On Thu, 05 Aug 2004 02:14:27 GMT, felton wrote
this crap:

As I was reading one of these sites today, there was a quote from the
late Sen. Patrick Moynihan...

"Everybody is entitled to their own opinion, but not their own facts."

That is the glaring problem with the sort of simple minded crap that
you right wing kooks put forth. You are so afraid of opinions formed
on *actual* facts that you put forth this sort of silliness and claim
it to be factual.


Huh? That's the stupidest thing I ever heard. You are saying you
can't form opinions from the facts?

That is the looniest, cockamamie, left-wing, whacko **** I ever heard.
No wonder you left-wing whackos are losing.





Pathetic Earthlings! No one can save you now!

On Fri, 06 Aug 2004 08:17:26 -0400, Horvath
wrote:

On Thu, 05 Aug 2004 02:14:27 GMT, felton wrote
this crap:

As I was reading one of these sites today, there was a quote from the
late Sen. Patrick Moynihan...

"Everybody is entitled to their own opinion, but not their own facts."

That is the glaring problem with the sort of simple minded crap that
you right wing kooks put forth. You are so afraid of opinions formed
on *actual* facts that you put forth this sort of silliness and claim
it to be factual.


Huh? That's the stupidest thing I ever heard. You are saying you
can't form opinions from the facts?

No...it says you have to be honest with the facts and then you are
free to draw your own conclusions. Read it again and think about it.



That is the looniest, cockamamie, left-wing, whacko **** I ever heard.

That doesn't surprise me.

No wonder you left-wing whackos are losing.

We will see in November





Pathetic Earthlings! No one can save you now!

Left wing wacko's are not just losing, but losers.

A conservative is a liberal that has been mugged.

We are polarized because terrorist attacks increase
the number or conservatives willing to fight for what
they believe in, and increase the number of frightened
liberal sheepeople that hope to appease the bad guys.

"Horvath" wrote

Huh? That's the stupidest thing I ever heard. You are saying you
can't form opinions from the facts?

That is the looniest, cockamamie, left-wing, whacko **** I ever heard.
No wonder you left-wing whackos are losing.

Kerry is going to win.

A conservative is a liberal who hasn't lived.

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"j" ganz @@
www.sailnow.com

"Bart Senior" wrote in message
news
Left wing wacko's are not just losing, but losers.

A conservative is a liberal that has been mugged.

We are polarized because terrorist attacks increase
the number or conservatives willing to fight for what
they believe in, and increase the number of frightened
liberal sheepeople that hope to appease the bad guys.

"Horvath" wrote

Huh? That's the stupidest thing I ever heard. You are saying you
can't form opinions from the facts?

That is the looniest, cockamamie, left-wing, whacko **** I ever heard.
No wonder you left-wing whackos are losing.

Bart Senior wrote:
We are polarized because terrorist attacks

We are polarized because a few people (who might normally have better
sense) have been seduced by right wing hate radio into vocally
supporting fascism instead of democracy.

We are polarized because we have a President who announces that he is a
"uniter, not a divider" yet tramples Consitutional rights and all
disagreement with his pre-chosen agenda.

Rush Limbaugh and his ilk were preaching hatred against liberals long
before Sept 11th. They refused to acknowledge Clinton as their
President, as did you Bart; and they despise freedom and will extinguish
it if allowed to.

We are polarized because guys like you call guys like me traitors and
not only refuse to think better of it, but apparently feel no remorse.

DSK

PS here are two quotes that sum it up for you...

The trouble with the world is that the stupid are cocksure and the
intelligent are full of doubt
--Bertrand Russell

Once a government is committed to the principle of silencing the voice
of opposition, it has only one way to go, and that is down the path of
increasingly repressive measures, until it becomes a source of terror to
all its citizens and creates a country where everyone lives in fear
--Harry S. Truman

Doug,

Think about the left wing agenda promoted by the media.
How can you complain about the right wing, when the left
virtually controls the media.

I would have stayed out of this entire political discussion this
year if it were not for the constant stream of liberal extremism.
And, I've provided numerous examples of how liberal
extremism bashes America.

President Bush supports the Constitution and the 2nd
Amendment, while Kerry has trampled this whenever possible,
without exception. This is one of the most fundamental
rights listed only after freedom of religion and speech.

When it comes to name calling, and lying, the liberals
outdo the conservatives by a huge margin. They don't need
a shred of proof--the end justifies the means. Is that the
American way? Or a sign of desperation? Or of stupidity?

Limbaugh doesn't preach, he talks about the stupidity of
liberal extremism with humor.

The Democrats had a chance to chose a reasonable moderate,
with common sense, Sen. Lieberman. He is a man who doesn't
flip flop around and, has conviction and common sense. This
year extremism won, because Bush is basically a moderate
with conviction.

I support President Bush and feel he needs another term to
finish what he started. Kerry is a vacant empty man. The
only ones worse liberals are Kennedy and Dean.

It really is double or nothing this year.


"DSK" wrote

We are polarized because a few people (who might normally have better
sense) have been seduced by right wing hate radio into vocally
supporting fascism instead of democracy.

We are polarized because we have a President who announces that he is a
"uniter, not a divider" yet tramples Consitutional rights and all
disagreement with his pre-chosen agenda.

Rush Limbaugh and his ilk were preaching hatred against liberals long
before Sept 11th. They refused to acknowledge Clinton as their
President, as did you Bart; and they despise freedom and will extinguish
it if allowed to.

We are polarized because guys like you call guys like me traitors and
not only refuse to think better of it, but apparently feel no remorse.

DSK

PS here are two quotes that sum it up for you...

The trouble with the world is that the stupid are cocksure and the
intelligent are full of doubt
--Bertrand Russell

Once a government is committed to the principle of silencing the voice
of opposition, it has only one way to go, and that is down the path of
increasingly repressive measures, until it becomes a source of terror to
all its citizens and creates a country where everyone lives in fear
--Harry S. Truman

"Bart Senior" wrote in message
et...
Doug,

Think about the left wing agenda promoted by the media.
How can you complain about the right wing, when the left
virtually controls the media.


The only US media that we see over here is Fox and CNN. Neither seems to be
very left wing.





Regards


Donal
--

How about the LA Times, NY Times, Washington Post,
and any other newspaper you can think of.

Most news commentators present a liberal slant on TV,
with a few exceptions.

"Donal" wrote

"Bart Senior" wrote
Doug,

Think about the left wing agenda promoted by the media.
How can you complain about the right wing, when the left
virtually controls the media.


The only US media that we see over here is Fox and CNN. Neither seems to
be
very left wing.

You are so incredibly naive...

--
"j" ganz @@
www.sailnow.com

"Bart Senior" wrote in message
. net...
How about the LA Times, NY Times, Washington Post,
and any other newspaper you can think of.

Most news commentators present a liberal slant on TV,
with a few exceptions.

"Donal" wrote

"Bart Senior" wrote
Doug,

Think about the left wing agenda promoted by the media.
How can you complain about the right wing, when the left
virtually controls the media.


The only US media that we see over here is Fox and CNN. Neither seems
to
be
very left wing.

Bart Senior wrote:
Doug,

Think about the left wing agenda promoted by the media.

Why?

How can you complain about the right wing, when the left
virtually controls the media.

If that were true, there would be no Fox News, no Rush Limbaugh, etc
etc. Actually the right controls more of the media than the left, look
at who was lobbying the FCC recently to change the rules about ownership
limits.


I would have stayed out of this entire political discussion this
year if it were not for the constant stream of liberal extremism.
And, I've provided numerous examples of how liberal
extremism bashes America.

President Bush supports the Constitution

Sorry, locking up citizens without trial and keeping *everything* the
gov't does as secret as possible, and spending money not authorized by
Congress, is not "supporting the Constitution" in my book. In fact he
wants to amend the Constitution to meddle in citizen's private affairs,
or at least he says he does.


... while Kerry has trampled this (2nd Amendm't) whenever possible,
without exception.

In other words, on this single issue, you feel that Bush is great and
Kerry is the "Spawn of Satan" in your words.


... This is one of the most fundamental
rights listed only after freedom of religion and speech.



Perhaps you feel that religious freedom is over rated?

Bush has taken *my* tax money and used it to support churches I don't
believe in. Perhaps you feel that Bush was appointed by God to rule over
us? Some people do, and they are usually pretty vocal about it. Perhaps
you feel that people who disagree with you should not only be killed,
but cast into a pit of fire?

As for freedom of speech, it seems to me that you are against it. For
speaking the way I do, you called me a traitor.

I have pointed to very sound reasons why I hold the opinions I do. You
have posted a LOT of right-wing propaganda, most of which falls apart
pretty quickly when examined. Have you convinced anybody to join your side?

DSK