Poodles are the second smartest breed of dog after the border collie....you
probably thought you were insulting him when in actuality you were calling
him a genius by doggie standards....now get back to your catnip and
yarn...meow....

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I know, I figured he deserves to be a genius in at least one category.

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Poodles are the second smartest breed of dog after the border
collie....you
probably thought you were insulting him when in actuality you were calling
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yarn...meow....

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Katy,

You are passing an awful lot of Breeds with one brush stoke.

Terriers, Hounds, Bassets, are just a few I'd rate with the poodle. Rate
them over Poodles. You have to consider what they have been bred for

Just my comments. Don't want to get into an other OT discussion.

Ole Thom

Terriers, Hounds, Bassets, are just a few I'd rate with the poodle. Rate
them over Poodles. You have to consider what they have been bred for

The problem is, Thom, that you are looking at specific members of breeds you
have known...yes, there are exceptional qualities to each breed, but when
the industry and science look at the breeds of dogs over the world, the
results are that border collies are number 1 and standard poodles are number
two in the rankings...as a breed whole....I've seen several jack Russell's
that think their owners under the table all the time, but then again, I have
seen several that are dumber than a box of rocks...in general, according to
the experts, hounds do not fit the category of "smart"...they perform their
personal functions as dogs very well,, they track...but have you ever tried
to teach an afghan hound anything beyond coursing? They are, as a breed
whole, lovable but stupid. (Now all the afghan hound people are going to
come out and slay me...go look up the statistics people)
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Katy,

I'm not putting Poodles down. They are smart, lovable companion but they
have their slow witted member also.

The two dumbest dogs I've ever seen were a matched pair of Std Poodles.
They also were probably the most loveable two dogs I've ever seen.

I was only in my teens and working in kennels. It was an awful time for
dogs. The early days of WW2. Their masters were be Drafted and the dog
people were going crazy finding homes for them. Std sized Poodles were a
problem due to size. These two lived with me for close to a year before
I found a home for them. Loveable they were but smart they were not.

Now, I'll have to ask this question again.
How do you give a dog an IQ test? What are the standards that are used?

I'm sorry about getting into another Off Topic discussion but Dogs are
very close to Sailing with me. They certainly rate better than politics

Ole Thom

The two dumbest dogs I've ever seen were a matched pair of Std Poodles.

Like I said...you are referring to individuals and not to the
breed...overall the breed is rated as number 2 by experts in the dog
world...

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How do you give a dog an IQ test? What are the standards that are used?

The "Bible" of the dog world on this subject is:
_The Intelligence of Dogs: Canine Consciousness and Capabilities_ by Stanley
Coren, a psychologist. It is not a dry treatise on the subject, but is
insightful.
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A friend of mine had a dog, which I believe was some
kind of terrier... it had some brain surgery, and
when they got done, it looked like a punk rocker
with spiked hair. It was pretty dumb to begin
with, hense the name Bongo, but after, the only
way you could tell it recognized you was when
it blinked. That was one strange dog. Someone
finally ran it over in driveway. Too stupid to get
out of the way when the car started... liked to
sleep next to the back tire.


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Our Rhodesian Ridgeback would make mincemeat out of your little gay poodle!

6 months old and 60 lbs... taller than a Lab!
A Lion Hunter by Trade!
Her bark scares the skin off most people!

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Oh Yea! A pooch like Katy's killed an enormous 200 pound Rotty here the
other day! Got caught in the rotty's throat going down and choked him to
death! (c:

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Our Rhodesian Ridgeback would make mincemeat out of your little gay
poodle!

6 months old and 60 lbs... taller than a Lab!
A Lion Hunter by Trade!
Her bark scares the skin off most people!