of the haploid
progeny of germinal stem cells. The fertilized egg is totipotent; from
it forms all the tissues of the developing embryo. During development
of the embryo, germinal stem cells are formed, which persist in the
adult to allow the cycle of life to continue. In the adult, tissue is
renewed by proliferation of specialized stem cells, which divide to
form one cell that remains a stem cell and another cell that begins
the process of differentiation to the specialized function of a mature
cell type. Normal tissue renewal is accomplished by the
differentiating progeny of the stem cells, the so-called
transit-amplifying cells. For example, blood cells are mature cells
derived from hematopoietic stem cells in the bone marrow; the lining
cells of the gastrointestinal tract are formed from transit-amplifying
cells, progeny of stem cells in the base of intestinal glands.

So tell us Jonathan... you know it all, just where do think most stem
cells used in research come from? Where is the source of the best stem
cells?



In article ,
Joe wrote:
So Mooron, where do you think they get stem cells from?
Bob has been a ardent supporter of SCR.

And what is stepping over the boundry of good taste and sound
judgement? Just how young should a embyro be to rip it from the womb
and take the stem cells for your own purpose, or money?


Now this is funny....

Did I step over the line because I suggested he use his own, instead
of someone elses? Help me out here, I hate to be politically incorrect
or rude.



I thought you would like that. But the fact is, even you were a
embyro-fetus-child-gay adult. One great source of stem cells comes
from cord blood btw, you know.... that thing your mother chewed off to
get away from you asap.

Im all for any research that will save lives, just as long as your
not making and taking lives to do it.

Joe


Jonathan

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Instead of me typing... why not read what Ron Reagan
said at the DNC. It's pretty simple and straightforward.

In article ,
Joe wrote:
So tell us Jonathan... you know it all, just where do think most stem
cells used in research come from? Where is the source of the best stem
cells?


http://www.nytimes.com/2004/07/27/po...5256&ei=5 070

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"Joe" wrote
The stem cell is the origin of life. .....


Yes! Absolutely! But they are NOT Human Beings.

.... where do think most stem cells used in research come from?


Currently, thanks to the village idiot and his imaginary friend, from some
22 cultures he chose for reasons no intellegent person can understand. That
is too few for reasonable genetic diversity and it effectively prevents the
research needed to develop cures for our most debilitating diseases.
Meanwhile, MDs are fertilizing 1000s of eggs in vitro so infertile couples
can have kids - a common procedure blessed by most cults. Once fertilized,
ONE of these "origins of life" is implanted and once ONE "takes" the rest
get flushed down a drain!! Why? Because "The Voices" told some idiot heard
said that using them to save lives is against their cult's beliefs.

Where is the source of the best stem cells?


From your own umbilical cord. They match your DNA so cells and organs grown
from them wouldn't be rejected. But you neglected to save those cells and
so did everybody else. So the next best way to get them is to inject your
DNA into an ova to get stem cells identical to those in your own body -
cells that can be used to repair YOU. But 'the voices' Bush obeys say YOU
must suffer horrible disease and die rather repair yourself .....

For example, I have diabetes. It costs $$$ to control and will eventually
kill me. The technology exists to take a few of my skin cells, extract my
DNA, inject it into an ova, and when enough stem cells develop, inject them
into my pancreas to CURE my diabetes. But that simple, safe procedure is not
FDA approved and scientists cannot conduct the studies needed to get it
approved because "the voices" told a village idiot that a lump of stem cells
is the same as a human being.

The First Amendment forbids the government to establish any religion, but GW
Bush is assuring our early deaths by imposing his idiotic religious notions
on medical researchers. That's why I'd rather write in Jessie Jackson, or
you, than vote Republican again.


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That's why I'd rather write in Jessie Jackson, or
you, than vote Republican again.


Excuse me...BUT MANY republicans are supporting stem cell research and fighting
Bush on this. In every respect Bush is wrong and the results of his religious
based ignorance goes well beyond being simply evil.

Robert B
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NY


 
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