"Bart Senior" wrote in message
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Think about what has happened in Massachusetts.

It's the most liberal state in the Union. They've
destroyed the second amendment there. The
don't call it Taxachussets for nothing. Do we
want the US to be like that state? Heck no!

Hey Bart, your grasp of Massachusetts politics is about as poor as your
understanding of national politics. Massachusetts ranks 33rd in the nation in
terms of per capita taxes as a percentage of income.

Bart isn't too good with numbers or facts.

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"Jeff Morris" wrote in message
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"Bart Senior" wrote in message
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Think about what has happened in Massachusetts.

It's the most liberal state in the Union. They've
destroyed the second amendment there. The
don't call it Taxachussets for nothing. Do we
want the US to be like that state? Heck no!

Hey Bart, your grasp of Massachusetts politics is about as poor as your
understanding of national politics. Massachusetts ranks 33rd in the
nation in
terms of per capita taxes as a percentage of income.

Bart,

Felton's reply to all the BS you've been posting really deserves a reply
from you. Show the Satanic Liberals your rebuttals and the error of
their ways

Ole Thom

666 dude 666

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"Thom Stewart" wrote in message
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Bart,

Felton's reply to all the BS you've been posting really deserves a reply
from you. Show the Satanic Liberals your rebuttals and the error of
their ways

Ole Thom

On Sat, 7 Aug 2004 20:17:08 -0400, "Jeff Morris"
wrote this crap:

Hey Bart, your grasp of Massachusetts politics is about as poor as your
understanding of national politics. Massachusetts ranks 33rd in the nation in
terms of per capita taxes as a percentage of income.

Got any proof? or are you just ****ing off the high side?





Pathetic Earthlings! No one can save you now!

On Sat, 7 Aug 2004 21:19:24 -0700, "Jonathan Ganz"
wrote this crap:

666 dude 666


Is that now your middle name?





Pathetic Earthlings! No one can save you now!

Thom,

Kerry's record is clear. He is the most extreme
liberal in Congress, tied with several others for
that title.

If you want unbiased assessments, look at all
the special interest groups ratings on his voting
record. Kerry is rated 0 or 100 for most of them,
meaning he is at the extreme.

They are invaluable in showing where an incumbent
has stood on a series of votes in the past years.
Ratings by groups on all sides of an issue are listed.
When taken as a whole, these are compared, give
a balanced view of the candidate.

http://www.vote-smart.org/issue_rati...an_id=S0421103

Kerry won't make a stand. Here's more proof.

Senator John Forbes Kerry Democrat refused to take
the NPAT. He won't even discuss what he will support!

The National Political Awareness Test (NPAT) is a key
component of Project Vote Smart's Voter Self-Defense
system. It asks candidates one central question: "Are you
willing to demonstrate a good faith effort to provide voters
with your inclinations on the issues you will most likely face
on the citizen's behalf?" The NPAT is administered to all
candidates for presidential, congressional, gubernatorial,
and state legislative offices.

The National Political Awareness Test (NPAT) asks
candidates which items they will support if elected. It does
not ask them to indicate which items they will oppose.
Research of public polling data, shows voters are more
concerned with what candidates would support when
elected to office, not what they oppose.

Now Compare Kerry to Sen Liberman, who did take NPAT.

His voting record: show substantial variation and a more
moderate position.

Take the NPAT yourself and ask yourself why a politician
would not take it, unless he wants to mislead the public.

http://www.vote-smart.org/match_section.php
Chose congressional voting records and find who
matches your opinions.


"Thom Stewart" wrote

Nice try Bart,

I do think it would be nice to keep Conservative's view vs Liberal's
view on the front page for awhile.

Your comments are missing? Don't you have anything to say in rebuttal?

Ole Thom

Why would you even doubt that I have proof? Its only "conservatives" that make
up "facts."

http://taxpolicycenter.org/TaxFacts/...09&Topic2id=90



"Horvath" wrote in message
...
On Sat, 7 Aug 2004 20:17:08 -0400, "Jeff Morris"
wrote this crap:

Hey Bart, your grasp of Massachusetts politics is about as poor as your
understanding of national politics. Massachusetts ranks 33rd in the nation
in
terms of per capita taxes as a percentage of income.

Got any proof? or are you just ****ing off the high side?





Pathetic Earthlings! No one can save you now!

The fact that he has a consistent record on certain major issues doesn't make
him an extremist, it just makes him consistent.

If you want his rating based on his voting record, you should look at
http://www.voterpunch.org
Check "Select by Score" and search. You'll find Kerry rated just in the middle
of Democrats. His record is clearly not "extremist."

Of course, you're not interested in the truth, are you Bart?




"Bart Senior" wrote in message
. net...
Thom,

Kerry's record is clear. He is the most extreme
liberal in Congress, tied with several others for
that title.

If you want unbiased assessments, look at all
the special interest groups ratings on his voting
record. Kerry is rated 0 or 100 for most of them,
meaning he is at the extreme.

They are invaluable in showing where an incumbent
has stood on a series of votes in the past years.
Ratings by groups on all sides of an issue are listed.
When taken as a whole, these are compared, give
a balanced view of the candidate.

http://www.vote-smart.org/issue_rati...an_id=S0421103

Kerry won't make a stand. Here's more proof.

Senator John Forbes Kerry Democrat refused to take
the NPAT. He won't even discuss what he will support!

The National Political Awareness Test (NPAT) is a key
component of Project Vote Smart's Voter Self-Defense
system. It asks candidates one central question: "Are you
willing to demonstrate a good faith effort to provide voters
with your inclinations on the issues you will most likely face
on the citizen's behalf?" The NPAT is administered to all
candidates for presidential, congressional, gubernatorial,
and state legislative offices.

The National Political Awareness Test (NPAT) asks
candidates which items they will support if elected. It does
not ask them to indicate which items they will oppose.
Research of public polling data, shows voters are more
concerned with what candidates would support when
elected to office, not what they oppose.

Now Compare Kerry to Sen Liberman, who did take NPAT.

His voting record: show substantial variation and a more
moderate position.

Take the NPAT yourself and ask yourself why a politician
would not take it, unless he wants to mislead the public.

http://www.vote-smart.org/match_section.php
Chose congressional voting records and find who
matches your opinions.


"Thom Stewart" wrote

Nice try Bart,

I do think it would be nice to keep Conservative's view vs Liberal's
view on the front page for awhile.

Your comments are missing? Don't you have anything to say in rebuttal?

Ole Thom

He is right.

I was correct in that Massachussetts ranks 6th as
one of the worst states for high taxes per capita.

But there is more money in the state. If the higher
income leve is factored in Massachussetts rates much
better.

http://www.taxfoundation.org/staterankings.html

I also found out military retirement income is not
taxed in Massachusetts. Which was interesting.


"Horvath" wrote
On Sat, 7 Aug 2004 20:17:08 -0400, "Jeff Morris"
wrote this crap:

Hey Bart, your grasp of Massachusetts politics is about as poor as your
understanding of national politics. Massachusetts ranks 33rd in the
nation in
terms of per capita taxes as a percentage of income.

Got any proof? or are you just ****ing off the high side?