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![]() The second time he explained to the security staff about her condition... they ignored him and filed charges.. having her arrested. That's absolutely ridiculous, I agree. He should have called the media right there and then....immediacy sometimes works best....why they are pursuing it is a wonder to me....surely they must know that public sentiment is going to slay them? -- katysails s/v Chanteuse Kirie Elite 32 http://katysails.tripod.com "Women and cats will do as they please, and men and dogs should relax and get used to the idea." - Robert A. Heinlein --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.726 / Virus Database: 481 - Release Date: 7/22/2004 |
#2
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![]() "katysails" wrote in message | That's absolutely ridiculous, I agree. He should have called the media | right there and then....immediacy sometimes works best....why they are | pursuing it is a wonder to me....surely they must know that public sentiment | is going to slay them? H-m-m-m... Odd you should say that since following your pretentious Christian values it should be her son that is burned at the stake. So when my dad screws up and does odd things like leaving the fridge open, the phone off the hook and leaving the garden hose running it's a sign I should have him removed from his family and placed with strangers to dose him with narcotics and possibly abuse him while we contently go on with our lives like he never existed... only to murmur some kind words at his funeral? What a shallow and superficial position.... no doubt based on your profession. I hope this is exactly what you face in your future Katy..... because I've visited my friend's parents in those "homes"... and it seems they get more visits from me, than their own children. I have several friends who work at such institutions...... and collectively to a woman.... none would send their parents there.That to me speaks volumes since 3 of the places are supposedly quite posh..... the clients are miserable and lonely. My parents won't be sent to a home.... they'll end their days with family... we'll see to that. I'll rise to my responsibilities with honour. I'm certain looking after your MIL would have gotten in the way of your gardening and sailing wouldn't it? What a pathetic and easy method to slough off your responsibilities. It's not for their best interest... not in a long shot. I'm disappointed with you Katy... I imagined you capable of more depth and less self interest. Nursing Homes... pah! Another method for the rich and shallow to buy their way out of their responsibilities. Cha-Ching... CM |
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Mooron,
Ad hominem attacks about my religious beliefs (which, BTW, I don't foist upon people) and my work environment are nothing but that...personal attacks. I did not attack you about this situation. You openly speak of what kind of care giver you are and I commend you for it. You have also over the past two years tracked your Dad's health and have been on top of it and noticed the changes...and yet, you've been working and sailing and having a life. So why can you do that and this other guy can't? He was negligent and unobservant and I have no pity for him in this situation, on;y for his poor mother...and BTW, I have all along agreed that the store is very wrong.... -- katysails s/v Chanteuse Kirie Elite 32 http://katysails.tripod.com "Women and cats will do as they please, and men and dogs should relax and get used to the idea." - Robert A. Heinlein --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.726 / Virus Database: 481 - Release Date: 7/22/2004 |
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That may well be Katy.... but I can't really see how you can stand judgment
on someone when they are trying... and it is a trial & error situation for us all!! My Dad always told me that the only people who don't screw up are the ones not doing anything! As far as the Lady's Son is concerned... he's devastated... he's now more aware... he's learned from this but that will not mitigate the damage nor the results. Zellers is proceeding with the case in court. I get pretty riled up when I see Bully picking on someone weaker.... the last thing I want to hear is someone telling me it was the victim's fault because they shouldn't have ventured there. In your case it's blame for the son who shouldn't have let her wander there. I don't see it that way.... and it irks me to no end that you would. We are all due basic common respect. Now ... I've worked a nine hour day.. was up at 0530 hrs to complete the chores prior to driving the hour to town and came back to find my Dad had taken full advantage that Mom had to go for Physiotherapy, [I picked her up after my brother dropped her off]... left the garden hose on and flooded the tomatoes, removed the phone from the hook and no calls came through.... but not before he buttered and jellied an entire loaf of bread into neat little sandwiches... placing each one in a line... he still does not know why. Yeah... we left him at home alone.... I guess I must be an asshole as well. Odd... but I wouldn't trade the aggravation for all the tea in china. Regarding my rash words.... In retrospect ... you are correct... and I apologize for my statement regarding your religious beliefs... it was uncalled for and unwarranted. That said.... I'm left sorely disappointed in your judgment on this matter and it's more than obvious we shall remain miles apart on this topic. CM "katysails" wrote in message ... | Mooron, | Ad hominem attacks about my religious beliefs (which, BTW, I don't foist | upon people) and my work environment are nothing but that...personal | attacks. I did not attack you about this situation. You openly speak of | what kind of care giver you are and I commend you for it. You have also | over the past two years tracked your Dad's health and have been on top of it | and noticed the changes...and yet, you've been working and sailing and | having a life. So why can you do that and this other guy can't? He was | negligent and unobservant and I have no pity for him in this situation, on;y | for his poor mother...and BTW, I have all along agreed that the store is | very wrong.... | | -- | katysails | s/v Chanteuse | Kirie Elite 32 | http://katysails.tripod.com | | "Women and cats will do as they please, and men and dogs should relax | and get used to the idea." - Robert A. Heinlein | | | | --- | Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. | Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). | Version: 6.0.726 / Virus Database: 481 - Release Date: 7/22/2004 | | |
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![]() I'm left sorely disappointed in your judgment on this matter and it's more than obvious we shall remain miles apart on this topic. I'll tell you why I feel as I do...I deal with people in these situations every day...I'm glad the guy has learned something before it was too late...we have had people come through ours doors that were nigh unto death from unconscious neglect because people just aren't aware....we have had family members who have had their parents literally taken away by the court system because they tried to do it at home and ended up making their parent a drug addict because they couldn't handle the situation. Want to know what the leading problem is with home care for the elderly? Family abuse. People don't mean to retaliate...they just don't have the eloping mechanisms to be able to handle the stress of dementia and Alzheimer's and they don't know where or when to go for help. Or they are too proud to go for help because after all, they can handle it. I sit on the other end of the picture. I've seen the wife who, angered by the fact that her husband is no longer who he used to be, tried to slowly poison him to death. We've had the families that believe it is better to let a diabetic member drink themselves to death at home then to try to wean them from alcohol and possibly save a portion of what's left of their lives. We actually have people who sneak in medications they think their parents should have, administer them secretly, and then when the medications react with what the doctor's prescribe, all hell breaks loose...we had one guy who would wheel his wife off the property to give her narcotics...we caught him and he now no longer has any type of visiting privileges without another family member and a staff member present. You do not see the whole picture. You are seeing only one little part of the picture. When you see the abuse that goes on, just as bad as child abuse, then maybe you too would change your tune. -- katysails s/v Chanteuse Kirie Elite 32 http://katysails.tripod.com "Women and cats will do as they please, and men and dogs should relax and get used to the idea." - Robert A. Heinlein --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.726 / Virus Database: 481 - Release Date: 7/22/2004 |
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My Dad is 87 and he still does his paper route that I got for him 3
years ago. Darned if he's gonna squander away my inheritance. -- Scott Vernon Plowville Pa _/)__/)_/)_ |
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![]() "Scott Vernon" wrote in message My Dad is 87 and he still does his paper route that I got for him 3 years ago. Darned if he's gonna squander away my inheritance. Gee, Scoot, a well-placed Rottweiler might come in handy . . . Max :-) |
#8
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![]() "katysails" wrote in message | I'll tell you why I feel as I do...I deal with people in these situations You do not see the whole picture. You are | seeing only one little part of the picture. When you see the abuse that | goes on, just as bad as child abuse, then maybe you too would change your | tune. The Road to Hell is Paved with Good Intentions...... I've heard it before! There are many failures by many people with honourable intentions.... don't label those with these intentions as "assholes".... it's not fair and not fitting. You convieniently fail to mention the many cases of abuse by staff of the "nursing homes" to which some family friends have been subjected to. It's not always the family that is incapable and inconsiderate of the needs of their elders. Yes it's overwhelming at times ... and yes it requires a doubling of the workload at times. I agree not everyone has the ability to take on such responsibility... but valiant effort should be guided.. not punished. This is where the whole situation lacks cohesion..... if care is to be learned then maybe we should teach and not accuse. No... I wouldn't change my tune. I have nobody to look after me in my old age. No children, no wife.... and siblings that will have their own problems. I'll not become a ward of the state. I'd sooner die through the failings of someone with "good intentions" .... but far better to be sailing longer than it's safe for me to handle a vessel. Too Proud to take charity and way too stubborn to cage! I have need for no one. I never have and never will...... others are not as fortunate. CM |
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Never say never CM. I learned my lesson regarding pride 15 years ago, when
I broke my back doing construction work. You know the old saying, the bigger they are, yadda yadda. Well it's true. People can claim whatever they like in this ng, but I'm telling you that I'm a guy who knows what it's like to walk the darkest city street and not be afraid. In my prime I was stronger, faster, and bigger than most people. Then I went down, and hard. When I couldn't walk (for 6 months), I learned humility. It's a good and important lesson. I've since regained much of my strength through hard physical effort, but I'll never again say that I don't need other people. You just don't know what the future holds. Scout "Capt. Mooron" wrote in message ... "katysails" wrote in message | I'll tell you why I feel as I do...I deal with people in these situations You do not see the whole picture. You are | seeing only one little part of the picture. When you see the abuse that | goes on, just as bad as child abuse, then maybe you too would change your | tune. The Road to Hell is Paved with Good Intentions...... I've heard it before! There are many failures by many people with honourable intentions.... don't label those with these intentions as "assholes".... it's not fair and not fitting. You convieniently fail to mention the many cases of abuse by staff of the "nursing homes" to which some family friends have been subjected to. It's not always the family that is incapable and inconsiderate of the needs of their elders. Yes it's overwhelming at times ... and yes it requires a doubling of the workload at times. I agree not everyone has the ability to take on such responsibility... but valiant effort should be guided.. not punished. This is where the whole situation lacks cohesion..... if care is to be learned then maybe we should teach and not accuse. No... I wouldn't change my tune. I have nobody to look after me in my old age. No children, no wife.... and siblings that will have their own problems. I'll not become a ward of the state. I'd sooner die through the failings of someone with "good intentions" ... but far better to be sailing longer than it's safe for me to handle a vessel. Too Proud to take charity and way too stubborn to cage! I have need for no one. I never have and never will...... others are not as fortunate. CM |