How about the LA Times, NY Times, Washington Post,
and any other newspaper you can think of.

Most news commentators present a liberal slant on TV,
with a few exceptions.

"Donal" wrote

"Bart Senior" wrote
Doug,

Think about the left wing agenda promoted by the media.
How can you complain about the right wing, when the left
virtually controls the media.


The only US media that we see over here is Fox and CNN. Neither seems to
be
very left wing.

"DSK" wrote

In other words, on this single issue, you feel that Bush is great and
Kerry is the "Spawn of Satan" in your words.

Yes. It is the most important issue for me. It is the basis of
liberty.

Perhaps you feel that religious freedom is over rated?

Actually I do--slightly. I'd put it second and the right to keep and
bear arms first.

pretty quickly when examined. Have you convinced anybody to join your
side?

Probably not. Have you? Probably not.

You are so incredibly naive...

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"Bart Senior" wrote in message
. net...
How about the LA Times, NY Times, Washington Post,
and any other newspaper you can think of.

Most news commentators present a liberal slant on TV,
with a few exceptions.

"Donal" wrote

"Bart Senior" wrote
Doug,

Think about the left wing agenda promoted by the media.
How can you complain about the right wing, when the left
virtually controls the media.


The only US media that we see over here is Fox and CNN. Neither seems
to
be
very left wing.

That's clearly what the right-wing wackos such as yourself
want. Thanks for admitting it.

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"Bart Senior" wrote in message
. net...
Maybe we should change the name to the
Divided States of America!

"Donal" wrote

"Bart Senior" wrote
...
No I think the average American is stupid, and the
proof is the number of liberals.

Well, you can thank your lucky stars that it doesn't require a majority
to
elect the President!

Is it ok if I do... hey Dave, you're an asshole. :-)

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"felton" wrote in message
...
On 6 Aug 2004 14:17:05 -0500, Dave wrote:

On Fri, 06 Aug 2004 17:50:16 GMT, felton said:

Here is a link that you might find helpful

http://ideamouth.com/respect.htm#Senate

Now there's a really reliable and unbiased source. A propaganda web site
authored by a "media specialist" at the "Arts Academy in the Woods."


Well, I could respond to your post in your traditional manner...don't
like the message, attack the messenger....but I won't. I guess it
would be too much to ask for you to actually refute any specifics, but
specifics don't really count for you guys anyway, do they?

Don't worry Dave, your painful and ultimately fruitless task of
defending this administration will soon be over. Then you guys will
experience a return to the Golden Age of Republican whining and
blaming, rather than defending. It is so much easier to hatch those
conspiracy theories than it is to weave together any plausible excuses
for this group.

I also look forward to those days. I'll probably remove the AM button
from my radio and program all my FM stations to either NPR or
Classical Perhaps I'll move to Vermont and drive a Hybrid car and
spend my days drinking French wines. Feel free to drop by..but call
first

On Fri, 6 Aug 2004 23:29:52 -0700, "Jonathan Ganz"
wrote:

Is it ok if I do... hey Dave, you're an asshole. :-)

Nah...Dave wasn't attacking me, he was just dismissing the
information, very *specific* information provided at that site with
his broad brush of "I'm not willing to accept anything that the RNC
doesn't tell me". As my father used to tell me, "it is one thing to
try and fool other people, but don't ever make the mistake of trying
to fool yourself."

Here is another good database of votig records, by issue.

http://www.voterpunch.org/

It is quite interesting, and, again, provides sufficient detail that
you can see where they arrive at their information, unlike the crap
that Loco posted. In this case, Kerry is ranked, overall, as the 24th
most "progressive", i.e. "liberal" member of the Senate, with Edwards
coming in at 33rd. Not exactly the 1st and 4th we've been hearing,
but I guess it depends on who does the scorekeeping. Besides, I have
never seen anything that supports those ranks other than some
Republican spinmeister spouting it on the talk shows, anyway.

Yeh, but he's still an asshole.

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"felton" wrote in message
...
On Fri, 6 Aug 2004 23:29:52 -0700, "Jonathan Ganz"
wrote:

Is it ok if I do... hey Dave, you're an asshole. :-)

Nah...Dave wasn't attacking me, he was just dismissing the
information, very *specific* information provided at that site with
his broad brush of "I'm not willing to accept anything that the RNC
doesn't tell me". As my father used to tell me, "it is one thing to
try and fool other people, but don't ever make the mistake of trying
to fool yourself."

Here is another good database of votig records, by issue.

http://www.voterpunch.org/

It is quite interesting, and, again, provides sufficient detail that
you can see where they arrive at their information, unlike the crap
that Loco posted. In this case, Kerry is ranked, overall, as the 24th
most "progressive", i.e. "liberal" member of the Senate, with Edwards
coming in at 33rd. Not exactly the 1st and 4th we've been hearing,
but I guess it depends on who does the scorekeeping. Besides, I have
never seen anything that supports those ranks other than some
Republican spinmeister spouting it on the talk shows, anyway.

Felton,

I do believed you've thumped the conservatives ACE!! They don't like
it! The Conservatives can't stand to defend specifics. Not the way you
presented them. Innuendoes are their ways.

It may slant to the left but you've left damn little wiggling room,
with your reply.

Well done!!

Ole Thom

Think about what has happened in Massachusetts.

It's the most liberal state in the Union. They've
destroyed the second amendment there. The
don't call it Taxachussets for nothing. Do we
want the US to be like that state? Heck no!

"felton" wrote
On Fri, 6 Aug 2004 23:29:52 -0700, "Jonathan Ganz"

Here is another good database of votig records, by issue.

http://www.voterpunch.org/

It is quite interesting, and, again, provides sufficient detail that
you can see where they arrive at their information, unlike the crap
that Loco posted. In this case, Kerry is ranked, overall, as the 24th
most "progressive", i.e. "liberal" member of the Senate, with Edwards
coming in at 33rd. Not exactly the 1st and 4th we've been hearing,
but I guess it depends on who does the scorekeeping. Besides, I have
never seen anything that supports those ranks other than some
Republican spinmeister spouting it on the talk shows, anyway.

Nice try Bart,

I do think it would be nice to keep Conservative's view vs Liberal's
view on the front page for awhile.

Your comments are missing? Don't you have anything to say in rebuttal?

Ole Thom